AMD Hawaii 390X Has Serious GPU Power!

[PEB]

OK boarding the hype train but in the end I will likely buy an Nvidia board just because I do more an more open source graphic work and Nvidia is way ahead. That being said the new AMD 390X performance from a number of posts from game developers who got their hands on it first is nothing short of insane. The bench marks posted about it where not very good likely based on very early drivers even so it tops Nvidia Titan X.

What game developers are saying its a beast performance wise. Even with witchers 3 hair problems aside the new board completely rewrites the performance rules. The other nice thing is due to its design it uses a smaller form factor. The design right now is limited to 4 gigs video ram HBM but this ram is way way faster then GDDR5 "9X".

HBM is a 3D stacked ram array that right now is limited to 4 gigs of video ram. Future could feature 8 gigs or more HBM ram. The reason for the limit is because the ram is embedded with the GPU sharing the same space.

I only wish I was able to get the same level or support on my open source stuff because AMD has a winner on their hands. The other worry I have is driver stability problems that concerns me because of AMD health as a business.

http://wccftech.com/amd-20nm-r9-390x-feautres-20nm-hbm-9x-faster-than-gddr5/

This is supposedly the board look.

 

[Cygnus A]

Sources and benchmarks? I've been looking forward to this information and hope the 390x will bring 4K gaming into reality. The only benches I found were leaked from months ago and confirmed to be fake

 

[Brampton_Boy]

I just want to be able to buy it. There is a whole bunch of speculation, but no hard launch.

Also, if this comes in at Titan X prices (like some are saying), I will keep my wallet safely in my pants.

 

[Vis]

Sources and benchmarks? I've been looking forward to this information and hope the 390x will bring 4K gaming into reality. The only benches I found were leaked from months ago and confirmed to be fake

There still isn't any. WCCF Tech is essentially known as the main rumor and fake information spreader when it comes to PC hardware. AMD released a 7 second teaser today and nothing else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5bVoIQrH7g

Regardless, with my experience owning a 290 I'm not touching another AMD card any time soon. Their theoretical performance may be great, but games continue to be far more optimized for Nvidia and drivers are still trash on AMD. AMD can blame it on the developers and Nvidia all they want, but that's not going to magically make their cards perform better in game. The 390X is also rumored to be just as expensive or nearly as a Titan X ($1000).

This article is also 9 months old for anyone who didn't notice.

 

[Zuni]

From what I've been reading, it seems like the 390x will have GDDR5 memory. When the Fiji cards come out, they will have HBM.

The Fiji cards are going to be released under a separate name, much like Nvidia does with the 980 and Titan.

 

[GhostZ06]

I just want to be able to buy it. There is a whole bunch of speculation, but no hard launch.

Also, if this comes in at Titan X prices (like some are saying), I will keep my wallet safely in my pants.

this, im very much hovering over a dual 390x crossfire build

 

[Plissken]

From what I've been reading, it seems like the 390x will have GDDR5 memory. When the Fiji cards come out, they will have HBM.

The Fiji cards are going to be released under a separate name, much like Nvidia does with the 980 and Titan.

No, you're thinking of the 380x which was rumored in a forum to be an upgraded 285 with more RAM.

 

[GhostZ06]

No, you're thinking of the 380x which was rumored in a forum to be an upgraded 285 with more RAM.

plissken your rocking x2 290x

 

[Plissken]

Yes, my downstairs PC has two 290x's (and a 3770K cpu with 14GB of RAM, two solid state drives and two 2TB drives, so the cards get plenty of help), but plenty of ventilation and cooling fortunately. I keep my fans at 45% load most of the time. With one 290x I could run games at ultra 1080p 60fps or even higher resolutions (down-converted with the virtual super resolution feature), with two i can do max resolution down-converted. The heat problem has gotten better with the newer drivers.

I want to upgrade one PC, but the one I'm upgrading is hooked up to two crt's (one an expensive production/broadcast monitor). The 300 series mockup had only displayport out ports on it, and displayport to analog conversion is inferior to just going straight analog through dual link DVI-I, both in terms of picture quality and not allowing me to screw with the pixel settings via a program called Powerstrip. The NVidia cards still have dual link DVI-I ports, but out of the the ATI R9's that weren't upgraded 7000 series cards (the 290,290x, 295x, and 285), only the 2GB 285 had a dual link DVI-I port. So I'm really looking closely at NVidia and what ATI/AMD will be offering with the 300 series. I watch most of my blu-rays on this setup and AMD in the past had better video quality (and I take my a/v quality seriously with that sort of thing), but I have no clue how close they are with the settings that I like (all post processing like edge enhancement and noise reduction off, gamma set to crt gamma, etc.). I also don't know which would work better with video editing and such programs if I want the card to work with my CPU if the program allows it.

 

[Winston Wolf]

I'm done with AMD. When I got my 7950 from Gigabyte I fell in love with it. Great value, able to run everything on ultra at the time while maintaining a solid 60fps. But AMD is a joke when it comes to drivers and it just seems to be getting worse lately.

Also the fact that most game developers favor nVidia tech these days doesn't help.

This sucks because this is a market that desperately needs serious competition.

Considering getting a couple of 970s now, they're pretty cheap at the moment.

 

[Cygnus A]

I'm done with AMD. When I got my 7950 from Gigabyte I fell in love with it. Great value, able to run everything on ultra at the time while maintaining a solid 60fps. But AMD is a joke when it comes to drivers and it just seems to be getting worse lately.

Also the fact that most game developers favor nVidia tech these days doesn't help.

This sucks because this is a market that desperately needs serious competition.

Considering getting a couple of 970s now, they're pretty cheap at the moment.

I feel the same way, BUT I am going to wait this one out and see what AMD brings to the table. It seems they are aware of their issues and the CEO even commented about software being a new priority.

If we all bail on AMD, we are handing NVIDIA a monopoly. I have been AMD exclusive for over a decade, but have grown frustrated recently by all the games that "run better on NVIDIA".

 

[PEB]

I feel the same way, BUT I am going to wait this one out and see what AMD brings to the table. It seems they are aware of their issues and the CEO even commented about software being a new priority.

If we all bail on AMD, we are handing NVIDIA a monopoly. I have been AMD exclusive for over a decade, but have grown frustrated recently by all the games that "run better on NVIDIA".

Agree especially over the new Nvidia GPU's seem to knock it out of the park. The one thing small that bothers me about Nvidia is their GPU's a tweaked to run single precision floating point crazy fast but double precision runs like a turd. They are slowly making their low end GPU's gaming only cards and for modeling and high precision stuff spend big bucks on their high end cards. The last decent double precision card that Nvidia made was Titan Black the new card is like 4 times slower double precision but nearly twice as fast single the Titan X.

 

[markulous]

I'm done with AMD. When I got my 7950 from Gigabyte I fell in love with it. Great value, able to run everything on ultra at the time while maintaining a solid 60fps. But AMD is a joke when it comes to drivers and it just seems to be getting worse lately.

Also the fact that most game developers favor nVidia tech these days doesn't help.

This sucks because this is a market that desperately needs serious competition.

Considering getting a couple of 970s now, they're pretty cheap at the moment.

I have to agree. I'm still rocking 6850s in crossfire, but the drivers have been horrid. I know those cards are dated but that's no reason for their new and current software to be garbage. Next video card is going to be nVidia for sure.

 

[CPA]

See, I have been Nvidia for a long time, and I've even had a pile of issues with their drivers. I have used and SLI setup for years now, and it can be finicky. If the AMD drivers are even worse, I can't imagine buying one of their GPUs regardless of it's extra power.

 

[GhostZ06]

I feel the same way, BUT I am going to wait this one out and see what AMD brings to the table. It seems they are aware of their issues and the CEO even commented about software being a new priority.

If we all bail on AMD, we are handing NVIDIA a monopoly. I have been AMD exclusive for over a decade, but have grown frustrated recently by all the games that "run better on NVIDIA".

This


im sticking with amd, Sick of Nvida doing douche things, though i might change my processor to intel

 

[Winston Wolf]

See, I have been Nvidia for a long time, and I've even had a pile of issues with their drivers. I have used and SLI setup for years now, and it can be finicky. If the AMD drivers are even worse, I can't imagine buying one of their GPUs regardless of it's extra power.

Well, nVidia certainly isn't perfect. Prior to my 7950, I was always Team Green, going back to my GeForce 2 MX200 and ending on a GeForce 9800GTX+. But somewhere along the lifespan of the latter, nVidia did something horribly wrong that absolutely ruined Souce engine games for me. That card also ran as hot as a volcano.

But you can't imagine how frustrating it is now to boot a game, see nVidia's big logo (I GET IT, IT'S THE FUCKING WAY IT'S MEANT TO BE PLAYED!!!) and hear a lot of complaints similar to mine that the game in question does not run well on AMD hardware. Project CARS and The Witcher 3 are good recent examples. I'm sure it will be no different with Arkham Knight.

 

[Gref]

The Zen processors and HBM GPUs look promising but I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for them to drop.

 

[Zuni]

No, you're thinking of the 380x which was rumored in a forum to be an upgraded 285 with more RAM.

I read that it was confirmed by AMD that all of the 3xx boards are going to be based on Hawaii, Tonga and Pitcairn, not Fiji. If that's the case, it's not possible to have HBM on the chips. They are supposed to release the first Fiji card after the 3xx ones. The source could have been mistaken of course though.

 

[Cygnus A]

The leaked pics show a card that is too small to not be using HBM.

 

[Plissken]

The Catalyst Omega drivers run pretty well in my experience. I've only had one game that ran poorly (Gas Guzzlers).