amazing how effective UFC PR is (Khamzat)

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Those of us who know anything about fighting saw it. You literally couldn't make it any more clear if you tried. I had Khamzat in my sig before he joined UFC because I saw it.

1. He annihilated his UFC debut opponent taking 1 strike.
2. Then he annihilated his 2nd opponent 10 days later taking no strike / cutting another 15 pounds.
3. Then he annihilated his 3rd opponent shortly after taking no strike.
4. Then COVID happened/he didn't get to fight Leon Edwards which was the plan.
5. Then he annihilated Li Jinglang (ranked at bottom of top 10 at the time) after taking no strike.
6. Then he won a FOTY candidate vs the #2 ranked WW of Earth / Gilbert. I was at the fight. You should have heard the place. It absolutely exploded for Khamzat when he walked out, far more than the title fight which occurred later on the same card.

BUT THEN...
7. Then UFC PR blamed him for them fixing the event of UFC 271 in the most obviously doctored PR job in UFC history. The fans and media very publicly turned on the match (Khamzat executing Nate) and lambasted the UFC for the match in the media / made Nate into a hero. Then mysteriously a UFC "doctor" told Khamzat to rehydrate/he weighed 8 pounds above/everyone on all of Sherdog dropped 50 IQ points and acted like it was a weight miss instead of how literally everyone on the roster would weigh after rehydrating. Tony, who never competed at 170 for many years, prior to the "weight miss" was magically competing at 170 (and never has since). Kevin, who never weighed 180 in his life, was magically set for a 180 catchweight before Khamzat "missed weight." His opponent, Rodriguez maintained 180 while Li, the guy with the least marketing power among the fighters, was the only one forced to fight the larger opponent. Did anyone ever find footage of the "biggest brawl" in UFC history by the way? The one that involved 20+ pro fighters and didn't result in a single scratch or injury to any of them? The one that was used to justify canceling the Nate/Khamzat fight to promote the Khamzat/Kevin fight? The one that 10 cell phone cameras and UFC camera crews caught the "beginning" of when people yelled at one another but which all magically stopped functioning once the "brawl" started? Anyway... this PR did it. The public HATED Khamzat for YEARS after this RIDICULOUS con job of an event. After that...

8. Khamzat annhilated Kevin Holland taking no strikes.
9. An injured Khamzat IMMEDIATELY ragdolled Kamaru, previously the #1 P4P and the person with the best statistical TDD in all of the UFC. Then broke his hand. Then still won a decision.
10. Khamzat annihilated Robert Whittaker (did he even take any strikes?)

Do you realize what we've been watching? This has literally never happened before. If it wasn't for UFC PR and bullshit matchmaking (he should have been fighting for the WW belt after beating Gilbert / not setup to punish Nate fucking Diaz because the UFC wanted to kill his value prior to leaving the UFC) Khamzat COULD have been the 3-time division champ of memes. We have likely lost the prime of the most exciting prospect in MMA history solely due to political bullshit, and all it took was a laughably transparent storyline 37 events ago to sway fairweather fans. Since then we've seen political posturing about how it is Khamzat's fault that he is being politically persecuted and prevented from competing due to the West's desire to virtue signal / ban a top athlete because they don't like his president. And for what? So you can kill the chance to watch some of the best performances in MMA history?

War Khamzat. When I say he "annihilated" people I mean the same way I'd win going 100% vs an old lady. Do you realize how Earth-shatteringly odd that is vs UFC-level and elite-level talent? It is literally unprecedented. Those of us who get what we are watching understood that a long time ago... while the rest were still rehashing PR taglines spoon-fed to them to cover the UFC's ass for hijinks years ago. He should be double champ by now (WW and MW). Instead PR has wasted it on bullshit bookings like vs Nate and vs Costa 46 times or whatever it was for that completely idiotic matchup.

Enough time wasting. Title shot NOW. Stop wasting the prime of this guy with amazing potential so we don't have to watch the utterly uncompelling DDP vs Sean rematch that literally no one on Earth besides Sean is campaigning for.
 
Khamzat fucked himself missing weight and getting injured and pulling out of fights and whatnot. Let's be real here.

But yeah, it's time. It's been time.

He's earned his MW title shot, he had earned a WW title shot.

I think scratch the Strickland fight and get him in there vs DDP asap.ASAP.

Sorry Sean, there's just a guy who is breaking jaws in round 1 here. The pitter patty decisions you put on need to move to the side.
 
He would have already fought for the title if he'd been reliable these past few years.
His path to the title was jacked once they used him to try to punish Nate. Then we had years of virtue signaling regarding politics. Then they tried to have him vs idiotic matches vs Costa 10 times.

That's my point: if the company didn't drop the ball on his promotion the title shots would have already happened. The most exciting career trajectory in the UFC has been hijacked after stupid ass decisions by the org.
Why post inactivity memes literally hours after the guy steamrolls a top 3 opponent?
 
You're saying the company is conspiring AGAINST an extremely popular Caucasian Muslim fighter, for no reason?
I laid out the reason. He was the fall guy for them clearly altering all the matches at UFC 271 once it became apparent that the fans and media villainized the UFC and made Nate into a hero for being sacrificed. Read that paragraph. It is #7.
 
Hes the greatest grappler in the UFC. just won over 300 bucks in 1 to 1 bets at work against people saying Whittaker was gonna stuff every takedown and pick him apart. Khamzats wrestling/grappling/groundgame/whaterver you wanna call it shits on anyone except never taken down Usman who he still beat,, or Gilbert Burns who Khamzat wanted to bar brawl against. He will man handle Izzy/du plesses / strickland , even poatan if he drops in weight and win the strap undefeated.
 
well he was wearing glasses at this presser, so I think he's learned his lesson
 
Khamzat sucking down to 170 probably fucked his immune system back then. It appears he has reached his full potential.
 
Hes the greatest grappler in the UFC. just won over 300 bucks in 1 to 1 bets at work against people saying Whittaker was gonna stuff every takedown and pick him apart. Khamzats wrestling/grappling/groundgame/whaterver you wanna call it shits on anyone except never taken down Usman who he still beat,, or Gilbert Burns who Khamzat wanted to bar brawl against. He will man handle Izzy/du plesses / strickland , even poatan if he drops in weight and win the strap undefeated.
I would literally bet my house on Khamzat if he fought Alex at 185. Make bank against all the legions of "I saw that guy in a UFC video game so he should win" casuals.
 
What I always default to in these situations is a mix of:

1- Khabib logic
2- Follow the money

1 - "If King Kong can make 155..."
2- Who would be the favorite if they could make the weight?

I'm confident Khamzat is a favorite over everyone at 185.
If he could make 170 I'm confident he'd be the favorite over everyone.

Does he deserve the shot based on the above? Absolutely
Overdue? Absolutely
Will you get hate for this thread? Absolutely
Does Khamzat's lack of professionalism deserve a lot of blame? Absolutely

So you're not wrong and yet wrong at the same time but I hear you brother. Also his contract is something like $20mm/7 fights. He'll do whatever the UFC tell him to and be happy even if his interview persona chirps a bit.
 
His problem was being borderline retarded overtraining without proper resting and even when sick.

He finally decide to have an IQ above 80 and found out that resting properly does wonders. And Im really glad for that
 
Just said in another thread I still think he's a one or two round fighter but how many people at MW and LHW can survive those rounds?

Whittaker has amazing defensive grappling and he just got his jaw broken Khamzat is scary.
 
If he can't fight outside Abu Dhabi, he won't be getting a title shot.
Khamzats slow trudge upwards is entirely his fault, and it's strange that you attempt to blame the UFC and "PR" when it's obvious that they were building him into a star (still are) but it's his ass that was missing weight, getting sick from "overtraining", and pulling out of three fights.
 
If he can't fight outside Abu Dhabi, he won't be getting a title shot.
Khamzats slow trudge upwards is entirely his fault, and it's strange that you attempt to blame the UFC and "PR" when it's obvious that they were building him into a star (still are) but it's his ass that was missing weight, getting sick from "overtraining", and pulling out of three fights.
Yes that's my point. If political bullshit prevents them from letting us ever see the best prospect in the UFC from challenging for a title, then that's complete bullshit.

I am also saying he didn't legit miss weight. Read #7.

There is literally no fighter on the roster (that isn't a HW) that wouldn't "miss weight" by a similar amount if they were told to rehydrate by a "UFC doctor" and then weighed
 
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