Amanda Nunes vs Cyborg 2?

[snackgod]

Bellator has a woman FW millions of times better than the UFC. Dana White is a dumbass and hates Chris enough to tell everyone she didn't want the fight so she moved to Bellator which before she fought Nunes she mentioned it had a more stacked WFW anyway.

cris exit plan was always fight spencer than run to bellator.

that why she posted that video cause it was part of her im the victom exit plan to run safely into the arms of scott coker and the cans they had to offer.why fight amanda nunes again when there leslie smith amanda bell and past her prime cat who cris turned down as a fight at ufc 214.

 

[xhaydenx]

She didn't look incredible against Leslie Smith of all people. She couldn't do anything to Nunes last time and she definitely wouldn't do anything now.

 

[Captain Herb]

The better fighter doesn't always win she got lucky.

I don't think she got lucky but I also don't think she wins that fight more than half the time

 

[xhaydenx]

Why not Valentina? I thought Valentina won the second fight (as did many others). That's the fight to make but unfortunately Dana and Amanda want no part of it. I understand from a business perspective. Why risk it, right?

Val wants no part of it either, otherwise she'd be up at BW fighting her way to another title shot. She says all this stuff about wanting it and thinking it will happen eventually, but she's making no moves, and she's the challenger. It's up to her to bring it about, not for Nunes to go chasing after a girl she beat twice who left for a lower division.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Val wants no part of it either, otherwise she'd be up at BW fighting her way to another title shot. She says all this stuff about wanting it and thinking it will happen eventually, but she's making no moves, and she's the challenger. It's up to her to bring it about, not for Nunes to go chasing after a girl she beat twice who left for a lower division.

She's in the proper weight division for her size, she's smaller than Amanda. Second fight was Valentina's (judges got it wrong even though it was close).

 

[Boomb]

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[Goutfather]

Nunes is so overrated it's hilarious. if you actually pay attention to her technique Cyborg is miles ahead of her. The better fighter doesn't always win. In a rematch Cyborg by late stoppage or dec.

agreed. i think cyborg underestimated nunes because she’s used to crushing cans (which tbf most female fighters are), she got sloppy and paid the price. but nunes is so overrated, its ridiculous. luckly for nunes cyborg is never allowed back in ufc.

 

[TJ Dillashank]

agreed. i think cyborg underestimated nunes because she’s used to crushing cans (which tbf most female fighters are), she got sloppy and paid the price. but nunes is so overrated, its ridiculous. luckly for nunes cyborg is never allowed back in ufc.

It's the same with say Mousasi vs Hall Mousasi got KOed after dominating but then in the rematch won quickly. And people also comparing Amanda to some men is ridiculous.

 

[ChristianZilla]

I would pick Nunes in a rematch. Cyborg could win of course, but overall I think Amanda is better right now.

 

[xhaydenx]

She's in the proper weight division for her size, she's smaller than Amanda. Second fight was Valentina's (judges got it wrong even though it was close).

If she's in the proper weight division for her size, then what do you want Nunes to do about that? Nothing will ever change the fact that Valentina is smaller than Nunes.

Nunes is the BW champ. She isn't going to chase a natural FLW around, not when she already has two wins over here. She's said she's fine with a third fight, but why would she go on and on about that when Valentina left for FLW?

And again, actions speak louder than words. If Val wants the third fight, she knows what division she needs to be in, and FLW is not it.

And how can the judges have gotten the 2nd fight wrong when it was that close and it's their interpretation of the rules? Personally, I scored it for Val, but could easily see it for Nunes. As many people seemed to think Nunes won it as those that did Valentina as well.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

If she's in the proper weight division for her size, then what do you want Nunes to do about that? Nothing will ever change the fact that Valentina is smaller than Nunes.

Nunes is the BW champ. She isn't going to chase a natural FLW around, not when she already has two wins over here. She's said she's fine with a third fight, but why would she go on and on about that when Valentina left for FLW?

And again, actions speak louder than words. If Val wants the third fight, she knows what division she needs to be in, and FLW is not it.

And how can the judges have gotten the 2nd fight wrong when it was that close and it's their interpretation of the rules? Personally, I scored it for Val, but could easily see it for Nunes. As many people seemed to think Nunes won it as those that did Valentina as well.

You're not making much sense. Valentina is in the division where she belongs. She doesn't need fights at 135 to get a title shot. She's the queen of her division (see Conor, GSP etc...). She has nothing to prove. She arguably beat Amanda the second fight in a division she doesn't really belong in. Look what happened when Andrade (a very good fighter, beat Rose once and many including myself thought she won the second fight) moved up to a division she doesn't belong in. I just don't think you understand how good Valentina is. She deserves whatever she wants at this point.

 

[fandangler101]

Would've been and still is the best fight for Nunes, so it's a shame Cyborg went to BT. Chances of her coming back I'd say are slim, as there was so much friction between her/her team and the UFC.
Nunes should be the favorite, it was a spanking, but Cyborg's still the most dangerous fighter out there.

Rightfully so. Dana was downright disrespectful. Would you work for a boss who publicly disparages you?

I would love to see Nunes and Cyborg run it back. It’s an exciting match with guaranteed fireworks.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

Rightfully so. Dana was downright disrespectful. Would you work for a boss who publicly disparages you?

I would love to see Nunes and Cyborg run it back. It’s an exciting match with guaranteed fireworks.

I'd rather see Valentina vs Amanda. I couldn't agree more about Dana. He's a POS for the way he treated Cyborg.

 

[MCS]

Rightfully so. Dana was downright disrespectful. Would you work for a boss who publicly disparages you?

I would love to see Nunes and Cyborg run it back. It’s an exciting match with guaranteed fireworks.

No, I wouldn't. And combat sports are like the last bastion for that. Cyborg has been a champ for longer than any current UFC champ has been with the promotion. That's how good she's been. And Nunes has no good fights coming up, so this would've been it.

 

[xhaydenx]

You're not making much sense. Valentina is in the division where she belongs. She doesn't need fights at 135 to get a title shot. She's the queen of her division (see Conor, GSP etc...). She has nothing to prove. She arguably beat Amanda the second fight in a division she doesn't really belong in. Look what happened when Andrade (a very good fighter, beat Rose once and many including myself thought she won the second fight) moved up to a division she doesn't belong in. I just don't think you understand how good Valentina is. She deserves whatever she wants at this point.

How am I not making sense?

You said Nunes and Dana don't want a part of a third fight, but nothing indicates that at all. Nunes has literally said she's fine with it.

Whether Valentina belongs at BW is irrelevant. She was there, and was for most of her career.

I'm not sure why you're bringing up Andrade. Andrade is a strong brawler. She beat Rose the first time and almost the 2nd time purely because she can set a pace that Rose has always shown herself to be weak to after round 2. Her losing to Val had little to do with size. Val schooled her with technique. Remember, Andrade was a girl that was picking up and throwing BWs.

I understand exactly how good Valentina is. I've been a huge fan before she even came to the UFC.

You can argue that she deserves a third fight purely because she's the champ at another divsion. I get that, but if she wants it, she needs to go after it, not say crap like she's sure it will happen eventually and that she wants to focus on FLW.

 

[immyaxl]

No, no you really can't say those things, especially not the second one. You are either blind, or just don't actually follow women's mma.

Yeah, yeah I can. There's many hardcore fans who don't care for women's MMA at all. I don't have a problem with it but to say any weight class has a lot of depth is ridiculous. Hell some of the men's divisions don't have any depth either.

 

[immyaxl]

she should have to prove it cause there proof she made 500k from the ufc in 1 fight.

also cris is lied. notice she posted that doctored video in a way to make dana look bad.

Dana doesn't need any help to look bad. That guy has lied beyond count on lots of things. Dana has no credibility whatsoever. Cyborgs team shouldn't have posted that vid but that's on them. Cyborg and the UFC never got along from way back in the Strikeforce days. They never wanted her and only kept her around so other promotions couldn't use her. After years of dominance she finally lost a fight then they were comfortable with letting her go. She fights an undefeated challenger as her last fight who the UFC hoped with all their might would beat her to and it didn't happen. Two fights later the Same girl is fighting Nunes for the belt and lost to her too. How anyone can defend the UFC on anything is beyond me. It's corrupt from top to bottom and has been ever since Zuffa bought it in 2001.

 

[immyaxl]

Val wants no part of it either, otherwise she'd be up at BW fighting her way to another title shot. She says all this stuff about wanting it and thinking it will happen eventually, but she's making no moves, and she's the challenger. It's up to her to bring it about, not for Nunes to go chasing after a girl she beat twice who left for a lower division.

Val is a good fighter but isn't good enough to be champ at 135. That's why she went down to 125.

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

How am I not making sense?

You said Nunes and Dana don't want a part of a third fight, but nothing indicates that at all. Nunes has literally said she's fine with it.

Whether Valentina belongs at BW is irrelevant. She was there, and was for most of her career.

I'm not sure why you're bringing up Andrade. Andrade is a strong brawler. She beat Rose the first time and almost the 2nd time purely because she can set a pace that Rose has always shown herself to be weak to after round 2. Her losing to Val had little to do with size. Val schooled her with technique. Remember, Andrade was a girl that was picking up and throwing BWs.

I understand exactly how good Valentina is. I've been a huge fan before she even came to the UFC.

You can argue that she deserves a third fight purely because she's the champ at another divsion. I get that, but if she wants it, she needs to go after it, not say crap like she's sure it will happen eventually and that she wants to focus on FLW.

There's nobody in the flyweight division for Valentina, that's why the 3rd fight makes sense, especially with what happened in the second fight. I disagree with how you saw the Andrade fight. Valentina has great technique but being bigger than Andrade helps with grappling. It's why Amanda will try to takedown Valentina again if they fight a third time. Valentina was clearly better striking in the second fight with Amanda, especially later in the fight. The FLW division is new and was formed with Nicco. Valentina was fighting in the wrong division, they didn't have a division for her so your point there doesn't make sense.

 

[xhaydenx]

There's nobody in the flyweight division for Valentina, that's why the 3rd fight makes sense, especially with what happened in the second fight. I disagree with how you saw the Andrade fight. Valentina has great technique but being bigger than Andrade helps with grappling. It's why Amanda will try to takedown Valentina again if they fight a third time. Valentina was clearly better striking in the second fight with Amanda, especially later in the fight. The FLW division is new and was formed with Nicco. Valentina was fighting in the wrong division, they didn't have a division for her so your point there doesn't make sense.

Not saying the size didn't help Valentina against Andrade, but it was definitely more skill. People were making it out like she was twice Andrade's size and just used brute strength. Not saying that you're implying that or anything though.

Nunes probably will try to take down Val if they fought, I agree, but I don't see how Val was clearly a better striker in the 2nd fight when the first 4 rounds were all on the feet and she got slightly outlanded in each one. If she had clearly been the better striker, she'd have cleanly won more rounds than she lost out of those 4, but that didn't happen.

I still don't see how Val was fighting in the wrong division. Not counting what happened with Carmouche, she had never been beaten at BW and she fought there her entire career up until she lost to Nunes a second time. Other than Nunes, no one gave her any real trouble.

She goes from getting tds and having no issues against a big BW like Holly to losing to Nunes in what was basically a standing point fight, and then all of a sudden "she was always too small".