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All Time GOAT poll

Still got GSP over Jones. Better quality wins in their prime but it's 1a and 1b. I think it turns out Gane can't grapple to save his life, never fought someone with decent grappling his entire career, probably very overrated honestly. We will see when Gane fights a guy like Spivak, Aspinal, Blaydes in the future if it's just a glaring hole.
Insane you have anyone over Jones
 
He won't even be the greatest HW if he beats Stipe, he wouldn't even be a greater HW than DC. People seem to think you suddenly take ones accomplishments once you beat them.


Thats kinda how fighting works man...

It doesnt change the past per say..but it does raise your legacy up based on the other guys successes and u beat him...

For example if someone took Khabibs 0 and never did another thing career wise... he'd still be the guy who did it forever... Much like Buster Douglas who was the first to beat Tyson....he took alot from Tyson and he pretty much became the man overnight...

Thats how fighting works sometimes
 
Yep, Jones has yet to be finished by a 40 year old who officially gave up at least 16 lbs.
 
Thats kinda how fighting works man...

It doesnt change the past per say..but it does raise your legacy up based on the other guys successes and u beat him...

For example if someone took Khabibs 0 and never did another thing career wise... he'd still be the guy who did it forever... Much like Buster Douglas who was the first to beat Tyson....he took alot from Tyson and he pretty much became the man overnight...

Thats how fighting works sometimes
That's not what I am saying. It certainly elevates your career but no one considers Conor better than Aldo at FW when it comes to their all time standings. You don't just leapfrog them.
 
Repeatedly cheating by ignoring or failing to abide by the rules of your chosen profession means you ARE NOT the goat.
 
To Stipe? I see noway stipe can win that fight, not even with a shotgun. lol

How do you think it would go?
Stipe could win, much like how Chael Sonnen almost beat Jones, especially if Stipe had a shotgun.
 
Fedor v Jones, inevitable that these two collide, sad it's only in a textual GOAT debate

Repeatedly cheating by ignoring or failing to abide by the rules of your chosen profession means you ARE NOT the goat.
Counterpoint: getting away with it means you ARE
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Jones all the way. I have NO doubt that if Jones in his prime fought Fedor in his prime in an Open weight tournament, that he would beat Fedor, and probably finish him. When Jones is motivated, he is nearly unbeatable. Best ever.:cool:
 
Now when the dust has settled after this weekends card I feel like its pretty obvious that no one in the sport is even close to Jon Jones. He went up to heavyweight like he said he would and he made it look easy.

I cant really say I blame Francis Ngannou for turning down 8 million to fight Jones.

Straight up domination for 15 years. Who can say that?
 
It's almost impossible to argue otherwise, dude holds the most important records which won't be ever broken anytime soon, at least not in our lifetimes.
 
It's almost impossible to argue otherwise
it's extremely easy to argue otherwise. barry bonds is not the home run king either. guys like him and jones and the rest of the cheaters spoil the sanctity of the records for whatever sports they're involved in. won lots of fights, but a cheat. a huge asterisk on the sport.
 
it's extremely easy to argue otherwise. barry bonds is not the home run king either. guys like him and jones and the rest of the cheaters spoil the sanctity of the records for whatever sports they're involved in. won lots of fights, but a cheat. a huge asterisk on the sport.
Funny people think Jones is the only mma fighter to ever popped, they all get the adventage one way or another.

Even actual mma fighters agree Jones is the goat.
 
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