All the slam KO'S are actually just headbutt KO'S Right?

[MMA_AZ]

I know the back of the head hitting the canvas is no good but I think it's the headbutt that follows causes the lights to go out.
Any thoughts?

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Rampages was, for sure. Not sure about this one tonight.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

People go limp from punches behind the head, now imagine slammed (falling) on the back of your head not only with your weight behind it but your opponents weight behind the slam.

 

[snaportap21]

Gerald Green’s two kos and the Hughes Newton Ko weren’t headbutt iirc

 

[rollthedice]

They're a contributing factor in some cases, but the combination of framing of the forearm across the chin, the back of the head taking the contact. Sometimes just the force or landing on the head wrong is enough to sleep someone. Other's can take some crazy slams and recover such as Fedor against Randleman. You get slams like when Vinc Pinchel got slammed there was 0 headbutt involved. Tonight's one I believe had a headbutt similar to Rampages and like rampages, I think it helped contribute but it wasn't the decider, I do think under video review these finishes could be DQs or NCs depending if the headbutts are intentional or not however that would damage marketing ability.

 

[Oz.Pride]

Now I see where Randleman went wrong

 

[r-harper-1]

Mostly yes ….. Rose landed on her head and a few that weren’t……sometimes the forearm is on the throat on the way down which leads to a possible ko

 

[meast]

The monkey kings on Matt Wiman was legit

 

[BigTruck]

They come close to spiking and opponent on their head but that has to be a more pile driver like move for it to be illegal if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Tatra]

Rampages was, for sure. Not sure about this one tonight.

Arona's head hits the canvas before Rampage's head hit's Arona's head. It's hard to imagine Arona wasn't out cold from the initial impact.

 

[Prince Nephilim]

Gerald Harris was not a headbutt, he braced Branch with his forearm similar to tonight

 

[darcandkharg]

Harris did it three times with his forearm on their faces, I called it the Harris special

 

[usernamee]

Harris did it three times with his forearm on their faces, I called it the Harris special

a staple in the Harris household

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Arona's head hits the canvas before Rampage's head hit's Arona's head. It's hard to imagine Arona wasn't out cold from the initial impact.

Ok

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

They're a contributing factor in some cases, but the combination of framing of the forearm across the chin, the back of the head taking the contact. Sometimes just the force or landing on the head wrong is enough to sleep someone. Other's can take some crazy slams and recover such as Fedor against Randleman. You get slams like when Vinc Pinchel got slammed there was 0 headbutt involved. Tonight's one I believe had a headbutt similar to Rampages and like rampages, I think it helped contribute but it wasn't the decider, I do think under video review these finishes could be DQs or NCs depending if the headbutts are intentional or not however that would damage marketing ability.

Didn’t Pinchel get his thumb dislocated on a suplex from Khabilov?

 

[rollthedice]

Didn’t Pinchel get his thumb dislocated on a suplex from Khabilov?

Probably, I just remember it being a pretty nasty slam

 

[chinarice]

By slam, do you mean Powerbomb? If you mean like even takedown slams then no

 

[Motivated BJ Penn]

Why wouldnt you just let go the submission and stand up at that point?

 

[bobafett]

You try slamming a guy like that and making sure your head doesn’t hit him, it’s harder than it looks

 

[LincolnHawk1]

I saw the slam ko today from different angles. There was no head butt, he just slammed him on the back of his fucking head hard. Most guys are going night night in that situation. The follow up punches were completely unnecessary. Guy was out immediately from slam as his arms fell to his side immediately and eyes rolling to back of his head with a limp body.