Media Ali declares war against ESPN.

[TR1]

Read the book

https://books.google.com/books/about/Twilight_in_America.html?id=_pKeMQEACAAJ

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-muslim-training-camps-2015-9

Read this article. Shouldn't take you more than a few minutes.

 

[blaseblah]

LOL try harder.

I'm not reading some bullshit (which I suspect you yourself have not read) when American local and federal law enforcement has steadfastly denied all of these asinine claims of homegrown terrorist training camps. Specifically, these absurd "Muslims of America" one that are supposedly tied to Ali.

Nice that you retreated from your ridiculous insinuation that Ali must have terrorist ties because he was an FBI informant though.


EDIT: Actually, i did a little digging. Apparently that shit-tier book you linked talks about Ali living in Islamberg. Ironic, as that place has been threatened with MULTIPLE terrorist attacks by good ole Americans.
Good thing we figured out who the real terrorists are in this episode .

Ali is the one who chose to participate in the book, it is not a slam piece against him. Read it. He literally claims he was part of a terrorist organization.

 

[TR1]

Ali is the one who chose to participate in the book, it is not a slam piece against him. Read it. He literally claims he was part of a terrorist organization.

1.) What makes the book you cited credible?
2.) Which terrorist org did Ali "claim to be in" in this book of yours?
3.) Paste the passage please.

 

[TR1]

Ali is the one who chose to participate in the book, it is not a slam piece against him. Read it. He literally claims he was part of a terrorist organization.

Also, the book you quoted:

Authors- Martin Mawyer is the Founder and President of Christian Action Network

Lmao. Says all you need about its "credibility".

 

[leto1776]

i dont understand, i made a comment about ariel

You said Ariel is petty, while the discussion is about a “manager” withdrawing his clients from high profile interviews due to personal reasons. Who is the petty one here? Also, what is Ariel’s agenda? All he did was to call for a fight between Burns and Edwards.

 

[Quacky Chan]

1.) What makes the book you cited credible?
2.) Which terrorist org did Ali "claim to be in" in this book of yours?
3.) Paste the passage please.

Why wouldn't Ali sue the book writer or Ariel for defamation if what they accused him of was false?

 

[I am your real dad]

 

[TR1]

Why wouldn't Ali sue the book writer or Ariel for defamation if what they accused him of was false?

Possibly because libel or defomation lawsuits are very difficulty in the US.

I don't know, nor do I really care.

In no way does that constitute as evidence that those books are anything but drivel by crazy fundie Christians.

 

[letgodiego]

You said Ariel is petty, while the discussion is about a “manager” withdrawing his clients from high profile interviews due to personal reasons. Who is the petty one here? Also, what is Ariel’s agenda? All he did was to call for a fight between Burns and Edwards.

yea thats his agenda. burns was next for title shot, why is it only fair for him to fight edwards? edwards needs another top win before he gets talked about for title. i like edwards, but burns deserves the shot. btw i agree with what you said on ali, i just dont know why you directed it to me, like i was defending him, cause i wasnt.

 

[TR1]

Why wouldn't Ali sue the book writer or Ariel for defamation if what they accused him of was false?

Also, if you actually bothered to read something yourself:

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-muslim-training-camps-2015-9

From this article, by an actual newspaper, not some website a nutter made in his basement:

"In 2014, The Muslims of America, Inc. (an offshoot of the dissolved MOA) sued the authors of a book called, "Twilight in America: the Untold Story of Islamist Terrorist Training Camps in America," which accused MOA of training American Muslims for terrorist activity.

(The court ruled that The Muslims of America [TMOA] had no standing to sue over the alleged damage to MOA's reputation, however, because TMOA is not MOA's legal successor.)"

So, yeah they did try to sue.

 

[blaseblah]

1.) What makes the book you cited credible?
2.) Which terrorist org did Ali "claim to be in" in this book of yours?
3.) Paste the passage please.

It's credible because Ali sought the author out. I could give a shit what the author believes. This is testimony from Ali himself.

“I was the guy that traveled for MOA,” Ali said. “I established jamaats (compounds). I could set up jamaats overseas.” No wonder Barry Adams thought of Ali as The Jackal. “I was Barry’s right-hand man. Some of the MOA members thought I was Barry’s bodyguard. I just viewed myself as his companion. I traveled to Virginia and South Carolina with him. I helped settle disputes at the various camps. Barry would visit me. He would bring his wife and kids. He loved me. He said he loved me very much.

He was a high ranking member of MOA, set up camps overseas, and was very close to Barry Adams, who was convicted of a Canada bombing plot in 1991 as a member of Jamaat ul-Fuqra.

 

[SATW]

after that lady Ariel cried now that desert pagan is crying

 

[blaseblah]

Also, the book you quoted:

Authors- Martin Mawyer is the Founder and President of Christian Action Network

Lmao. Says all you need about its "credibility".

Ali sought this dude out. Read it. There's dozens of quotes from Ali talking about what he did as part of MOA.

 

[Dorkman]

I'm surprised no one has really fucked up ariel.

he doesn't deserve to get fucked up for this, but just a summation of events.

There have been those who've definitely wanted too but know it's a real bad career move to actually do so. Nick Diaz basically straight told him to his face that he wanted to slap the taste out of his mouth with a line like "Guys who do that kind of stuff where i'm from end up getting slapped" when he brought up ariels habit of instigating things between fighters.

 

[Quacky Chan]

Possibly because libel or defomation lawsuits are very difficulty in the US.

I don't know, nor do I really care.

In no way does that constitute as evidence that those books are anything but drivel by crazy fundie Christians.

Crazy fundie Christian's? Wut?

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

Well that's a bold declaration.

 

[DaHammer]

Just a day after Ben Askren said he’s gonna overtake Ariel as the most popular mma personality...

 

[TR1]

It's credible because Ali sought the author out. I could give a shit what the author believes. This is testimony from Ali himself.



He was a high ranking member of MOA, set up camps overseas, and was very close to Barry Adams, who was convicted of a Canada bombing plot in 1991 as a member of Jamaat ul-Fuqra.

No, it's not credible, because the author is a crazy fundie with zero credibility with academia, law enforcement, or journalism.
What are his sources? Ali told me LOL? That good enough for you? How come nobody with an established reputation has any evidence to provide on this?
Why has law enforcement steadfastly denied these claims about MOA and "Fuqra" (whatever it is) and training camps?

It's that simple. Nothing he claims has any validity, and probably came out of his ass.

The guy is a member of the "Christian Action Network", literally a bunch of fundies triggered by muslims and gays.
They have zero credibility with anyone who isn't a drooling tard.

 

[TR1]

Crazy fundie Christian's? Wut?

Every single claim re. Ali, MoA and "Al Fuqra" or whatever comes from "Fuqra Files", or some bullshit books like cited above, written by an author from the Christian Action Network.

Zero credibility, contrary to what law enforcement and real journalism.

You have to be a real dope with zero critical thinking skills to parrot what they say.

 

[Arrrrgh]

Does Ali ever follow through on any of his threats?
I mean he says a lot of shit that gets attention but I honestly can't remember anything he's actually talked about. It's just a constant line of bs. I guess that's an effective way to be to manage fighters and their ego's so there's that.