Media Alex Pereira training for a comeback

Again: being "fast-tracked" is UFC's problem, not Poatan's... And being fast-tracked doesn't mean Adesanya shouldn't give him a rematch, he got one in the first place. It's far away from being settled and Adesanya not wanting to give him a rematch is just cowardice.

Why are you so against Poatan having EARN a titleshot by fighting actual contenders like everyone else at 185 has to???

If he is so good, then it shouldn’t be hard to rack up some wins
 
I'm not saying it's Poatan's problem, hell if I was in his shoes I'd gladly take the easy path to the title. I just want it to be made clear exactly what happened with him and why it's an issue that needs resolving.

I don't really care whether they give him the rematch or not, frankly. I don't care if it gets "settled" either, nor do I care about what fans think of it being "cowardice". None of that shit registers with me. If I'm being honest I think instant title rematches are idiotic regardless of the circumstances unless there was legitimate controversy in the initial fight. So needless to say the fact that Alex got an easy path to the title on top of not having built himself back following his loss... I don't really have any sympathy for him in this situation.
But it doesn't mean Adesanya doesn't need to give Poatan an instant rematch. The door swings both sides, they say. He won't because him and UFC are synchronized with that idea, but that's doesn't mean it's fair or even (much less) settled.
 
Why are you so against Poatan having EARN a titleshot by fighting actual contenders like everyone else at 185 has to???

If he is so good, then it shouldn’t be hard to rack up some wins
My point also applies to you: Adesanya got an instant rematch, so it's Poatan's merit to also have one. Pretty simple.
 
I noticed Pereira does a lot of punches with a vertical fist instead of the typical boxing horizontal fist. Is there much of a power difference in those types of punches? Even his hook is like a whip instead of turning over.
 
But it doesn't mean Adesanya doesn't need to give Poatan an instant rematch. The door swings both sides, they say. He won't because him and UFC are synchronized with that idea, but that's doesn't mean it's fair or even (much less) settled.

Technically speaking, Adesanya doesn't need to do anything. He is the incumbent champ and is favored by the promotion. He has used that favor twice now to help elevate (arguably undeserving albeit dangerous) contenders into a position wherein they could challenge him for the title. Pereira won, Adesanya got an instant rematch (which I don't personally agree with, but is a common occurrence and is pretty standard precedent with longtime-defending/dominant champs), and then beat Pereira to reclaim his title. Now he (and presumably Dana judging solely by post-fight talk) have decided Pereira gets no more favors at 185 and it's a done deal. You are free to cry foul from the sidelines about how it's 1-1 or to bring up contests from another sport, but there is there is no moral or contractual obligation for Izzy to push for Pereira to fight him yet again.

You can say it's wrong or underhanded or a sign of cowardice or what have you and maybe you know what? Maybe you're right and Adesanya wakes up in bed every night in a cold sweat from night terrors about the idea of facing Poatan again. It's entirely possible. But, like I said, my sympathy for Alex is pretty limited. The guy led a charmed path to the title and got a world championship out of it. The fact that he doesn't get his precious instant rematch and would have to be forced to pick between moving up to 205 now or sticking around to fight a Top 5 guy or two and earn said rematch garners exceedingly little sympathy from me. I wish more ex-champs were willing to do what Whittaker did after losing to Izzy the first time, honestly.
 
Technically speaking, Adesanya doesn't need to do anything. He is the incumbent champ and is favored by the promotion. He has used that favor twice now to help elevate (arguably undeserving albeit dangerous) contenders into a position wherein they could challenge him for the title. Pereira won, Adesanya got an instant rematch (which I don't personally agree with, but is a common occurrence and is pretty standard precedent with longtime-defending/dominant champs), and then beat Pereira to reclaim his title. Now he (and presumably Dana judging solely by post-fight talk) have decided Pereira gets no more favors at 185 and it's a done deal. You are free to cry foul from the sidelines about how it's 1-1 or to bring up contests from another sport, but there is there is no moral or contractual obligation for Izzy to push for Pereira to fight him yet again.

You can say it's wrong or underhanded or a sign of cowardice or what have you and maybe you know what? Maybe you're right and Adesanya wakes up in bed every night in a cold sweat from night terrors about the idea of facing Poatan again. It's entirely possible. But, like I said, my sympathy for Alex is pretty limited. The guy led a charmed path to the title and got a world championship out of it. The fact that he doesn't get his precious instant rematch and would have to be forced to pick between moving up to 205 now or sticking around to fight a Top 5 guy or two and earn said rematch garners exceedingly little sympathy from me. I wish more ex-champs were willing to do what Whittaker did after losing to Izzy the first time, honestly.
Yes, he does. Poatan gave Adesanya an instant rematch. Also Poatan was champion and champions deserve instant rematch as almost always were like that. Only champions that they don't like as Stipe and a few others didn't get it. Not Poatan's case. They are only doing it because UFC prefers Adesanya as a champ, they invested on him since the beginning and they don't want to lose that. Water is wet, next.
 
Took a month off back in the gym, hopefully after that KO he waits another few months until taking a fight, but that good cheddar is enticing.
he knows he needs to get back in there. People don't even remember who francis N is anymore
 
And? Poatan was champion and any champion should get instant rematches. Poatan also gave Adesanya an instant rematch.

Any champion? No that’s ridiculous.


ONLY DOMINANT CHAMPIONS DESERVE REMATCHES

Alex Pereira has ZERO title defenses. He gotta earn his way back the same way Whittaker had to
 
Hope not.

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Yes, he does. Poatan gave Adesanya an instant rematch. Also Poatan was champion and champions deserve instant rematch as almost always were like that. Only champions that they don't like as Stipe and a few others didn't get it. Not Poatan's case. They are only doing it because UFC prefers Adesanya as a champ, they invested on him since the beginning and they don't want to lose that. Water is wet, next.

No, he does not. Alex didn't have any leverage in that situation, unfortunately for him -- despite being the one holding the belt. Adesanya was going to get that instant rematch regardless of whether Alex wanted to give it and regardless of how anyone (myself and others) felt about it.

You will not get me to agree that champions deserve instant rematches. This is a belief that I've held for a long time. I don't like the trend of constant rematches log-jamming divisions. As it stands, though, if I'm forced to deal with it I'd rather deal with the long-standing precedent of defending/dominant champs getting one rather than a dude who got fast-tracked. I don't have any sympathy for the latter.

Next.
 
If you're an active fighter and you start training for your next fight, that's not what a "comeback" is.

I know, right?

Post a video of a fighter punching a bag. whoo comeback whoo.

Comeback?! This guy beat everyone everywhere and has an occasional loss.

It's not a comeback, it's a fighting career.
 
I know, right?

Post a video of a fighter punching a bag. whoo comeback whoo.

Comeback?! This guy beat everyone everywhere and has an occasional loss.

It's not a comeback, it's a fighting career.

Where's your threads of infinite wisdom sir?
 
izzy fought romero, vettori (two times) Brunson, and Whittaker (who would all fold alex).

What wrestler has Alex fought?
And a huge chunk of people thought he lost to Romero and Whittaker
A poster actually broke down that Romero fight strike for strike and it actually made like no sense to score that fight for Izzy.. but because the fight blew nobody cared
 
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