Social Alex Jones' Infowars has filed for bankruptcy

ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Yeah but you're a dumbass.

I knew a guy in college back in like 2008 who was super into Alex Jones so I used to have to listen to a bunch of his shit back then when I'd go over to smoke weed.

None of it was right wing stuff. It was all 9/11 conspiracy stoner shit and chem trails and stuff.

It was dumb as fuck, but it wasn't far right at all.
Click to expand...

Where exactly do you think reactionary populism is on the political spectrum?
The American school of conspiratorial libertarians hasn't really changed much since the John Birch Society.
 
Ruprecht said:
Where exactly do you think reactionary populism is on the political spectrum?
The American school of conspiratorial libertarians hasn't really changed much since the John Birch Society.
Click to expand...

In the 90s and early 2000s all the conspiracy guys were considered left wing.

It's not hard to figure out why.

The establishment back then was firmly right wing, so if you were anti establishment, you were considered left wing.

Now the establishment is firmly left wing, so naturally, if you are anti establishment, the smear used is that you're 'far right' for one simple reason as posted above.

CatchnShoot said:
"far right" is synonymous with POS
Click to expand...

This one is so dumb and brainwashed he doesn't even feel the need to hide it, for example.

Now of course we can go back on forth on how the establishment isn't really left wing but is just the worst parts of right wing ideology hiding behind a gay pride flag, but none of that matters because the lefties eat it up and think they're saving the world.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
In the 90s and early 2000s all the conspiracy guys were considered left wing.

It's not hard to figure out why.

The establishment back then was firmly right wing, so if you were anti establishment, you were considered left wing.

Now the establishment is firmly left wing, so naturally, if you are anti establishment, the smear used is that you're 'far right' for one simple reason as posted above.
Click to expand...

The John Birch Society has always been considered far-right. If you read any of their stuff from the '60s on, and you're at all familiar with Alex Jones, you'll see exactly what tradition of conspiracy theorist he is. You know why he sold fluoride free toothpaste in his store right? It's not because of some hippy dippy woo woo, it's because of the anti-communist conspiracy theories about the fluoridation of public water.
 
Ruprecht said:
The John Birch Society has always been considered far-right. If you read any of their stuff from the '60s on, and you're at all familiar with Alex Jones, you'll see exactly what tradition of conspiracy theorist he is. You know why he sold fluoride free toothpaste in his store right? It's not because of some hippy dippy woo woo, it's because of the anti-communist conspiracy theories about the fluoridation of public water.
Click to expand...

Loads of dentists don't support fluoride use. Are they far right?
 
lilelvis said:
Seems like shooting themselves in the foot if getting paid is their intent.
Click to expand...
Are you talking about the families here? If so, then good for them. People always bitch about money grab lawsuits, but if the families just want him out of business so he can't create more victims then they deserve applause.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Loads of dentists don't support fluoride use. Are they far right?
Click to expand...
Loads? That would certainly be strange since the science is pretty uncontroversial and that would run contrary to all the relevant bodies.
Do they also believe that fluoridation is a communist plot? That would tend to make them also far-right.

There are of course cross overs between left and right wing conspiracies regarding GMOs etc, and even with right and left wing populism, but there really shouldn't be any doubt about what variety Alex Jones is. The reactionary conservatism is defining.
There's plenty of cold war fiction that takes the piss out of exactly his sort, everything from Dr Strangelove to The Illuminatus! trilogy. It's not like the majority of his conspiracies are new ideas.
 
ColemanwastheGOAT said:
Yes. Loads.
Click to expand...
Not here there isn't, so I can only guess why that's the case in the US, considering it's explicitly contrary to the relevant national and international health bodies.
But yes, the US was certainly the point of origin for fluoridation conspiracy theories, and they weren't left-wing.
 
Poon Goon said:
Are you talking about the families here? If so, then good for them. People always bitch about money grab lawsuits, but if the families just want him out of business so he can't create more victims then they deserve applause.
Click to expand...
Only problem is, bankruptcy liquidation will dissolve free speech systems, liquidate its assets at auction, disperse the cash on hand to its creditors and it will be deemed final. If they pierce the corporate veil, which is an entire separate set of laws and protections, they can liquidate his personal assets, too.

Nonetheless, when it’s all said and done Jones will be able to rebuild and continue broad casting..

Seems like letting him continue to make a ton of money toward the judicial award, right up to the ripening of appeal, would be a better tactic..

Less they find a way to jail him for his speech, he will continue.

Ultimately, the idea is to chill political opposition to the gubment.. it’s beyond just Jones.
 
Ruprecht said:
Not here there isn't, so I can only guess why that's the case in the US, considering it's explicitly contrary to the relevant national and international health bodies.
But yes, the US was certainly the point of origin for fluoridation conspiracy theories, and they weren't left-wing.
Click to expand...

The water fluoridation controversy arises from political, moral, ethical, economic, and safety concerns regarding the fluoridation of public water supplies. Public health authorities throughout the world find a medical consensus that water fluoridation at appropriate levels is a safe and effective means to prevent dental caries.[6] Authorities' views on the most effective fluoride therapy for community prevention of tooth decay are mixed; some state water fluoridation is most effective, whereas others see no special advantage and prefer topical application strategies.[7,8] Those opposed argue that water fluoridation has no or little cariostatic benefits, may cause serious health problems, is not effective enough to justify the costs, and is pharmacologically obsolete.[9]
Click to expand...
 
Ruprecht said:
Not here there isn't, so I can only guess why that's the case in the US, considering it's explicitly contrary to the relevant national and international health bodies.
But yes, the US was certainly the point of origin for fluoridation conspiracy theories, and they weren't left-wing.
Click to expand...

Yes there are loads.

The consensus is that at 'appropriate levels', it's safe to drink. But there is no consensus that it actually helps prevent tooth decay.

In a high enough dose, flouride is toxic.

Continue drinking toxic chemicals to own the CHUDS though.
 
lilelvis said:
This is an indication that this was never about money. Free speech systems offered 55 million settlement and it was turned down. Now they are intentionally removing Jones ability to make money, which is curated by the bankruptcy court and goes to his debtors.
Seems like shooting themselves in the foot if getting paid is their intent.
Click to expand...
If I recall correctly the guy spread out over a hundred million dollars among friends and families to hide before the judgement. The guy lost the case. He doesn't get to determine how much money he's willing to pay out while staying filthy rich himself.
 
Loiosh said:
The water fluoridation controversy arises from political, moral, ethical, economic, and safety concerns regarding the fluoridation of public water supplies. Public health authorities throughout the world find a medical consensus that water fluoridation at appropriate levels is a safe and effective means to prevent dental caries.[6] Authorities' views on the most effective fluoride therapy for community prevention of tooth decay are mixed; some state water fluoridation is most effective, whereas others see no special advantage and prefer topical application strategies.[7,8] Those opposed argue that water fluoridation has no or little cariostatic benefits, may cause serious health problems, is not effective enough to justify the costs, and is pharmacologically obsolete.[9]
Click to expand...

Sure, there's areas now that are removing the fluoride as it's not cost effective if the entire population has good dental hygiene with fluoridated toothpaste. Even so, it's not that they oppose all fluoride intake or the use of flouride in toothpaste for adults short of allergy. It went the other way here with Queensland, they were the only state not to fluoridate their water supply, and the cavies in disadvantaged communities were statistically worse, so they started.
No natural fluoride in our water supply though.
Some states have also considered it the same as medication without consent, even though there's water supplies with naturally higher fluoride levels (just not here) they don't reduce the fluoride in.

I'm not saying "alternative" or "holistic" dental health doesn't exist (although I can't say I've seen any, it's not like I've tried to seek them out), but Alex Jones offers fluoride free toothpaste as part of the long standing US right-wing conspiracies about water fluoridation and general opposition to any collectivist action of the Government.
Not as amusing as some of the other stuff, and personnally in terms of the American right-wing stuff, I always found the conspiracy theorist crossovers with UFOs, religion and cryptozoology a lot more entertaining.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Forum statistics

Threads
1,275,224
Messages
57,975,913
Members
175,889
Latest member
MEthzale

Share this page

Back
Top