Aldo, McGregor, Weidman, Anderson, what do all these "greats" have in common.

tenniswhiz said:
Yea, but when he was UFC champ he used to walk around at about 240 lbs of rock solid muscle. He would cut to MW, rehydrate, and then walk into the cage at about 237 lbs to fight against guys who weighed about 193 lbs.
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Nice troll job. Nobody could be so horrifically imbecilic as to really think this, so your attempted troll has failed.
 
brainwash said:
All were considered great fighters until they had to fight someone bigger than them and lost their advantage to win.

Aldo had a hard time making weight, then comes a better weight cutter in McGregor who knocked him out. Then McGregor had to fight someone that was actually longer than him and gets choked out. Anderson Silva spent his whole career dwarfing the middleweight division until Chris Weidman came along. Then came Luke Rochold who is even bigger than Weidman.

This is the Ultimate Fighting and Weight Cutting championship. You can give it to Silva who moved up weight class and won but he was only fighting journey men.
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Weidman came in 192lbs for this camp to counter the IV ban.
 
Repsac said:
Griffin is the biggest fighter Anderson fought and they had the exact same reach according to the tale of the tape. Griffin might've been slightly heavier but since it was striker vs. striker that never became a factor. Just made him slower and easier to hit. No reach disadvantage for Anderson.
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Yes, Griffin was bigger. Thank you for reiterating this obvious point.
 
Holy shit this thread sucks ass.
 
Kelman said:
Where did I say Bonnar was good??

You're arguing against a point that was not even hinted at, never mind made explicitly.
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You said the argument was demolished because he fought bigger guys like Bonnar and Griffin, my point was fighting bigger guys who are largely cans doesn't prove much. An established champ one division below is likely going to beat the vast majority of guys in the next weight class up, he's only pushing himself if he fights someone who you'd expect to legitimately challenge him. Its a minor point but relevant none the less.
 
LukeSkyRutten said:
That's because they weren't dominant champs. Only GSP, Anderson and Jones. Irrespective of that… I've already posted facts. You can't use the word asinine when you are the one posting bro science.

I've literally posted a numerical fact on his LBM. You have posted a photo… Just because you say something is so, doesn't make it right. A grown adult would just say: "You known what, I was wrong" but you're too immature for that.
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Bro science?? You are twisting statistics to suit some strange inconsistent narrative.....By your calculations, hunt and mcgregor are the same size.....you're being ridiculous.....
 
Kevlar44 said:
You said the argument was demolished because he fought bigger guys like Bonnar and Griffin, my point was fighting bigger guys who are largely cans doesn't prove much. An established champ one division below is likely going to beat the vast majority of guys in the next weight class up, he's only pushing himself if he fights someone who you'd expect to legitimately challenge him. Its a minor point but relevant none the less.
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Nope.

This thread states Anderson only beat smaller men till he lost to Weidman.

I pointed out Anderson was not bigger than guys like Sonnen, Okami, Franklin, Griffin and Bonnar.

I was right, the thread argument has indeed been demolished.

Your opinion or mine on the abilities of Stephan Bonnar mean nothing to the issue at hand.

PS: You do realize that Forrest Griffin was the UFC light-heavyweight champion in his previous fight before facing Anderson, yes? He had beaten both Rampage Jackson and Shogun Rua at the weight class in recent years.
 
brainwash said:
All were considered great fighters until they had to fight someone bigger than them and lost their advantage to win.

Aldo had a hard time making weight, then comes a better weight cutter in McGregor who knocked him out. Then McGregor had to fight someone that was actually longer than him and gets choked out. Anderson Silva spent his whole career dwarfing the middleweight division until Chris Weidman came along. Then came Luke Rochold who is even bigger than Weidman.

This is the Ultimate Fighting and Weight Cutting championship. You can give it to Silva who moved up weight class and won but he was only fighting journey men.
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How can you use Anderson when you fought Griffin, Bonnar and James?
 
I was gonna say they were all white dudes but then noticed Aldo and Silva
 
I agree
Oeshon said:
dumbest thread ive seen all year.

anderson silva fought plenty of fighters bigger than him before weidman. size wasn't a factor at all in his losses there.

size also wasn't a factor for aldo vs mcgregor either.
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i agree, size wasn't a big factor in a lot of those situations. It wasn't really a factor in either of Silvas losses to weidman. One he was clowning with his hands down and got cold cocked and the other was the broken leg
 
Kelman said:
Nope.

This thread states Anderson only beat smaller men till he lost to Weidman.

I pointed out Anderson was not bigger than guys like Sonnen, Okami, Franklin, Griffin and Bonnar.

I was right, the thread argument has indeed been demolished.

Your opinion or mine on the abilities of Stephan Bonnar mean nothing to the issue at hand.

PS: You do realize that Forrest Griffin was the UFC light-heavyweight champion in his previous fight before facing Anderson, yes? He had beaten both Rampage Jackson and Shogun Rua at the weight class in recent years.
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It's okay bro. This will never change.

GSP is praised for defeating Penn (1 win at WW and undersized) but Anderson will always be scrutinized for fighting an ex champ that was top 5 in a higher weight class.

That's Sherdog.
 
brainwash said:
All were considered great fighters until they had to fight someone bigger than them and lost their advantage to win.

Aldo had a hard time making weight, then comes a better weight cutter in McGregor who knocked him out. Then McGregor had to fight someone that was actually longer than him and gets choked out. Anderson Silva spent his whole career dwarfing the middleweight division until Chris Weidman came along. Then came Luke Rochold who is even bigger than Weidman.

This is the Ultimate Fighting and Weight Cutting championship. You can give it to Silva who moved up weight class and won but he was only fighting journey men.
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He was only fighting 205 journeymen who had held the title at one point, at the last minute, in order to save ruined pay per views. And oh yeah, how is Weidman great when the most important part of his legacy by far is beating the apparently overrated weightcutter extraordinaire himself, Anderson Silva?
 
Brit_Brawler said:
It's an interesting observation in my opinion dispite the comments You've received so far.
I'm trying to think of fighters that Anderson fought that were already bigger than him before Weidman.
When they get to that level in the game , size matters a lot. Especially if both fighters are high Caliber.the bigger guy has the clear advantage.
Gsp seems to be the flaw in your Argument ( I know you didn't mention him but he is a great) gsp was at one point considered big for the division but he's really not . He fought condit and diaz who are bigger than him and probably others and he beat them
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GSP was just over 180 for most of his career. He was 185 to finish his career. He was actually pretty small for WW, he was actually a LW fighting at WW.

Hendricks when he fought GSP was ~200 on fight night. Most of the top WW are 195+.
 
Redhawks100 said:
It's okay bro. This will never change.

GSP is praised for defeating Penn (1 win at WW and undersized) but Anderson will always be scrutinized for fighting an ex champ that was top 5 in a higher weight class.

That's Sherdog.
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Penn and GSP were champs. It would be similar to Silva fighting Machida or Bones .. something he refused to do.
 
Back to the OP though I don't know if Weidman was much bigger, but it was a skill discrepancy, not size. Weidman was a complete fighter.
 
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