AI sucks balls

It is making everyone dumber and will eventually kill the human race.
 
Fedorgasm said:
After using it for a while now, I think I can confidently say that it sucks. And I'm not sure it will ever live up to the hype for these reasons:

1. There's an old addage that goes something like, "Humans are smart but slow. Computers are dumb but fast." And that's been true forever. And it seems like AI hasn't changed that at all.

AI can make you a PowerPoint presentation, or write an essay, or generate some code, but all of it still needs to be reviewed and corrected by a human. So at best, AI is giving you a 1st draft that's usually pretty low quality. It's doing the "dumb but fast" work. Which isn't that different from what computers have always done.

2. When you ask it questions, it's basically just pulling information from the Internet and compiling it into an answer for you. But compiling and summarizing info is something computers could already do without AI. So it really doesn't feel like there's any "intelligence" there.

3. I'm not sure that AI will get much better. Humans are the flaw in the system. Because AI is trained to give humans what they want/need, but humans can't agree on shit. So we want AI to give us accurate answers but some humans will say the earth is flat, and will tell the AI that any answer to the contrary is incorrect, so the AI will struggle to provide facts because nobody can agree on the basic facts of anything anymore.

So the promise that AI will cure diseases and shit I think are completely false. I don't see any of those positive contributions that we're expecting. But we still get all the downsides, like students cheating, jobs being eliminated, fake videos and other AI slop flooding the market. Etc.

It seems like we're going to get all the downsides and very few, if any, upside.

I've never been a Luddite and I have always loved cool new tech, but AI sucks and I think it's likely that it always will.
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Morons keep outsourcing for AI 🤖 and h1bs. When you see how catastrophic it will be; dot com was tech. 08 was housing.

These morons got this crap in everything (healthcare, education, infrastructure, etc). This isn’t going to end well.

Zero AI companies are profitable. Please no morons bring up chip companies.
 
Joe Mama said:
I think the fact that people think that "AI Sucks" is a reflection of your ability to utilize it for what you are expecting out of it.

Sure, I can use a long stick to hammer a nail into something.
But I can also use a hammer.
Shit, even more advanced I can use a nailgun.

All 3 of the aformentioned are *tools* - HOW you use them will determine their usefulness based on the task you are trying to accomplish (and whether or not its the right tool for the job).
Just because you aren't necessarily adept in said utilization, or your application of said usage isn't yielding the desired results (that you have set an expectation for) doesn't make the tool itself 'suck'.

AI is a tool. Good or bad, useful or useless - its here and is proving quite useful for a majority of its users.
And has been for much much longer than we have been aware.

Its just now coming into mainstream usage.
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So 1998s Delta Force video game had no AI and it was not mainstream?
 
This post reminds me of when I thought iPhones were dumb and would never catch on because they had bad battery life.
 
i hate AI slop but sometimes it's cool seeing the potential.

ignore the obvious physics problems and comic inaccuracies.

 
Have to disagree. And I'm very anti-AI hype, although, as someone with a CS degree, I might be biased.

1. Most humans will also produce a first draft that is low quality in nature. But it depends on the task. On language based tasks, I'd say the first draft LLMs currently provide is far better than what most people would produce, and in a tiny fraction of the time. Same for coding. This is just objectively true, and tech companies currently FORCE you to use AI, because you are far more productive with it than without it. And these are the most heartless profit centered mofos around. If it sucked, they wouldn't do that.

2. Hmm that's not exactly what it's doing. Kind of a simplification. At the same time, I agree that LLMs aren't intelligent in the way people are.

3. AI will definitely get better. There is no question about this. True, there is no consensus on some topics. E.g., AI won't "solve" who the most ideal political candidate is, or something like that, because this is a poorly defined question in the first place. It won't solve that, because it is not solvable. But it can help solve other problems.

4. I certainly see ways AI can help cure diseases. Although it depends on what you mean exactly. By some definitions, it already has done that (plenty of medical research uses different kinds of machine learning and such). The same humans who cure diseases could easily choose the material to train a system on, and this system would be somewhat specialized and have access to medical research information, but with vastly more computational power than any person. The training materials that a system is fed are not as impossible to control as what you seem to believe. I would actually be surprised if AI doesn't help find cures for diseases in some way, and I think it's almost certain that it will play a role in that.

5. I agree that there are downsides, like with any technology. It's all too new to say whether the net value will be better or worse for humanity in general in the long term, but this "it will always suck" kind of attitude is hard to get behind.
 
Volador said:
Have to disagree. And I'm very anti-AI hype, although, as someone with a CS degree, I might be biased.

1. Most humans will also produce a first draft that is low quality in nature. But it depends on the task. On language based tasks, I'd say the first draft LLMs currently provide is far better than what most people would produce, and in a tiny fraction of the time. Same for coding. This is just objectively true, and tech companies currently FORCE you to use AI, because you are far more productive with it than without it. And these are the most heartless profit centered mofos around. If it sucked, they wouldn't do that.

2. Hmm that's not exactly what it's doing. Kind of a simplification. At the same time, I agree that LLMs aren't intelligent in the way people are.

3. AI will definitely get better. There is no question about this. True, there is no consensus on some topics. E.g., AI won't "solve" who the most ideal political candidate is, or something like that, because this is a poorly defined question in the first place. It won't solve that, because it is not solvable. But it can help solve other problems.

4. I certainly see ways AI can help cure diseases. Although it depends on what you mean exactly. By some definitions, it already has done that (plenty of medical research uses different kinds of machine learning and such). The same humans who cure diseases could easily choose the material to train a system on, and this system would be somewhat specialized and have access to medical research information, but with vastly more computational power than any person. The training materials that a system is fed are not as impossible to control as what you seem to believe. I would actually be surprised if AI doesn't help find cures for diseases in some way, and I think it's almost certain that it will play a role in that.

5. I agree that there are downsides, like with any technology. It's all too new to say whether the net value will be better or worse for humanity in general in the long term, but this "it will always suck" kind of attitude is hard to get behind.
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it's going to reach a point where it replaces all but the most necessary workers. humanity becomes obsolete and the tech bros will push people to merge with technology (brain implants, whatever) if they want a better life.

at the same time AI gets plugged into everything and people's lives are ruled by machines. people are no longer worrying about "foreigners taking their jobs" when in reality it's machines taking all jobs.

i don't know what the world will look like but a world where people have been replaced by bots and don't work sounds like a terrible one, and relying on the state or even companies for handouts to survive will be hell.

i don't believe it when musk says that there will be no poverty and everyone will have access to super cheap, high tech healthcare, because we all know that governments (plus corporations i'm sure) will demand complete obedience from the peasant class before they'll let them get healthcare or handouts.

the post-work world sounds like hell.
 
Frank_Drebin said:
it's going to reach a point where it replaces all but the most necessary workers. humanity becomes obsolete and the tech bros will push people to merge with technology (brain implants, whatever) if they want a better life.

at the same time AI gets plugged into everything and people's lives are ruled by machines. people are no longer worrying about "foreigners taking their jobs" when in reality it's machines taking all jobs.

i don't know what the world will look like but a world where people have been replaced by bots and don't work sounds like a terrible one, and relying on the state or even companies for handouts to survive will be hell.

i don't believe it when musk says that there will be no poverty and everyone will have access to super cheap, high tech healthcare, because we all know that governments (plus corporations i'm sure) will demand complete obedience from the peasant class before they'll let them get healthcare or handouts.

the post-work world sounds like hell.
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this why i don't like trump being surrounded by musk, thiel, and the rest of those silicon valley goons. i don't know what kind of shitty advice they're giving him, but edging us towards skynet is very dangerous, even if it means falling behind the AI race.

china already treats it's citizens like rats, so they don't care about subjugating them to AI-led digital experiments/torture, but that's not something the civilized world should to their own people. maybe i'm wrong.
 
blopdak said:
This post reminds me of when I thought iPhones were dumb and would never catch on because they had bad battery life.
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god my fucking iphone battery sucks ass. so did my ipod touch batteries, and the funny thing about those was, its intended for playing music, no? but for some reason playing music killed my battery faster than it usually took to die. fuckers.
 
A big part of the issue is that there's a ton of AI washing going on these days. 80 percent of software that claims to be "AI" isn't really AI.. it's just another algorithm/machine learning used for automation with the AI name slapped on it. While some of this is useful, much of it isn't and it blows up the whole AI narrative.
 
Anewt said:


Found this imterestin
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this, but also, if neuralink or whatever other tech gets implanted into people's brains, manipulating people and even driving them crazy won't just be for those who are susceptible to mental illness. having someone's brain connected to the internet will be a recipe for disaster.

what if their memories can be hacked?
what if false memories can be implanted?
what if bad actors can attack certain parts of the brain?
what if you can send signals and just drain all their dopamine? or other chemicals? or make them anxious? or mad? what if you can induce bipolar? or schizophrenia?

once neuralink becomes a thing, this will all be a possibility eventually, and i still can't believe people think this is a good idea. maybe these ideas sounded amazing 30 years ago, but we're wise enough to know that governments and big business are corrupt and all about control.
 
OMG, maybe AI slop isn't as bad as we thought. this is surprisingly good, it's nothing like the stiff clueless actions we see from typical clips. imagine in just a few years! or months...

 
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