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Television AHSOKA Live-ActionSeries (Premieres Aug. 23, 2023)

Was behind in watching, work and family things.

Finally caught ep4, will watch 5 after I eat and do chores.

Baylon Bless
 
They need a competent director for the movie. Filoni's style doesn't translate well to live action. I started enjoying Ahsoka from episode three on but it's still pretty flawed and part of the reason I can live with the rough edges is because I watched TCW and Rebels and like the characters. I kinda think like Lucas Filoni is a good ideas guy but he needs the right people around to give it the best translation to live action.
 
They need a competent director for the movie. Filoni's style doesn't translate well to live action. I started enjoying Ahsoka from episode three on but it's still pretty flawed and part of the reason I can live with the rough edges is because I watched TCW and Rebels and like the characters. I kinda think like Lucas Filoni is a good ideas guy but he needs the right people around to give it the best translation to live action.

Well Colin Trevvorow or whatever is out. A big hell no to J J Abrams.

Maybe Josh Whedon makes a comeback for this? Is his cancellation over?

Of course there’s always Favreau. He did Iron Man 1 and 2; he might be able to handle it.
 
Well Colin Trevvorow or whatever is out. A big hell no to J J Abrams.

Maybe Josh Whedon makes a comeback for this? Is his cancellation over?

Of course there’s always Favreau. He did Iron Man 1 and 2; he might be able to handle it.
Shit, I dunno man. I would say Filoni knows the tone of Star Wars best but I'm not sure what director would help translate that to the big screen. Maybe Favreau.

Favreau would be my choice.

I got a feeling we get Thrawn next episode...
Yeah I think so too. I hope they're not saving him for the finale.
 
Shit, I dunno man. I would say Filoni knows the tone of Star Wars best but I'm not sure what director would help translate that to the big screen. Maybe Favreau.


Yeah I think so too. I hope they're not saving him for the finale.

Honestly if Thrawn doesn't show up till the end I'll respect them for the balls of making it a slow burn.

That said, we'll probably see him end of second to last ep, then the focus will be on everyone else during the finale...Thrawn returns to the SW main galaxy, fucks some shit up, probably kills someone, we see a piece of his master plan set in motion and then the credits roll.
 
They need a competent director for the movie. Filoni's style doesn't translate well to live action. I started enjoying Ahsoka from episode three on but it's still pretty flawed and part of the reason I can live with the rough edges is because I watched TCW and Rebels and like the characters. I kinda think like Lucas Filoni is a good ideas guy but he needs the right people around to give it the best translation to live action.

Tbh I'd like to see Filoni develop his own live action story with new characters before saying Filonis style doesn't translate. Converting animation to live action is a difficult thing to do almost iregardless of context and Filoni developed all his characters in animation.

Not that Filoni will get that chance anyime soon if at all but worth saying.
 
Favreau would be my choice.

I got a feeling we get Thrawn next episode...



Steven Spielberg. He and Lucas are close friends too -I’d love to see what a motivated Spielberg with that look in his eye Star Wars would look like.


They need to get full control away from Disney tho. No fucking around, do this thing right.


Or.. get the writers and directors from ‘Andor’ on it
 
Agreed, the prequels added tons of lore, creatures, groups that were accepted by even core fans. I remember playing Star Wars Galaxies, great game at the beginning and it's whole world was build upon the prequels. There are still, 20 years after numerous private servers going aswell.
The Sequels are just trash compared.

In the prequels, the actual storyline and world building that became canon wasn't bad. It was the execution and dialogue.

The turn to the dark side by Anakin was way too abrupt and not natural. And he had some cringe lines - but I don't think it was Hayden Christensen's acting - it was the lines he was given.

That and of course Jar Jar was way too cartoonish and goofy.
 
They need a competent director for the movie. Filoni's style doesn't translate well to live action. I started enjoying Ahsoka from episode three on but it's still pretty flawed and part of the reason I can live with the rough edges is because I watched TCW and Rebels and like the characters. I kinda think like Lucas Filoni is a good ideas guy but he needs the right people around to give it the best translation to live action.

To be fair I think the last episode had some very good directing in it, prior to that it did seem to be pointing to him being better suited to writting than directing with the 3rd and 4th episodes flowing more.

You could argue I spose the opening episodes had a lot of exposition for not animated viewers to give and perhaps also had to deal with shifting the characters from simpler animated versions to more humanised live action ones.
 
In the prequels, the actual storyline and world building that became canon wasn't bad. It was the execution and dialogue.

The turn to the dark side by Anakin was way too abrupt and not natural. And he had some cringe lines - but I don't think it was Hayden Christensen's acting - it was the lines he was given.

That and of course Jar Jar was way too cartoonish and goofy.

This gives me an oppurtunity to address the other side of this coin in the OT that never gets addressed which is Vaders redemption.

I've always found the idea that Vader is suddenly reedemed and becomes Anakin for saving Luke and killing Palpatine to be silly. Vader was not opposed to doing either of those things as a Sith he felt he was unable to do them because Sidious was too powerful. Which was not inaccurate given that Vader was killed taking Sidious out. He did not really change his mind on anything, he'd wanted Sidious dead since ROTS. Sidious forced his hand and put him into a corner where it was now or never.

I don't really see a transformation change there even if Vader admits there's good in him and that Luke was right.

In terms of Anakin to Vader one thing I will say is that Anakin would have supported the creation of the Empire as a Jedi if we throw away Order 66 and all the force stuff that goes along with that. This is made very clear in AOTC when hes talking to Padme. He did not like the Republic and really believed in the whole peace, justice and security thing.
 
This gives me an oppurtunity to address the other side of this coin in the OT that never gets addressed which is Vaders redemption.

I've always found the idea that Vader is suddenly reedemed and becomes Anakin for saving Luke and killing Palpatine to be silly. Vader was not opposed to doing either of those things as a Sith he felt he was unable to do them because Sidious was too powerful. Which was not inaccurate given that Vader was killed taking Sidious out. He did not really change his mind on anything, he'd wanted Sidious dead since ROTS. Sidious forced his hand and put him into a corner where it was now or never.

I don't really see a transformation change there even if Vader admits there's good in him and that Luke was right.

In terms of Anakin to Vader one thing I will say is that Anakin would have supported the creation of the Empire as a Jedi if we throw away Order 66 and all the force stuff that goes along with that. This is made very clear in AOTC when hes talking to Padme. He did not like the Republic and really believed in the whole peace, justice and security thing.

Agree the Vader redemption arc was brief and somewhat iffy, but it was there. Sith ideology is based on coveting, acquiring and holding onto power. Anakin started on that path in AOTC and he wanted it for himself, coveting power albeit to help others. When he fought Luke in ESB, he again was coveting power - he wanted Luke to join him so they could overthrow Palpatine and consolidate power under Vader. Again in ROTJ, Vader wants Luke to join him. He's even willing to recruit Leia but again wants to be the man, not just the man sitting next to the man.

In taking out Palps, Vader does the opposite. He's actually surrendering power, both because Palps is about to shoot fatal lightning up his arse and because he's subjugating himself to Luke's judgment and (correct) assessment of his character. He's doing the "good guy" thing by jumping on a grenade to save his son - something a Sith wouldn't do.
 
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This gives me an oppurtunity to address the other side of this coin in the OT that never gets addressed which is Vaders redemption.

I've always found the idea that Vader is suddenly reedemed and becomes Anakin for saving Luke and killing Palpatine to be silly. Vader was not opposed to doing either of those things as a Sith he felt he was unable to do them because Sidious was too powerful. Which was not inaccurate given that Vader was killed taking Sidious out. He did not really change his mind on anything, he'd wanted Sidious dead since ROTS. Sidious forced his hand and put him into a corner where it was now or never.

I don't really see a transformation change there even if Vader admits there's good in him and that Luke was right.

In terms of Anakin to Vader one thing I will say is that Anakin would have supported the creation of the Empire as a Jedi if we throw away Order 66 and all the force stuff that goes along with that. This is made very clear in AOTC when hes talking to Padme. He did not like the Republic and really believed in the whole peace, justice and security thing.
I found Vader's redemption at the hand of his son believable, especially as he knew he'd get killed in the process so it was selfless, it was his turn to the dark side and killing children 15 minutes later that I couldn't buy. That's part of why I like The Clone Wars so much - it paints Anakin as a good guy getting slowly corrupted by manipulation and war (which is how I envisioned him after hearing about him in the original trilogy), which makes much more sense to me than the way it was portrayed in the prequels, which was basically that he was an asshole who started killing kids to save his waifu.
 
I think it's only 8 episodes, so they better get moving with Thrawn and Ezra and less screen time for Sabine.
 
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