Crime Ahmaud Arbery shooting v3

[A Lurker]

We've all seen the same video and none of us like what we see. The difference between you and me is not that we don't want to see justice, it's that you don't care about baseless and wild claims about this being a race driven hate crime.

There have been lots of lies on both sides but that's all fine and good when it's used to further demonize the defendants and divide a nation with the race baiting narrative. None of us know what exactly happened, you wouldn't think that listening to many of you.

You literally were just exposed for propagating White Supremacist bullshit (knowingly or not).

 

[sickc0d3r]

Poor Ahmaud probably had this playing through his head while he was being hunted down by those animals.

El-Ps verse from the perspective from a police officer is insanely fitting.

Song is perfect, and that video is awesome.

 

[The ScorpioN]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ahmaud-arbery-mother-georgia-officials-would-have-covered-up-murder
Not that I expect you to read it.

I read it, my question stands. We only have the mother's and their lawyer's word that the cops lied.

It's been out there for over a week now. Don't you think the Police Chief would have corrected the record if he was lying?

I'd imagine this will come out in court. I'd wait.

 

[44nutman]

You literally were just exposed for propagating White Supremacist bullshit (knowingly or not).

Yeah but the media.
A lot of posters in this thread hooked up their horse to the wrong carriage.
Those two deserve jail time for their bullshit. There is no need to defend them. They acted like dumbasses, a dude died and leave it at that.
The worst part is the DA protecting them. They are supposed to be unbiased but did everything they could to make it go away.

 

[A Lurker]

The worst part is the DA protecting them. They are supposed to be unbiased but did everything they could to make it go away.

The best I can think of, is the DA thought there was culpability as the police appear to have recommended that homeowners contact the dunce patrol if they saw something suspicious. So of course the DA made the moral choice to cover that shit up. Everyone is going to jail.

 

[LMP]

Race isn't the issue, here. Unless you're a racist.

Or unless the McMichaels are racist. I haven't seen anything that indicates they are.

 

[milkmandanl]

if anybody has good poll suggestions let me know

Does the race card NEED to be played in this card?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

Song is perfect, and that video is awesome.

The more I listen to it the more fitting it is. Especially for the Georgia references.

This line also mirrors an El-P line from “Thieves! (Screamed the Ghost)”:

This house is haunted by pain transposed into revenue

In both examples, “haunted” refers to the specter of racism and violence in this country. Here, it specifically refers to the actions of police officers; El-P speaks from the perspective of a police officer in this verse.

When I file reports what's right's what I write
Snuff films air all night 'till your last sane thought take flight

Considering the lies by the police force and the fact we are all debating a snuff film.

If you dig RTJ this is my favorite track of theirs. good to see Zack De La Rocha still has it.

Another video quite fitting for the event even though the majority of the song is anti prison.

When you gon' unite and kill the police, mothafuckas?
Or take over a jail, give them COs hell
The burnin' of the sulfur, goddamn I love the smell
Now get to pillow torchin', where the fuck the warden?
And when you find him, we don't kill him, we just waterboard him
We killin' them for freedom 'cause they tortured us for boredom
And even if some good ones die, fuck it, the Lord'll sort 'em

I read it, my question stands. We only have the mother's and their lawyer's word that the cops lied.

I'd imagine this will come out in court. I'd wait.

Oh this is fun.

The Glynn County Police Department's track record of protecting its own is coming under scrutiny as the Georgia Bureau of Investigation takes over the case of the shooting death of Arbery, the 25-year-old black man whose killing has drawn comparisons to a modern-day lynching.

"There is not just one prior case. There are many prior cases. And each one is a separate Netflix episode," said Page Pate, a criminal defense attorney in Glynn County.

In 2018, Glynn County Police Lt. Robert Sasser killed his estranged wife and her friend, before taking his own life. The wife's family is now suing the police department because they say authorities failed to intervene before the murders.

Sasser had a well-documented history of problematic behavior. In 2010, he and another officer were involved in a brutal police shooting when they opened fire on a woman who had led the officers on a low-speed police chase. Sasser avoided punishment and remained on the force.

report by the International Association of Police Chiefs noted that only 12% of the police force was African American, even though African Americans make up 26% of the county's population.

In 2019, the county's drug task force was disbanded. A state-led investigation found extensive misconduct by Glynn County police officers, including one officer who had sex with a confidential informant.

It got worse yet. Glynn County Police Chief John Powell was indicted for perjury and witness tampering four days after the Arbery shooting. The police chief remains on administrative leave.

"We have a history of protecting our own within the legal system. That applies across the board to Glynn County law enforcement. With covering up misdeeds or looking the other way," said Newell Hamilton, Jr., a criminal defense attorney in Glynn County.

This is the police department you're caping for homie. I wonder why.

 

[A Lurker]

Does the race card NEED to be played in this card?

That's the real crime in all this mess

 

[A Lurker]

This is the police department you're caping for homie. I wonder why.

As some other posters have already stated, any case involving that DA is now suspect, at the very least.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

That's the real crime in all this mess

The ex pig (who was removed from his job) hunted him for four minutes but don't you care imply that there might be a racial aspect to this. Georgia has NEVER had a history of hunting down and murdering black men and how dare anyone compare the similarities no matter how striking they may be.

This article about the history of the KKK and law enforcement in Georgia is fucking insane.

https://theintercept.com/2020/05/14/georgia-bureau-of-investigation-ahmaud-arbery/

Stetson Kennedy, a human rights activist famous for infiltrating the Klan in the 1940s, wrote in his 1990 book that when Klan leader David Duke asked him who was “running the Klan now,” he told Duke that it was the GBI’s former director, Roper. “I know Roper all right!” Duke said.

 

[b34stmode]

Hey guys ima just drop this here and wait for Madmick or whatever the mods name is to respond. Again, like ive said for the entire two threads as a Republican who supports people's rights, these two are FUCKED.

Anyone want to tell me what they see?



The guy filming should be charged as well, he literally focuses away as soon as he sees the son point the shotgun at Ahmaud.

 

[A Lurker]

Hey guys ima just drop this here and wait for Madmick or whatever the mods name is to respond. Again, like ive said for the entire two threads as a Republican who supports people's rights, these two are FUCKED.

Anyone want to tell me what they see?



The guy filming should be charged as well, he literally focuses away as soon as he sees the son point the shotgun at Ahmaud.

@Madmick, comment?

 

[nixkid]

Hey guys ima just drop this here and wait for Madmick or whatever the mods name is to respond. Again, like ive said for the entire two threads as a Republican who supports people's rights, these two are FUCKED.

Anyone want to tell me what they see?



The guy filming should be charged as well, he literally focuses away as soon as he sees the son point the shotgun at Ahmaud.

He definitely pointed the gun. But I don't think that is going to sway Madmick. He's too invested and he's already decided that he's not going to give an inch. His argument has already entered the realm of silly (that a man being chased by unknown men with guns cannot immediately assume that they are a threat and has no right to defend himself). He can just double down on silly to explain it away.

 

[b34stmode]

He definitely pointed the gun. But I don't think that is going to sway Madmick. He's too invested and he's already decided that he's not going to give an inch. His argument has already entered the realm of silly (that a man being chased by unknown men with guns does not have the right to assume they are a threat and has no right to defend himself). He can just double down on silly to explain it away.

The only saving grace any of them with this style argument had was we had no clear footage of the gun being pointed. We only had the son moving towards Ahmaud. Now we have both.

 

[BEER]

Hey guys ima just drop this here and wait for Madmick or whatever the mods name is to respond. Again, like ive said for the entire two threads as a Republican who supports people's rights, these two are FUCKED.

Anyone want to tell me what they see?



The guy filming should be charged as well, he literally focuses away as soon as he sees the son point the shotgun at Ahmaud.

The junior McMurderer absolutely pointed the gun. It was insane to me that people were saying he didn't.

And it's more than safe to assume that, in the two seconds in which he chased Arbery to the front of the truck, that he was pointing it then.

 

[A Lurker]

He definitely pointed the gun. But I don't think that is going to sway Madmick. He's too invested and he's already decided that he's not going to give an inch. His argument has already entered the realm of silly (that a man being chased by unknown men with guns cannot immediately assume that they are a threat and has no right to defend himself). He can just double down on silly to explain it away.

i.e. it will be comedy gold.

 

[Burning Bridges]

Hello, I am very interested in the tragic killing of A. Arbery and created a profile because this seems a very smart, friendly place to discuss such topics.

I personally have no problem with the civic arrest that may have been handled more reasonably by both sides, or accuse the McMichaels of direct racism but I have a BIG problem with the killing itself, which appears to from a civic arrest to fistfight and a live and death struggle within seconds, over practically nothing.

I see in the video that the victim acted recklessly, but this in itself should have not resulted in more than the first, uncontrolled shot and a few punches on the head, and then both sides should have handled this reasonable and without weapons. The father and the man in the car should have come to help and the 3 men could have overwhelmed and calmed down Armery without anything more than the wound in his hand. Right?

I tried to analyze the video for some time. There were 3 shots and I can clearly hear (and see) that Travis McMichael immediately reloaded his gun after the first shot, and then again, two times and this resulted in two further shotgun blasts that killed Arbery.

This brought me into a very polemic discussion with some really nasty people wether the weapon is a pump action shotgun.

Those people said that they don't hear anything and it was a semi-automatic shotgun, and therefore this was an accident. I have prepared an amplified sound sample in which I can clearly hear the racketing sound of a pump action shotgun.

https://vocaroo.com/mx9uKrKGbGv

So I have question. If you use good, loud headphones you can also hear it in the video and see that Travis McMichael could be seen reloading the gun, quite skillfully actualy but this means imo the "accident" is out of the window.

I hope the McMichaels will get a fair trial. But I ask myself what Arbery could have done when he was mortally wounded for not much more than grabbing and pointing away a loaded gun pointing at him, and that it was actually him who was in a life and death struggle, not the other way around.

Peace.

 

[jamel]

So the sister posted pics and video of arbery's body on Snapchat...


It's like this family is watching yall defend them and they keep shooting for my basket.

Gotdamn.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Who would guess that the people that side with racism all the time defend these guys. Just think about the posters and think how they post on these topics every single time.


These are the same guys who push “racism doesn’t exist” type Nonsense.

As if anyone with a brain would think BIKES would ever take the side of the man who was killed.