Crime Ahmaud Arbery shooting v3

[The ScorpioN]

This is the police department you're caping for homie. I wonder why.

So your prejudice stems from a pattern of behavior eh. Can we use the same logic for other groups of people?
I'd wait for the trial tbqh. I'm agnostic for now.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

So your prejudice stems from a pattern of behavior eh. Can we use the same logic for other groups of people?
I'd wait for the trial tbqh. I'm agnostic for now.

Then why the fuck are you in this thread? Come back during the trial then dingus since you're bootlicking what appears to be a systematically corrupt police force. Your abysmally low level of intellect should be studied by doctors quite frankly. It's almost impossible to be so purposely obtuse without some form of brain trauma involved.

 

[A Lurker]

I'm agnostic for now.

I suggest you stop trying to sell this shit son, cos aint nobody here willing to buy it.

 

[AgonyandIrony]

So the sister posted pics and video of arbery's body on Snapchat...


It's like this family is watching yall defend them and they keep shooting for my basket.

Gotdamn.

Sister plz don't.

 

[The ScorpioN]

Then why the fuck are you in this thread? Come back during the trial then dingus since you're bootlicking what appears to be a systematically corrupt police force. Your abysmally low level of intellect should be studied by doctors quite frankly. It's almost impossible to be so purposely obtuse without some form of brain trauma involved.

 

[b34stmode]

So the sister posted pics and video of arbery's body on Snapchat...


It's like this family is watching yall defend them and they keep shooting for my basket.

Gotdamn.

What....? Source?

 

[Madmick]

Amaud has to run to the front of the truck because there are steep ditches to his right. Forward was the only totally clear path. It so happens a man chose to charge across the street at him brandishing a shotgun directly into that path. Ya, that's a threat he was suddenly faced with while his retreat was blocked, and not a legal threat. Amaud made attempts to run the opposite direction of the shooter, the shooter ran at him and cornered him between the truck and ditch.

You'll admit before Amaud grabs for the shooter there is a moment they are blocked by the truck correct? What happened during that time? Did he point the gun at Amaud? Did he move at Amaud? Can you tell me what was said verbatim? You don't know because you can't see so you are assuming what happened to fit your narrative.

You can claim your plan was to detain someone for some suspected misdemeanor all you want after you've shot them. Who gives a fuck, it matters what actions he actually carried out not what his fantasy was. If I see someone litter I can dream about detaining them with all my heart, that doesn't mean I can try to box them using vehicles in a public road and sprint straight at them holding a shotgun and then claim self defense if they react. Those are very threatening acts. They are the literal definition of giving someone reasonable belief their life is in immediate danger. Suspicions of a misdemeanor does not grant you some 007 license kill and to break laws and threaten folks. Guess why? The threat and danger it puts the pedestrian you wish to detain in is waaaaay to high for a minor infraction.

I know you don't actually believe your own argument because you won't grab a shotgun and your car and go try to box in some jaywalker or someone who's littered and sprint across the road at them while brandishing the gun. Why? You know it's threatening to them and not legal. You're just trying to save some face on this message board and stand your ground here.

What a preposterous justification for him b-lining at Travis. He could have ran off into the yard.

@Madmick, comment?

Hey guys ima just drop this here and wait for Madmick or whatever the mods name is to respond. Again, like ive said for the entire two threads as a Republican who supports people's rights, these two are FUCKED.

Anyone want to tell me what they see?



The guy filming should be charged as well, he literally focuses away as soon as he sees the son point the shotgun at Ahmaud.

Yes, I saw this in the original video, and it isn't clear at all the gun was pointed at Arbery in this segment. You're seeing what you want to see. It's like those above who have twisted the video into an evidential argument that Travis ran at Arbery when the video shows the opposite.

Without clear evidence the guns were pointed in an offensive manner at Arbery, my reasoning is simple. If Arbery had not been shot, what would the charges have been?
False arrest? Yes
False imprisonment? No
Aggravated assault? No
Unlawful show of force with firearms? Yes.

 

[BEER]

What a preposterous justification for him b-lining at Travis. He could have ran off into the yard.

So, the man who was chased through the streets by armed men didn't act as perfectly as he needed to in order to gain your approval as a victim?

Yes, I saw this in the original video, and it isn't clear at all the gun was pointed at Arbery in this segment.

This could be in 4K and you'd still deny that he's raising the gun. It's very clear, dude. You're not seeing what you refuse to see.

 

[A Lurker]

He definitely pointed the gun. But I don't think that is going to sway Madmick. He's too invested and he's already decided that he's not going to give an inch. His argument has already entered the realm of silly (that a man being chased by unknown men with guns cannot immediately assume that they are a threat and has no right to defend himself). He can just double down on silly to explain it away.

Nailed it

 

[Madmick]

So, the man who was chased through the streets by armed men didn't act as perfectly as he needed to in order to gain your approval as a victim?

He is the victim of false arrest and manslaughter by my speculation at this point from what's been released to the public.

This could be in 4K and you'd still deny that he's raising the gun. It's very clear, dude. You're not seeing what you refuse to see.

And Travis ran aggressively at Arbery to physically strike him with the gun, I'm sure you'd argue. I don't see a gun being raised, there. I simply can't tell what the movement is. I watched this segment closely in the raw, original video several times before this IMGUR was posted, and I'd suggest you do the same. It takes place at 11 seconds:

 

[b34stmode]

What a preposterous justification for him b-lining at Travis. He could have ran off into the yard.


Yes, I saw this in the original video, and it isn't clear at all the gun was pointed at Arbery in this segment. You're seeing what you want to see. It's like those above who have twisted the video into an evidential argument that Travis ran at Arbery when the video shows the opposite.

Without clear evidence the guns were pointed in an offensive manner at Arbery, my reasoning is simple. If Arbery had not been shot, what would the charges have been?
False arrest? Yes
False imprisonment? No
Aggravated assault? No
Unlawful show of force with firearms? Yes.

Lol

https://nypost.com/2020/05/18/sister-of-ahmaud-arbery-killer-posted-picture-of-his-body-to-snapchat/

Remember when you posted how she has dated non-whites and the dad and son aren't racist at all? You should be ashamed of yourself.

https://bixonlaw.com/thin-line-brandishing-firearm-leads-aggravated-assault-charge/

Pointing a gun at someone shows intent to do harm. That will be easy to showcase in a trial by the prosecution. I suspect the two previous DA's will most likely be disbarred from this as well.

 

[Fawlty]

Can't stomach wading through all of the racial stuff surrounding this, but whatever the opinion on that, isn't this all really just an argument over whether to charge them with second degree or first degree murder? I'm okay with either outcome.

 

[Madmick]

Lol

https://nypost.com/2020/05/18/sister-of-ahmaud-arbery-killer-posted-picture-of-his-body-to-snapchat/

Remember when you posted how she has dated non-whites and the dad and son aren't racist at all? You should be ashamed of yourself.

You're so emotional it isn't clear to me what argument you think this makes, or how it's relevant to how the two treated her nonwhite boyfriends.

 

[BEER]

He is the victim of false arrest and manslaughter by my speculation at this point from what's been released to the public.

And Travis ran aggressively at Arbery to physically strike him with the gun, I'm sure you'd argue. I don't see a gun being raised, there. I simply can't tell what the movement is. I watched this segment closely in the raw, original video several times before this IMGUR was posted, and I'd suggest you do the same. It takes place at 11 seconds:

I've watched the original far more than I would have liked, and I said he was aiming the gun the entire time. Having a version that is zoomed in and cleaned up a bit makes it PERFECTLY clear what the motion was.

Otherwise, explain the motion. Knowing that he had a shotgun in his hands at that very moment, what do you think are alternatives to him raising the gun?

I've already explained and even posted a breakdown in the original thread that Travis moves around the front of the truck with Arbery runs around the other side. At that point, Arbery likely did attack him. But at that point, it is purely self defense.

And as far as I'm aware (I'm no lawyer), any death during the commission of a crime is charged as murder in the state of Georgia, and Georgia doesn't distinguish between first-degree and second-degree.

 

[BEER]

Can't stomach wading through all of the racial stuff surrounding this, but whatever the opinion on that, isn't this all really just an argument over whether to charge them with second degree or first degree murder? I'm okay with either outcome.

From what I've read throughout the previous thread, apparently Georgia doesn't distinguish between first-degree and second-degree. It's simply murder or various manslaughter charges.

 

[b34stmode]

You're so emotional it isn't clear to me what argument you think this makes, or how it's relevant to how the two treated her nonwhite boyfriends.

It's relevant to her testimony and opinion on the subject as well as who she is as a person.

 

[A Lurker]

Remember when you posted how she has dated non-whites and the dad and son aren't racist at all? You should be ashamed of yourself.

Don't forgot suggesting other posters were the real racists; all the while some of the cunts in this and the previous threads were posting actual white supremacist lies about this case. Thank Christ Fogie is doing the lord's work.

isn't this all really just an argument over whether to charge them with second degree or first degree murder?

You would think.

 

[Madmick]

I've watched the original far more than I would have liked, and I said he was aiming the gun the entire time. Having a version that is zoomed in and cleaned up a bit makes it PERFECTLY clear what the motion was.

Otherwise, explain the motion. Knowing that he had a shotgun in his hands at that very moment, what do you think are alternatives to him raising the gun?

I've already explained and even posted a breakdown in the original thread that Travis moves around the front of the truck with Arbery runs around the other side. At that point, Arbery likely did attack him. But at that point, it is purely self defense.

And as far as I'm aware (I'm no lawyer), any death during the commission of a crime is charged as murder in the state of Georgia, and Georgia doesn't distinguish between first-degree and second-degree.

Your need to argue you can discern "perfectly" what that motion was betrays your bias. This was near to when they were shouting for him to stop. Another explanation is that he was raising the hand to indicate that. Otherwise, watching the raw video posted by media bodies, which is also video I trust not to be manipulated, the movement there is so obscure the only acceptable conclusion once can draw from it is that one can't deduce what they're seeing, clearly, at all. When they come back into frame there still isn't any clear indication the weapons are being pointed at Arbery.

I wonder if this will become the central focus of jury arguments at the trial.

Can't stomach wading through all of the racial stuff surrounding this, but whatever the opinion on that, isn't this all really just an argument over whether to charge them with second degree or first degree murder? I'm okay with either outcome.

First degree murder, LOL?

It's between second degree murder and voluntary manslaughter, or some kind of manslaughter entailing gross negligent recklessness (presuming they have a homicide degree for this in Georgia).

 

[shockaholic12]

What a preposterous justification for him b-lining at Travis. He could have ran off into the yard.


Yes, I saw this in the original video, and it isn't clear at all the gun was pointed at Arbery in this segment. You're seeing what you want to see. It's like those above who have twisted the video into an evidential argument that Travis ran at Arbery when the video shows the opposite.

Without clear evidence the guns were pointed in an offensive manner at Arbery, my reasoning is simple. If Arbery had not been shot, what would the charges have been?
False arrest? Yes
False imprisonment? No
Aggravated assault? No
Unlawful show of force with firearms? Yes.

There were ditches to the right and he had been chased down for the last 4 minutes with vehicles and had been already running for who knows how long before then. Simply running off into the yard and continuing the footrace that had failed him wasn't some clear out.

Travis did run at Arbery. Travis is next to driver's side door of the truck in the lefthand lane. He sees Arbery try to evade them by going around the right side of the truck then Travis, brandishing a shotgun, runs at Arbery to cut him off. He didn't magically teleport from the left lane to directly in front of Arbery in the right lane. No one picked him up and moved Travis there. Travis didn't happen to be strolling that direction and bump in Arbery. He brandished a weapon, stood in the road to confront Arbery, and when Arbery tried to evade him the shooter ran at him to confront him with the gun. I can't imagine much more you can do to make it any more clear to someone that you are a lethal threat.

You don't have to point the barrel of a shotgun at someone to threaten someone with it. That's a very basic thought.

You pull a gun on someone you don't have the right to use deadly force on you get slapped with something akin to assault. Chasing somone with a shotgun for 4 minutes, brandishing it to set up an armed road block the middle of a public road, and then running straight towards a pedestrian shouting orders after they attempt to runaway from you while brandishing the shotgun is plenty for that charge.

Why don't you go try it? Next time you suspect someone's committed a misdemeanor you post up in the middle of the road in front of them brandishing a shotgun and chase after them with it and see what kind of self-defense the law awards you. Man, you're really doubling down on terrible logic in this thread.

 

[cincymma79]

Can't stomach wading through all of the racial stuff surrounding this, but whatever the opinion on that, isn't this all really just an argument over whether to charge them with second degree or first degree murder? I'm okay with either outcome.

Apparently there's no second degree there. So manslaughter