AEW AEW CVI: An #AllElite Christmas

[Padre]

Beating a dead horse, AEW just doesn't feel fun anymore. Back in the good old days, everything seemed fresh. Now it is just the same crap, brought to you in a somewhat different wrapper. I think the down fall started when Cole and Bryan came in. Nothing against either of them, but that is when "OMG LOOK WHO WE BROUGHT IN!" really peaked, and it wasn't about the product anymore.

 

[Based God]

At the Worlds End media call Tony Khan once again praised RIHO for being a massive ratings draw.

This business belongs to RIHO.

 

[Based God]

<Lmaoo>

 

[Based God]

AEW ran a smaller arena in Orlando at the UCF campus last night instead of the Orlando Magic NBA arena and filled it. Maybe somebody is finally getting a clue over there. This looks a hell of a lot more aesthetically pleasing than keeping hard cam side empty.

 

[Frank23]

 

[The Clinch]

Beating a dead horse, AEW just doesn't feel fun anymore. Back in the good old days, everything seemed fresh. Now it is just the same crap, brought to you in a somewhat different wrapper. I think the down fall started when Cole and Bryan came in. Nothing against either of them, but that is when "OMG LOOK WHO WE BROUGHT IN!" really peaked, and it wasn't about the product anymore.

Yeeeah as soon as it was known that Omega would be out for a bit my interest in AEW damn near died. Now it's fucking Jericho and fucking Sammy against Hobbs & Takeshita, which is a waste of time for Hobbs & Takeshita. Or Starks and Big Bill. Or whatever random tag team has to be drug down against Jericho and Sammy.

The Classic has been mostly good, but unfortunately MJF's title run has been total ass. Samoa Joe has got to get the title to put some life back into AEW.

And Swerve's going back to the Keith Lee shit?

And all this is going on while the AEW women's division is somewhat improving. What the hell?

Tony Khan's more about "monumental game changing announcements", "industry changing signings of the hottest free agents", and creating more championships so everyone on his roster has one.. just trying to self-fellate himself with how much money he spends on his toys.

 

[Excelsior]

AEW ran a smaller arena in Orlando at the UCF campus last night instead of the Orlando Magic NBA arena and filled it. Maybe somebody is finally getting a clue over there. This looks a hell of a lot more aesthetically pleasing than keeping hard cam side empty.

I bet the energy levels were a hell of a lot higher, too.

 

[Ozymandias]

I made the call to TK and got Big Take booked.

 

[Blunderbuss]

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I made the call to TK and got Big Take booked.

This is like some sort of monkey's paw scenario

 

[Based God]

AEW posted a 5 hour 21 minute highlight reel of the Continental Classic on Youtube.

 

[Boo-urns]

<Lmaoo>

She got big titties.

 

[Blunderbuss]

I spotted that front row fat fuck wrestling fan on Dynamite and had awful flashbacks to a Daly's Place show where he tried to make it all about him. I seem to recall a few wrestlers getting in his face. Was annoyed to see he hasn't learned a lesson.

 

[Blunderbuss]

Those thick ass legs and those bare feet!

I know it is strange to say, but I think of you every time I see her out there with the dogs out. I just know it is to get the freaks like you going!

 

[Stargazer Rex]

I know it is strange to say, but I think of you every time I see her out there with the dogs out. I just know it is to get the freaks like you going!

That's why they call me The Freak of the Industry!

 

[BAM]

Beating a dead horse, AEW just doesn't feel fun anymore. Back in the good old days, everything seemed fresh. Now it is just the same crap, brought to you in a somewhat different wrapper. I think the down fall started when Cole and Bryan came in. Nothing against either of them, but that is when "OMG LOOK WHO WE BROUGHT IN!" really peaked, and it wasn't about the product anymore.

when you sell a revolution and instead bait and switch with a WWE/WCW rebrand, it's going to fall flat eventually when people figure it out.

I got with the wrestling bug again after a decade or so off, largely due to Punk going back to WWE, so I didn't watch early AEW, but I recall the way they were selling it as the alternative and a new model of the business - for the wrestlers by the wrestlers with the idea of Khan being almost a silent partner off screen. Well, we see what happened, Tony Khan took hold of creative and has a vice grip on it.

 

[BAM]

On a more positive note, the first thing I've said positively about AEW, Swerve Strickland is a potential star, just needs to tweak his in-ring style to include ring psychology and do better promos. Has presence.

saw his Chaka Khan entrance from the independents, chef's kiss, he nailed that. If he has that type of charisma in his back pocket, he can pull off a lot. Needs direction, however.

 

[Based God]

when you sell a revolution and instead bait and switch with a WWE/WCW rebrand, it's going to fall flat eventually when people figure it out.

I got with the wrestling bug again after a decade or so off, largely due to Punk going back to WWE, so I didn't watch early AEW, but I recall the way they were selling it as the alternative and a new model of the business - for the wrestlers by the wrestlers with the idea of Khan being almost a silent partner off screen. Well, we see what happened, Tony Khan took hold of creative and has a vice grip on it.

Curious what makes it a WWE/WCW rebrand? AEW does 20-30 minute "workrate" matches on TV every week, their bloody thumb tack and barbed wire hardcore matches every week, their spot fest matches every week, the talent do unscripted promos unlike WWE. Their presentation is about as far removed from WWE as you can get while still saying they're both in the same business lol

Also they never sold the company in the beginning as "Tony Khan being a silent partner". Tony Khan was front and center from the start and it was always known from the beginning he was in control of all aspects of the company, that's where the "Tony Khan must be on coke" meme came from because of how much the guy works. Tony Khan taking away the little power he did give Cody, Kenny, and the Young Bucks in the early days actually helped the company massively. Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks especially were booking some of the dumbest shit you could put on TV until Tony Khan reined them in.

 

[BAM]

Curious what makes it a WWE/WCW rebrand? AEW does 20-30 minute "workrate" matches on TV every week, their bloody thumb tack and barbed wire hardcore matches every week, their spot fest matches every week, the talent do unscripted promos unlike WWE. Their presentation is about as far removed from WWE as you can get while still saying they're both in the same business lol

Also they never sold the company in the beginning as "Tony Khan being a silent partner". Tony Khan was front and center from the start and it was always known from the beginning he was in control of all aspects of the company, that's where the "Tony Khan must be on coke" meme came from because of how much the guy works. Tony Khan taking away the little power he did give Cody, Kenny, and the Young Bucks in the early days actually helped the company massively. Cody Rhodes and the Young Bucks especially were booking some of the dumbest shit you could put on TV until Tony Khan reined them in.

mostly Cody sold it that way in his interviews at the outset. It was very much his mission statement and they trafficked in that fan goodwill. Not merely to start a new promotion, but a different kind of promotion that was wrestler-centered.

It reminded me of ECW, in trying to galvanise and embrace a group of disenfranchised fans, offering an opportunity to be part of something larger than themselves in supporting the new wave of wrestling.

From the graphics, the announcers, tournaments, round robin scoring, sports style live sports presentation - the WCW element. However, the vignettes and storylines are bad WWE. Feels like an identity crisis where on the same program they will oscillate between the two distinctly different styles - wrasslin and sports entertainment. They should commit to one or the other, imo. I'd prefer it if they went wrasslin.

 

[Based God]

mostly Cody sold it that way in his interviews at the outset. It was very much his mission statement and they trafficked in that fan goodwill. Not merely to start a new promotion, but a different kind of promotion that was wrestler-centered.

It reminded me of ECW, in trying to galvanise and embrace a group of disenfranchised fans, offering an opportunity to be part of something larger than themselves in supporting the new wave of wrestling.

From the graphics, the announcers, tournaments, round robin scoring, sports style live sports presentation - the WCW element. However, the vignettes and storylines are bad WWE. Feels like an identity crisis where on the same program they will oscillate between the two distinctly different styles - wrasslin and sports entertainment. They should commit to one or the other, imo. I'd prefer it if they went wrasslin.

Cody did the complete opposite at the beginning of the company. Cody is the main reason anyone knew who Tony Khan was back in 2019 because Cody talked about Tony Khan's passion for the business making him a good booker and shit like that. Cody never said wrestlers were running the company. It was always sold as Tony Khan would actually give wrestlers input on their own characters and creative freedom to come up with ideas for their own characters and they still do that to this day.

Wrasslin and sports entertainment being "two distinctly different styles"? They're both the same exact thing. The term Sports Entertainment was Vince McMahon wanting to call his company something different. Vince even went on Pat McAfee's show last year and Pat asked him why he calls it Sports Entertainment instead of wrestling and he said he loves wrestling and has no problem with the word despite what people say, he just wanted to set his company apart from everyone else.

Every wrestling company I've ever watched in my life has "entertainment" elements with vignettes, goofy characters, storylines etc. Is New Japan Pro Wrestling a "WWE rebrand" when they do a vignette and a storyline? Pro Wrestling NOAH in Japan which is one of the hardest hitting sports based companies in the history of the business has goofy vignettes airing regularly right now with The Great Muta living in the mountains building up to the debut of his "daughter" that started with him spitting his green mist on a baby <Lmaoo>. WWE has never been the only company that does what I'm assuming you think "sports entertainment" is.

 

[Sara]

Guys what if the devils masked men are the Von Erichs?