About the Velasquez vs Lesnar title fight.

[Baby Hanma]

I don’t know if they fought more than once. I’m talking about the upset victory where Cain beat Brock in the first round…

Joe Rogan, at some point in the fight, mentioned Brock was exhausted. So did his partner-commentator, I forgot his name, at a further time in the fight.

Maybe my OCD is on overdrive or whatever. Forgive me… So when the two were fighting, Lesnar really was exhausted, right? As in gassed out or nearly gassed out, right? And Joe and the other dude clearly noticed it? And an untrained eye like mine missed it?

Or was Cain just so good that he made Brock seem tired because of how good his technique was? Joe did say at the end that Cain’s technique overcame Brock’s brute force.

I just wanna educate myself here. I’m the strongest guy in my Judo team but I’m abysmally out of shape. It makes me wonder if Cain’s destruction of Brock would be my destiny if I keep avoiding cardio. In a sense, at least.

Thank you.

 

[mirko>anyone]

Prime Cain is a god awful match up for Brock.

Cardio for days.

Beastly wrestler.

Far more advanced striking arsenal.

That said, Lesnar is probably the most physically gifted HW I’ve seen, and exceeded initial predictions in his MMA career.

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Yes.

 

[Baal]

Prime Cain is a god awful march up for Brock.

Prime Cain is an awful matchup for everyone

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Cain on his best night (granted we didnt see it very often, sadly) was a head to head nightmare for basically anyone.

Brock deserves credit for the success he had though. He was thrown in at the deep end and did well all things considered. Who the hell fights guys like Cain, Reem, Carwin and Mir within their first 10 fights? absolutely brutal.

 

[Baby Hanma]

Yes.

Can you please elaborate?

 

[Flower2dPeople]

Can you please elaborate?

Prime Cain was a cardio machine. You were asking in another thread about conditioning for judo. There is a dedicated grappling forum here for your judo/conditioning related questions. While explosiveness is important in judo, the capacity to do it multiple times in a match is paramount. You don't want to get shido due to inactivity because you're tired.

 

[Sad Dad]

Prime Cain is an awful matchup for everyone

Except werdum. Werdum was tailored to beat Cain.

 

[rear naked ankle pick]

It wasnt really big upset tbh

 

[abject]

Except werdum. Werdum was tailored to beat Cain.

The fight was at altitude where inadequate preparation destroys cardio.

 

[loisestrad]

I don't get TS. Is he asking if improving his cardio would make him a better fighter? The answer to that question seems obvious.

Is he comparing himself to Brock?

 

[Dave Poodle]

It wasnt really big upset tbh

I remember at the time there were quite a few people looking past the Cain fight thinking JDS would be the best chance at beating Brock.

 

[Chubi]

Just post a pic of you so we can argue about how out of shape you are.

 

[Miokink026]

I remember at the time there were quite a few people looking past the Cain fight thinking JDS would be the best chance at beating Brock.

JDS would also be a bad matchup.

Great cardio (was able to almost match Velasquez), great anti wrestling, explosive power backed by elite striking.

 

[Deleted member 504083]

Except werdum. Werdum was tailored to beat Cain.

That's such a false narrative lol

Werdum was the hardest matchup for him, yes, but not tailored to beat him. Prime Cain would and should always be the favorite to win that fight outside of not acclimating properly for Mexico City.

 

[Tweak896]

People forget Lesnar had his diverculitis and never really looked the same afterwards. Not to discredit Cain's win. Lesnar returned for the Carwin fight and pretty much was blasted and it should've been stopped, he only won because Carwin's body completely shut down and he got an easy sub. I think if Lesnar didn't have that he would've looked different, but it's all speculation on my part.

 

[Beau Wring]

Prime Cain is an awful matchup for everyone

Sea Level Cain woulda kicked his ass.

 

[d2s]

Fatigue makes cowards of us all TS. Get that cardio up.

 

[Ozze]

I don't get TS. Is he asking if improving his cardio would make him a better fighter? The answer to that question seems obvious.

Is he comparing himself to Brock?

TS, is just an abysmally out of shape white boy.
Deal with it.

 

[CashMoney1991]

I member having homies over for that fight, I was one of 2 who knew Cain was gonna win, I was hyped, probably the biggest upset I have ever called although it wasn't that big compared to others, Cain had cardio, Carwin didn't and that convinced me he would beat Brock with ease, Cain had dope boxing and solid wrestling to negate Brock's, I wish Brock fought JDS as planned, JDS would of cooked him