A possible Iran war with minimal US forces on the ground

[PEDS Help me Post]

We've already covered that you're a bitch because you let drug lords do whatever they want to you and your people. You literally can't say shit.

That's a really dumb argument.

Especially since those drug lords are selling all of their drugs to the junkies in the U.S.

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

1. We have not committed crimes, and we're not giving fools like you the ability to prosecute us for crimes we didn't commit. What's the problem?

2. I bring up drugs because you love to point the finger at the US when you can't even handle your own people. You are an embarrassment. It's not about ending drugs. It's about not making it totally unchecked. When billions of dollars leave the US every year to head to narcos, that's a problem. We have a vested interest in killing those narcos. The War on Drugs sure went well in regards to Pablo Escobar. The US and Colombians made sure that fat fuck got a bullet in the head. I would love to see the narcos who own your neighborhoods and the people that work for them suffer the same fate, even if you count them among your friends and family.

Your "War on Drugs" is laughable at best.


Almost all opium production in Afghanistan was stopped by the Taliban... then the U.S. invaded. Now it supplies most of the world's opium..... and the U.S. is in an opioid crisis.

Gee, I'm sure there's no correlation though.

 

[lfd0311]

For the first time the US has the luxury to go to war without being the majority of the forces on the ground but provide with about 10-12% of the ground forces.

The Iran Nuclear deal plus Irans global ambitions and the regional unrest it has created pushed things to a point of no return. A military confrontation at this point is as certain as the white wall on your room is white.

Hold up, Iran has "Global ambitions"? List them off, real quick.

A similar campaign against the Kurds will soon enough come against Iranian IRGC regime. Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia and Malaysia will declare them as terrorist state and all the people and groups linked to it also. No U.N or International laws will be able to politically stand in the way of this intensive hunt and invasion on all individuals allied with the current IRGC led-regime and their political views and they are basically accountable for the destablization of the region and arming the houthis. They will probably declare war on them within the next 1-2 to year if not late this year. The US will mostly definitely join and take this huge opportunity to their advantage and to finally finish off a foe with the asistance of others who have issues with that same foe.

A bunch of Sunni Nations, many of whom are either allied to or beholden to the US in some way are ready to declare the only Shia power of any sort in the whole world a Terrorist State?!???! YOU DON'T SAY!?!?!?!?! For real people, just stop.

 

[Sauron]

You don't need the UN's approval to go to war with someone. That's not how that works. The UN is a centralized embassy for making treaties, not an international government where countries need to ask permission to do things. International law is just a fancy way of saying that there are agreements that we all sign on to, but if we don't follow them, our friends may look at us differently in the future. There's no World Police or government that enforces those agreements. "International Law" is really a misnomer.

You do if you want to prosecute a war with the legal blessing of the international community. You may deny that it exists, but governments the world over to sanctify it to a large extent - which is why, even if they ignore it, they still spend vast amounts of money on getting legal counsel on how best to justify their decisions.

 

[Sauron]

Iran was well within its rights to bleed the Americans in Iraq. They invaded illegally and then telegraphed their intent to 'deal' with Iran next. Any sensible country would make damn sure that their progress was checked.

 

[Rod1]

He didn't do anything illegal. You won't change that.

I guess the nazis didnt either.

Good to see 2018 people believe that the nuremberg trials and its principles were a kangaroo court and that international law isnt.a thing.

Cant commit crimes if you dont recognize any existing law.

 

[superpunch]

Seriously are you trying to use the "Mexico drug war is a failure" whataboutism? Drug wars are a failure everywhere, just like your adventures in the middle east.

Examples of whataboutisms:

"I only make $10 an hour. What about the men who make $15 an hour?"

Or like a black dude in 1950:

"I'm not allowed to walk into a store. What about the white people who are allowed to go into the store?"

Are these legitimate critiques or are they just Soviet propaganda?

 

[Seaside]

You do if you want to prosecute a war with the legal blessing of the international community. You may deny that it exists, but governments the world over to sanctify it to a large extent - which is why, even if they ignore it, they still spend vast amounts of money on getting legal counsel on how best to justify their decisions.

True

But an arab, Turkish, very large muslim coalition with US and UK support is to powerful. Russia may even abstain any complaint if us recognize Crimea end unnecessary sanction. Latin america is weak and so is non Muslim africa. Only EU voice and china will matter. Doubt India will care

 

[Seaside]

Iran was well within its rights to bleed the Americans in Iraq. They invaded illegally and then telegraphed their intent to 'deal' with Iran next. Any sensible country would make damn sure that their progress was checked.

The interest was become iran us rogue regime. Iran should of mkdernuzed but the dud nt

 

[Rod1]

Examples of whataboutisms:

"I only make $10 an hour. What about the men who make $15 an hour?"

Or like a black dude in 1950:

"I'm not allowed to walk into a store. What about the white people who are allowed to go into the store?"

Are these legitimate critiques or are they just Soviet propaganda?

Whataboutism doesnt means the whatabout is justified it simply meand deflecting criticism by saying "look over there"

 

[Rod1]

It's not about ending drugs. It's about not making it totally unchecked. When billions of dollars leave the US every year to head to narcos, that's a problem

How did i missed this gem.

If drugs were "totally unchecked" we wouldnt be having any issue whatsoever.

We dont have booze and tobacco cartels down here after all.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Your "War on Drugs" is laughable at best.


Almost all opium production in Afghanistan was stopped by the Taliban... then the U.S. invaded. Now it supplies most of the world's opium..... and the U.S. is in an opioid crisis.

Gee, I'm sure there's no correlation though.

Pretty sure most of the opioid crisis is due to synthetic opioids.

 

[JohnnySagebrush]

Pretty sure most of the opioid crisis is due to synthetic opioids.

Synthetic opioids lead for OD deaths, but heroin isn’t far behind:
https://www.drugabuse.gov/related-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates

 

[Deleted member 457759]

You holdin???

 

[PEDS Help me Post]

Pretty sure most of the opioid crisis is due to synthetic opioids.

It's due to regular opioids, synthetic opioids and semi-synthetics.

Started with a rise in opioid prescriptions, which lead to a rise in illicit opioid use once many of the prescriptions run out and people turned to heroin/fentanyl/etc. There wasn't a huge opioid crisis until there was a huge surplus of opioids and it became over-prescribed.

At one point, Purdue Pharma was even giving away coupons to doctors so they could let patients have free 30 day trials of highly addictive drugs....

 

[Deleted member 457759]

It's due to regular opioids, synthetic opioids and semi-synthetics.

Started with a rise in opioid prescriptions, which lead to a rise in illicit opioid use once many of the prescriptions run out and people turned to heroin/fentanyl/etc. There wasn't a huge opioid crisis until there was a huge surplus of opioids and it became over-prescribed.

At one point, Purdue Pharma was even giving away coupons to doctors so they could let patients have free 30 day trials of highly addictive drugs....

That's pretty bad. Sounds like the medical field has a seriously ethical problem.

 

[Beechwood]

I hope not, and doubt there will be a war with Iran.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Hold up, Iran has "Global ambitions"? List them off, real quick.



A bunch of Sunni Nations, many of whom are either allied to or beholden to the US in some way are ready to declare the only Shia power of any sort in the whole world a Terrorist State?!???! YOU DON'T SAY!?!?!?!?! For real people, just stop.

I'm fairly certain that dragonfly is a troll which is why I didn't even respond to him. I wouldn't waste too much time going at it with him.

I have my disagreements with sub_thug but he's a good poster so that's why I responded to him instead.

Also I'm somewhat surprised to see not take the anti-Iran stance here. Not that I peg you as a fan of Iran but in general I expect Iraq war vets to be anti-Iranian because of Iranian meddling in that occupation. Easy for me to clinically discuss it from a distance but I try to understand when some people might their own reasons for seeing it differently like having personally experienced Iranian interference in Iraq.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It's due to regular opioids, synthetic opioids and semi-synthetics.

Started with a rise in opioid prescriptions, which lead to a rise in illicit opioid use once many of the prescriptions run out and people turned to heroin/fentanyl/etc. There wasn't a huge opioid crisis until there was a huge surplus of opioids and it became over-prescribed.

At one point, Purdue Pharma was even giving away coupons to doctors so they could let patients have free 30 day trials of highly addictive drugs....

In South Florida where these pill pusher doctors were notoriously lax in prescribing these pills there was an increase in illegal opiod use once there was a crack down on those doctors. Makes me wonder if its better to have doctors pushing opiods than street dealers but either way the effect is, as Trump might say, "not good"

 

[Pseudo Sane]

i am not american never, dont live there not been there, and critcize american foreign policy all time. I just saying facts Iran is a terror supporter and a less worse pakistan or saudi arabia.

and i just speak fact. American military is not something underestimate. they lost what 5000 in iraq? maybe a few thousand in afghanistan and all that was from soldiers being car bombed or picked off from occupying. I saying i doubt they will occupy Iran they wont need to because of large arab and other muslim country coalition.

The Sunni states are garbage at fighting. There is zero chance of any of them managing to occupy Iran. Zero. The only way they could hope to invade Iran is with massive support from the USA.

There is a reason that the Israelis worry about the Shia states but not the Sunni ones.