Movies A Nightmare On Elm Street/Friday the 13th

[GoodBadHBK]

I did a rewatch of all of the Friday the 13th movies and Freddy vs Jason, and now I have made my way into the Nightmare on elm street franchise.




Ranked: Friday the 13th

10. Jason Goes To Hell
9. Jason X
8. A New Beginning
7. Jason Taked Manhattan
6. Part 2
5. Friday the 13th
4. New Blood
3. Jason Lives
2. The Final Chapter
1. Part 3

The original is for sure the "best" movie in the franchise but my 2 favourites are Final Chapter and Part 3. The original has the best ending in the franchise easily but the kill scenes are all the same, bad & comical. Although I did like how Kevin Bacon dies. Part 3 Is where Jason gets his iconic mask and then part 4 is with Cory Feldman. I still haven't seen the Friday the 13th remake.





Ranked: A Nightmare On Elm Street

1. Dream Warriors
2. A Nightmare on elm street
3. Wes Cravens New Nightmare
4. The Dream Master
5. Freddy's Revenge
6. The Dream Child
7. The final Nightmare
8. The Nightmare on elm street remake


The first 15 mins of Nightmare 84 is probably my pick for best opening scene to a horror movie. I never been the biggest fan of how Freddy is defeated and I think Heather was a bad actress but she does way better in Dream Warriors. Theres also the debut of Patricia Arquette who is underrated/overlooked when it comes to female leads in horror. Wes Cravens New Nightmare was a movie that terrified young me back in the mid 90s. These 3 will always be the best in the Nightmare franchise, the Heather Langenkamp trilogy.


From the poll my 5 favourite would be

1. Dream Warriors
2. Nightmare 84
3. Freddy vs Jason
4. Wes cravens new Nightmare
5. Part 3

 

[Pittie Petey]

Whats the Friday The 13th where Jason or his mom jumps through the window and grabs someone, its gotta be either 1 or 2, thats definitely my choose cause that scene scared the shit outta me as a small child, for years I was legit terrified to set on a couch that was in front of a window after I saw that scene

Sometimes I still get the heebie jeebies when Im here in the dark quiet living room setting in my Lazyboy cause I have a window right behind it, that scene legit scarred me for life!

 

[Sage NorthGOAT]

Dream Warriors is goat. I loved the booby traps as a kid. I still want to try filling a lightbulb with gunpowder

 

[GoodBadHBK]

Whats the Friday The 13th where Jason or his mom jumps through the window and grabs someone, its gotta be either 1 or 2, thats definitely my choose cause that scene scared the shit outta me as a small child, for years I was legit terrified to set on a couch that was in front of a window after I saw that scene

Sometimes I still get the heebie jeebies when Im here in the dark quiet living room setting in my Lazyboy cause I have a window right behind it, that scene legit scarred me for life!

Thats part 2.

Im scarred for life with Freddy & basements, I used to run up all basement steps probably until my early 30s lol

 

[MC Paul Barman]

Thats part 2.

Im scarred for life with Freddy & basements, I used to run up all basement steps probably until my early 30s lol

You and me both

 

[Adamant]

Both franchises range from incredibly fun to outright dogshit.

Only 5 picks between both franchises? This isn't fair! lol

I'd say the best 5 overall are probably:

(In order of release)
F13th Part 3
F13th Part 4
ANOES
ANOES Dream Warriors
Wes Craven's New Nightmare

 

[Adamant]

Whats the Friday The 13th where Jason or his mom jumps through the window and grabs someone, its gotta be either 1 or 2, thats definitely my choose cause that scene scared the shit outta me as a small child, for years I was legit terrified to set on a couch that was in front of a window after I saw that scene

Sometimes I still get the heebie jeebies when Im here in the dark quiet living room setting in my Lazyboy cause I have a window right behind it, that scene legit scarred me for life!

Part 2

Part 4

And if you want to count in general:

Part 7

 

[GoodBadHBK]

Both franchises range from incredibly fun to outright dogshit.

Only 5 picks between both franchises? This isn't fair! lol

I'd say the best 5 overall are probably:

(In order of release)
F13th Part 3
F13th Part 4
ANOES
ANOES Dream Warriors
Wes Craven's New Nightmare

Those 5 picks would be my 5 if we're sticking to just the franchises and not the freddy vs Jason movie. Freddy vs Jason actually sucks but I really dug the iconic moments when they're on screen together fighting.

Friday the 13th is pretty bad overall in terms of actual quality, but they're fun bad movies and I enjoyed all of them but goes to hell and Jason X. I even enjoyed new beginning and would have ranked it higher if they didnt do the terrible twist.

As far as the nightmare goes, the 3rd one is a top 5 horror movie for me. Most like the first one the most but to me the 3rd is best one. Its a shame Patricia didnt return for #4.

 

[Jayu Goche]

I voted for Freddy vs Jason. I find the other films to be uninspired.

 

[TheTickG]

I did a rewatch of all of the Friday the 13th movies and Freddy vs Jason, and now I have made my way into the Nightmare on elm street franchise.


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Ranked: Friday the 13th

10. Jason Goes To Hell
9. Jason X
8. A New Beginning
7. Jason Taked Manhattan
6. Part 2
5. Jason Lives
4. New Blood
3. Friday the 13th
2. The Final Chapter
1. Part 3

The original is for sure the "best" movie in the franchise but my 2 favourites are Final Chapter and Part 3. It's where Jason gets his iconic mask and then the one with Cory Feldman. I still haven't seen the Friday the 13th remake.


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Ranked: A Nightmare On Elm Street

1. Dream Warriors
2. A Nightmare on elm street
3. Wes Cravens New Nightmare
4. The Dream Master
5. Freddy's Revenge
6. The Dream Child
7. The final Nightmare
8. The Nightmare on elm street remake


The first 15 mins of Nightmare 84 is probably my pick for best opening scene to a horror movie. I never been the biggest fan of how Freddy is defeated and I think Heather was a bad actress but she does way better in Dream Warriors. Theres also the debut of Patricia Arquette who is underrated/overlooked when it comes to female leads in horror. Wes Cravens New Nightmare was a movie that terrified young me back in the mid 90s. These 3 will always be the best in the Nightmare franchise, the Heather Langenkamp trilogy.


From the poll my 5 favourite would be

1. Dream Warriors
2. Nightmare 84
3. Freddy vs Jason
4. Wes cravens new Nightmare
5. Part 3

Tough to pick.
Went with Freddy 1,3,4 and Jason 6 and 7.

I like how they broke the fourth wall when coming up with a title for Jason's ninth movie. Jason goes to hell, yes the franchise certainly went to hell with that movie.

 

[italiamusica]

I need to rewatch them as well, but I definitely agree and remember Jason Goes to Hell being the worst of the bunch.

 

[GoodBadHBK]

I need to rewatch them as well, but I definitely agree and remember Jason Goes to Hell being the worst of the bunch.

It's the one where he isnt even Jason, he transported his soul into the black guy who goes on a rampage. Its so dumb idk how it was even green lighted.

 

[Adamant]

Those 5 picks would be my 5 if we're sticking to just the franchises and not the freddy vs Jason movie. Freddy vs Jason actually sucks but I really dug the iconic moments when they're on screen together fighting.

Friday the 13th is pretty bad overall in terms of actual quality, but they're fun bad movies and I enjoyed all of them but goes to hell and Jason X. I even enjoyed new beginning and would have ranked it higher if they didnt do the terrible twist.

As far as the nightmare goes, the 3rd one is a top 5 horror movie for me. Most like the first one the most but to me the 3rd is best one. Its a shame Patricia didnt return for #4.

It probably would have been a different franchise if she returned for 4 as I doubt they would have killed the character off.

I love F13th Part 5. It's one of my favorites of that whole franchise, twist and all. It's got excellent mood and atmosphere and it's a really fun movie that actually seems like it's trying to be more deadly serious rather than comical. I love the setting and I love how messed up Tommy is and I love Reggie The Reckless. And the twist never bothered me at all. I thought it was cool.

I thought FvJ was cool the first time I saw it but it didn't hold up for me on repeat viewings. I have so many complains about that movie I could sit here for an hour writing about it. But to give you some brief cliff notes:

* - Fuck them for not bringing Kane Hodder back to play Jason. At that point, "Freddy vs Jason" went hand in hand with "Robert vs Kane". That's what everyone was expecting and wanting but the studio was too stupid to see it or care and they ruined it, all for a guy who was 6 inches taller. FvJ Jason is one of my least favorite versions of Jason of the franchise. They turned him into a sympathetic Frankenstein-esque puppy dog and it was horrible.

* - You're making a Freddy vs Jason movie and you have many great locations to choose from and return to to give us a truly authentic feeling FvJ movie, but instead of returning to any of those locations, they go shoot the movie in Canada. And thus it feels neither like a Freddy or Jason film. It feels like The Real World/Road Rules meets a goofy version of Freddy and Jason. It's pathetic considering they could have used the original ANOES house, the original high school from ANOES, or the even more creepy one from ANOES 2, the original boiler room from ANOES 1, the original Westin Hills location from Dream Warriors, and then pick any of the Camp Crystal Lakes from 1-7. Imagine they returned to the original camp location. The one from F13th Part 1. It would have been MIND BLOWING.

* - We've seen Freddy use a shit ton of different wild ass powers in previous movies, yet in FvJ the best he can do is toss Jason around in the boiler room? That's it?? Ugh.

* - Why not bring back any of the composers from either ANOES or F13th in order to give the movie an authentic sounding score? (This goes hand and hand for me with the filming locations debacle). Imagine Harry Manfredini returning to score all of the Jason bits and any of the composers from ANOES 1-5 returning to score the Freddy parts. And then they work together to create a joint score for when both killers come together. Instead, we get something generic as fuck that really doesn't sound much like it belongs in either franchise.

* - Where are the surviving characters and why aren't they a part of this versus movie??? Including them is also a big part of bringing the two icons together, and it would make total sense. Where is Tommy Jarvis? Where are Alice and Jacob? Those are the main, main characters of both franchises. Tommy for sure and Alice after Nancy and Kristen died.

* - Where are the badass rock and roll songs? I mean the songs made specifically for Freddy and Jason? They could have brought back Dream Warriors and Man Behind The Mask. Or maybe even had Dokken and Alice Cooper work on a new badass song together. But no. We got none of that. (The credits song they actually used was pretty cool but it felt more like a random general rock song rather than something made specifically for Freddy and Jason).

*- And the tone of the movie... why did they have to make it a horror/comedy (with way more emphasis on comedy)? Why couldn't they make it more dark and serious and scary? FvJ is even goofier with less mood and atmosphere than even the more playful entries in either franchise. Only Freddy's Dead tops FvJ with how stupid and goofy it is.

*- Please don't get me started on the "fear of water" thing.

So yeah, FvJ is not a movie I really care to revisit. Is it as bad as Freddy's Dead, The Remake, or JGTH, JX? No. But it feels like a hollow soulless husk of what a Freddy and Jason movie should be and I resent it for that. It's a colossal wasted opportunity and a total misfire. They had their one and only perfect chance to do it right and they absolutely blew it.

I've always fantasized about what a legit FvJ movie could have been like. Everything I mentioned above done right......man. It would have been awesome.

 

[Kingz]

No particular order

Final Chapter
Jason Takes Manhattan
Jason Goes to Hell
A Nightmare on Elm Street
New Nightmare

Most of the Freddy sequels were too camp.

I always really liked Jason Takes Manhattan for the final act for some reason. Definitely a nostalgia pick because it felt really special when I was younger binge watching Jason movies. The one where he is out of his element.

Plus one of my favorite kills



Final Chapter is probably the best of the Jason series. From a story and technical horror standpoint. Corey Feldman was very good in it, especially in the climax.

Jason goes to Hell makes the list for the same reasons Manhattan does.

Freddy vs Jason is actually a better movie but I marked out way harder for the ending shot of Jason Goes to Hell than any part of Freddy vs Jason.

The ending of Jason goes to Hell made me think Freddy vs Jason was coming out like next year. Not a decade later or whatever it was. It was like Mayweather vs Pacquio.

Nightmare on Elm Street is probably the scariest of the bunch but the sequels never really landed with me

Except until New Nightmare which went back to the original tone of the first film while giving birth to the genre saviness scary movie within a scary movie thing that defined the Scream series and slashers for the next decade+. So New Nightmare is really a landmark film that doesn’t get credit for it.

 

[crabmeat]

 

[The Solid Man]

F13th 1, 4 and ANOES 1, 3 , 7.

Heather Langenkamp

 

[GoodBadHBK]

It probably would have been a different franchise if she returned for 4 as I doubt they would have killed the character off.

I love F13th Part 5. It's one of my favorites of that whole franchise, twist and all. It's got excellent mood and atmosphere and it's a really fun movie that actually seems like it's trying to be more deadly serious rather than comical. I love the setting and I love how messed up Tommy is and I love Reggie The Reckless. And the twist never bothered me at all. I thought it was cool.

I thought FvJ was cool the first time I saw it but it didn't hold up for me on repeat viewings. I have so many complains about that movie I could sit here for an hour writing about it. But to give you some brief cliff notes:

* - Fuck them for not bringing Kane Hodder back to play Jason. At that point, "Freddy vs Jason" went hand in hand with "Robert vs Kane". That's what everyone was expecting and wanting but the studio was too stupid to see it or care and they ruined it, all for a guy who was 6 inches taller. FvJ Jason is one of my least favorite versions of Jason of the franchise. They turned him into a sympathetic Frankenstein-esque puppy dog and it was horrible.

* - You're making a Freddy vs Jason movie and you have many great locations to choose from and return to to give us a truly authentic feeling FvJ movie, but instead of returning to any of those locations, they go shoot the movie in Canada. And thus it feels neither like a Freddy or Jason film. It feels like The Real World/Road Rules meets a goofy version of Freddy and Jason. It's pathetic considering they could have used the original ANOES house, the original high school from ANOES, or the even more creepy one from ANOES 2, the original boiler room from ANOES 1, the original Westin Hills location from Dream Warriors, and then pick any of the Camp Crystal Lakes from 1-7. Imagine they returned to the original camp location. The one from F13th Part 1. It would have been MIND BLOWING.

* - We've seen Freddy use a shit ton of different wild ass powers in previous movies, yet in FvJ the best he can do is toss Jason around in the boiler room? That's it?? Ugh.

* - Why not bring back any of the composers from either ANOES or F13th in order to give the movie an authentic sounding score? (This goes hand and hand for me with the filming locations debacle). Imagine Harry Manfredini returning to score all of the Jason bits and any of the composers from ANOES 1-5 returning to score the Freddy parts. And then they work together to create a joint score for when both killers come together. Instead, we get something generic as fuck that really doesn't sound much like it belongs in either franchise.

* - Where are the surviving characters and why aren't they a part of this versus movie??? Including them is also a big part of bringing the two icons together, and it would make total sense. Where is Tommy Jarvis? Where are Alice and Jacob? Those are the main, main characters of both franchises. Tommy for sure and Alice after Nancy and Kristen died.

* - Where are the badass rock and roll songs? I mean the songs made specifically for Freddy and Jason? They could have brought back Dream Warriors and Man Behind The Mask. Or maybe even had Dokken and Alice Cooper work on a new badass song together. But no. We got none of that. (The credits song they actually used was pretty cool but it felt more like a random general rock song rather than something made specifically for Freddy and Jason).

*- And the tone of the movie... why did they have to make it a horror/comedy (with way more emphasis on comedy)? Why couldn't they make it more dark and serious and scary? FvJ is even goofier with less mood and atmosphere than even the more playful entries in either franchise. Only Freddy's Dead tops FvJ with how stupid and goofy it is.

*- Please don't get me started on the "fear of water" thing.

So yeah, FvJ is not a movie I really care to revisit. Is it as bad as Freddy's Dead, The Remake, or JGTH, JX? No. But it feels like a hollow soulless husk of what a Freddy and Jason movie should be and I resent it for that. It's a colossal wasted opportunity and a total misfire. They had their one and only perfect chance to do it right and they absolutely blew it.

I've always fantasized about what a legit FvJ movie could have been like. Everything I mentioned above done right......man. It would have been awesome.

Friday part 5 was actually a lot of up until the end, which was down right retarded. I liked the kid and the black dude from return of the living dead, the kid did a good acting and the black dude just made me lol a lot, specifically when hes in the porter potty taking a dump.

Jason vs Freddy is a bad movie I agree but it was the first Freddy movie I saw at the theater and I saw it with my older brother, so its a bit nostalgic for me. I also think the lead actress who resembles Brittany Murphy was excellent. Even Kelly Rowland was decent but I couldn't stand the rest of the cast. I did like the ending, it was satisfying for both fans of the franchises.

 

[Kardashians]

admittedly ive not watched all these films, friday the 13th is okay, but it didn't inspire me to watch another 20 films in the franchise. ive seen part 2 and freddy vs jason. hardly even remember part two tbh, except for jason's sack head.

as for nightmare on elm street i loved the first one, and do intend on watching some more. i watched new nightmare and freddy's dead last year because i had them on vhs (found at a yard sale). freddy's dead is fucking dogshit dude, god i was so pissed off watching it lol i hated everybody in that god awful film. new nightmare was a good horror film tho imo.

and on the subject of freddy vs jason, im a sucker for that one. its cheesy and fun, its so stupid but watching the final boss battle scene was fantastic. how can i hate???

 

[TribalDrumz]

I have the whole collection on pre order they are coming out on 4K!

 

[milliniar]

Jason x I love it for the sci Fi schlock most hate it for. Lol