Opinion A girl received a Draco style firearm as a Christmas gift from her parents. Thoughts?

Siver! said:
In all fairness... this is a good post.

The only thing I can't see is if a contractor might like a new sledge, etc, what kind of child might like a gun? What's that job? Like, soldier, police officer?

As you say, it's just viewpoints, but the 'gun is a tool' thing has me at that point. What do they want to do with it that's positive? I guess sports, maybe, but even then it's a stretch, especially considering from what people are saying, that weapon isn't really a sports-type weapon.

Anyway.

Your post was probably a better response than mine deserved.
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It doesn't have to be career related I was just giving some simple examples of giving a tool or a weapon as a gift and it being a perfectly normal thing to do. It can purely be a hobby thing or because you know someone will think it's cool too.

I don't know what a sports type weapon means ... not all shooting is hunting. Some people are much more into the second ammendment from a self defense perspective and people are being dramatic that Draco is more like a pistol and is more of a close quarters weapon and is a great self defense weapon and will hit targets within its range just fine. Maybe she's wanted one since she played call of duty and just thinks they are cool. Maybe she goes shooting with her dad and he has one , it's her favorite and she's always wanted one. I don't know that that's her first gun either ....maybe dad got her a bolt or lever 22 around 9 or 10 and she's been shooting for years.

Guns and shooting is a family tradition in the states for a lot of people. I think you just don't get that. What you see in that video isn't that crazy or inappropriate and likely has nothing to do with murder mayham and violence. That's also not really a "child" that's a young adult.



My kids first gun will be a bolt action 22 if he has shown me that I think he can handle it....but if it becomes a tradition for us like I hope I will likely give him something much cooler somewhere between 19and 21 like i think that girl in the video is. The positive is learning self defense skills , exercising your rights , preparedness and just straight up having fun with your friends and family.

I feel like in order to come to the conclusions you have your default setting has to be guns are bad ....if your starting point however is not that guns are bad than there is no problem and nothing to see here.
 
volodya said:
Wait whats the deal with those fucking ducks on jeep dashboards. I thought I was the only one seeing them around here and thought it was always the same person until the jeep started changing colors. Christ do those look stupid and trigger me...
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Those stupid ducks are so infuriating and it is spreading to other vehicles. It used to be just Jeeps, then it spread to other Dodge/Chrysler vehicles and now I see them in other SUV's and even cars and they are always completely across the whole dashboard. I saw a woman driving a pavement princess Jeep and she had the whole dash covered and in the middle was a giant yellow rubber duck that was the size of one of those hunting duck decoys.
 
Mr.Maelstrom said:
Bro, I had a friend who had a rickety ass hi point rifle he was weirdly proud of.
And when he eventually sold it, he traded it for a S&W 500, it's a preposterous gun that would maybe be good for a tarantino character, or going on an unsanctioned elephant hunt.

His taste in cars, his hayabusa bike...
He was far from cringe incarnate with most things.
With guns...
He couldn't help but be a fashion over function try hard type when it came to guns.
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Oh man, a sweet high point rifle. I have a buddy who has a high point 9mm carbine that he bought used at a gun shop for like $150.00 we always crack up when he pulls that thing out. An S&W 500, that is one hell of a difference from a hi point rifle. A damn hand cannon if you will. How often does he shoot it? he must not shoot if often or he has some strong ass wrists. Going with a S&W 500 is definitely gong for fashion or the look at me aspect.
 
Siver! said:
In all fairness... this is a good post.

The only thing I can't see is if a contractor might like a new sledge, etc, what kind of child might like a gun? What's that job? Like, soldier, police officer?

As you say, it's just viewpoints, but the 'gun is a tool' thing has me at that point. What do they want to do with it that's positive? I guess sports, maybe, but even then it's a stretch, especially considering from what people are saying, that weapon isn't really a sports-type weapon.

Anyway.

Your post was probably a better response than mine deserved.
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Shooting is fun, a personal challenge like golf. I grew up hunting, but I also loved the shooting side of it (which is also a very small part of hunting). Air Rifles, shotguns, rifles (dad didn't own a handhun at the time) were a blast to shoot, but ammo cost money and we lived in the suburbs, so I did a lot of archery practice in my driveway, usually an hour a day.
 
im pretty sure the woman receiving a gun in the video is a police officer..
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Just out of interest what do people get out of going to the range? As a non shooter it seems like it would be kind of a samey hobby. Like what's different about shooting at a target one week to the next?
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A hell of a good time especially a CBQ style range with steel knockdown targets.

Hell a couple of 22s and a bunch of tin can in a field that is good for shooting is a great time.
 
Hellowhosthat said:
Just out of interest what do people get out of going to the range? As a non shooter it seems like it would be kind of a samey hobby. Like what's different about shooting at a target one week to the next?
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Practice and skill improvement. Shooting is extremely fun and shooting a lot is how you get better at shooting accurately and faster. Serious shooters, especially those that compete, are shooting thousands and thousands of rounds a year.

Shooting at public ranges does get pretty boring because you are limited to your lane and your single target with no moving. But if you have land and can set up your own personal range where you can add movement and multiple targets. Plus you can shoot steel targets which is far more satisfying than shooting paper.

I love shooting and when I get the chance to go back home where I have access to private land/range, I easily shoot 500+ rounds a range day. Shooting with a timer makes it even more fun because you can see your improvement and work on getting tangibly faster.
 
Getting your children used to firearms at an early age, (both mine started at 8, I started at 5) is a good idea, since they will learn gun safety and they might be less likely to do anything stupid with it.
Better a parent teaches them gun safety then getting a gun off a buddy who probably does not know proper gun safety.
That said that girl in the video is very careless and needs to find a proper range to teach her not to recklessly swing the barrel of the weapon around. Honestly was waiting for her to accidently fire off a round and was hoping it did not hit her brother.
Meant to add, I would have gotten a different gun to start off with. Bolt action .22 was me and my kids first.
 
Gutter Chris said:
My kids first gun will be a bolt action 22 if he has shown me that I think he can handle it....but if it becomes a tradition for us like I hope I will likely give him something much cooler somewhere between 19and 21 like i think that girl in the video is. The positive is learning self defense skills , exercising your rights , preparedness and just straight up having fun with your friends and family.

I feel like in order to come to the conclusions you have your default setting has to be guns are bad ....if your starting point however is not that guns are bad than there is no problem and nothing to see here.
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Bolt action .22 was my first gun I shot. It was an old ass Remington, my Pop Pop, taught me and 3 other cousins how to shoot safely on.
When he passed away, I wanted that rifle for myself, but my cousin got it, since he had first pick. I ended up with some of ivory and custom wood carved handled knifes,. He gave me my first Buck Knife for my 8th birthday, and I have owned multiple Buck Knives since then. Which reminds me I have not bought a new Buck knife in about 10 years. Will have to head to their web site sometime this week and get a new one for camping in March.
 
koquerelle said:
I would have gotten her more education on weapons before buying her this gift. She's clearly not ready. An accident waiting to happen.
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She had poor downrange discipline. She never checked the weapon for loaded status, but she did keep her damn finger off the trigger and point it up... "mostly".

Yeah... she needs some training for sure.
 
One of the absolutely worst styles of firearm.

Big, bulky, and 7.62 is one of the worst for home defense... Which is where that gun is never going to leave.

For a girl a gun that is compact, reliable, and fits in a purse (and easily found and retrieved within a second) is best.
 
NickNick said:
Yeah, she flagged her little brother multiple times, put her hand over the muzzle, didn't check to see if the gun is clear, etc etc. No problem with the gift but gotta be more safe with it.
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Yeah the first things I was taught was always treat a weapon and loaded and never ever point it at anyone. I would've got smacked around the ear for acting like her
 
I'm not familiar with Draco's.
Didn't even know this type of firearm was available for purchase.

What was the estimated price tag for her gat?
 
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