Crime 8-Year Old Mauled To Death By Two Pitbulls

[evergreenrider]

I looked it up but AI could be wrong

It's bulldogs man. Hence the name and all. Granted, the bulldogs we know today are not the same breed originally made for said activity. It's why bulldogs have such a small muzzle, so they can still breath while latched onto the bull. -edit- The modern Bulldog was bred as a companion dog from the Old English Bulldog, a now-extinct breed used for bull-baiting, when the sport was outlawed in England under the Cruelty to Animals Act.

 

[Cajun]

It's bulldogs man. Hence the name and all. Granted, the bulldogs we know today are not the same breed originally made for said activity. It's why bulldogs have such a small muzzle, so they can still breath while latched onto the bull. -edit- The modern Bulldog was bred as a companion dog from the Old English Bulldog, a now-extinct breed used for bull-baiting, when the sport was outlawed in England under the Cruelty to Animals Act.

https://www.aspca.org/about-us/aspca-policy-and-position-statements/position-statement-pit-bulls#:~:text=Today's pit bull is a,their dogs against each other.

Looks like these as well....Anyway doesn't matter. It's about the breed.

 

[Kassitus]

Does the "no advocating genocide" rule apply to animals? They are already exterminating Grey squirrels from UK so I think it should be fair game.

 

[650lb Sumo]

Does the "no advocating genocide" rule apply to animals? They are already exterminating Grey squirrels from UK so I think it should be fair game.

No they aren't.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

And that's well before the explosion in popularity of the breed.

You do realize they were "America's dog" or considered to be our national dog & one of the most popular breeds of dogs as far back as the early 1900s right? They were even our mascot for both World Wars. There was never really a time when they weren't "popular."


-"According to a leading canine DNA testing company, the #1 most common breed found in DNA tested dogs is the American Pit Bull Terrier"
Just curious how people who have no professional experience with dog breeds and no genetic testing are able to determine dogs to be "pitbulls" just by an uninformed glance.... when in reality most of these dogs are just mixed breed non papered mutts with NO documentation.


Cane Corsos reached their peak for shit tier owners a while back. I've bred them for over 2 decades. Still have them. Once the poors found out that they had way more genetic conditions & health problems plus expensive picky dietary needs they could not sustain. Prices are even shooting back up for them.
Similar for Dogos. Once people realized they have to pay thousands for something that's super high maintenance it kind of fizzles out. Crisis somewhat aborted. You don't see either of those breeds selling anywhere near as cheap as the did 5-10 years ago. Part of that is the AKC impact too. Presa Canarios fall under this category too.

Rottweilers & Pitbulls are a bit different as they can thrive on almost any diet, have more genetic diversity & tend to be way way lower maintenance. A lot more prolific and are WAY easier to obtain for way less money.

But then still those are only the light heavy weight hysteria of breed fear mongering. Child's play.

I would love for some of these posters to be terrorized or have nightmares from gangs of:
South African Boerboels
Fila Brazileiros
Bully Kuttas
Tosa Inus
Turkish "Kangals" & all the insane Turkish Mastiff type crosses
Central Asian Ovcharkas

 

[WklySportsMemes]

It's bulldogs man. Hence the name and all. Granted, the bulldogs we know today are not the same breed originally made for said activity. It's why bulldogs have such a small muzzle, so they can still breath while latched onto the bull. -edit- The modern Bulldog was bred as a companion dog from the Old English Bulldog, a now-extinct breed used for bull-baiting, when the sport was outlawed in England under the Cruelty to Animals Act.

There are multiple separate distinct breeds of "Bulldog"
The American Bulldog was & is a working breed. Depends on the line.

The confusion lies in what we now call the American Pitbull Terrier used to be called American Bulldogs too.

 

[evergreenrider]

There are multiple separate distinct breeds of "Bulldog"
The American Bulldog was & is a working breed. Depends on the line.

The confusion lies in what we now call the American Pitbull Terrier used to be called American Bulldogs too.

Isnt there a few breeders in the south trying to, or keeping alive, the American Bulldog? I recall watching a video on it years back but it's super fuzzy at this point. Much more aggressive, generally white coat? Also viewed as problematic due to their connection to slave plantations? Or is that another breed of bulldog?

 

[evergreenrider]

You do realize they were "America's dog" or considered to be our national dog & one of the most popular breeds of dogs as far back as the early 1900s right? They were even our mascot for both World Wars. There was never really a time when they weren't "popular."


-"According to a leading canine DNA testing company, the #1 most common breed found in DNA tested dogs is the American Pit Bull Terrier"
Just curious how people who have no professional experience with dog breeds and no genetic testing are able to determine dogs to be "pitbulls" just by an uninformed glance.... when in reality most of these dogs are just mixed breed non papered mutts with NO documentation.


Cane Corsos reached their peak for shit tier owners a while back. I've bred them for over 2 decades. Still have them. Once the poors found out that they had way more genetic conditions & health problems plus expensive picky dietary needs they could not sustain. Prices are even shooting back up for them.
Similar for Dogos. Once people realized they have to pay thousands for something that's super high maintenance it kind of fizzles out. Crisis somewhat aborted. You don't see either of those breeds selling anywhere near as cheap as the did 5-10 years ago. Part of that is the AKC impact too. Presa Canarios fall under this category too.

Rottweilers & Pitbulls are a bit different as they can thrive on almost any diet, have more genetic diversity & tend to be way way lower maintenance. A lot more prolific and are WAY easier to obtain for way less money.

But then still those are only the light heavy weight hysteria of breed fear mongering. Child's play.

I would love for some of these posters to be terrorized or have nightmares from gangs of:
South African Boerboels
Fila Brazileiros
Bully Kuttas
Tosa Inus
Turkish "Kangals" & all the insane Turkish Mastiff type crosses
Central Asian Ovcharkas

Ovcharkas are also experiencing an upswing of stateside ownership to correct? Brother I don't really have a dog in this fight. Personally I'm more naturally uncomfortable around German Shepards then pits. Don't have a reason, have never been bit by em. Just have a natural distrust of em lol

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Isnt there a few breeders in the south trying to, or keeping alive, the American Bulldog? I recall watching a video on it years back but it's super fuzzy at this point. Much more aggressive, generally white coat? Also viewed as problematic due to their connection to slave plantations? Or is that another breed of bulldog?

Yes. You have to be very very careful with online sources for dogs. A lot of it is generic copy paste nonsense written by novices who have never seen the breed they are talking about in real life. Same thing with the junk statistics that get tossed around in these threads. Pseudo experts everywhere.
My Grandmother had an American Bulldog.

Here is a good resource that will generically break down the different kinds of American Bulldogs

American Bulldog Types and Blood Lines

Its also important to note that there are many fractions & subtractions of this breed. Lots of infighting and elitism from the different camps. So lots of BS & narratives.
Its not an easy breed to understand or reference. It gets a bit muddled....

 

[evergreenrider]

Yes. You have to be very very careful with online sources for dogs. A lot of it is generic copy paste nonsense written by novices who have never seen the breed they are talking about in real life. Same thing with the junk statistics that get tossed around in these threads. Pseudo experts everywhere.
My Grandmother had an American Bulldog.

Here is a good resource that will generically break down the different kinds of American Bulldogs

American Bulldog Types and Blood Lines

Its also important to note that there are many fractions & subtractions of this breed. Lots of infighting and elitism from the different camps. So lots of BS & narratives.
Its not an easy breed to understand or reference. It gets a bit muddled....

Appreciate it man. I owned an English Bulldog almost 2 decade ago now and started researching the breed. That's where I started finding out about the origin and the multiple types of bulldogs. Got very lucky avoiding the common health issues associated with the breed with him. Great dog, wouldn't ever get one again though. Tempting luck too much isn't my style lol.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Ovcharkas are also experiencing an upswing of stateside ownership to correct? Brother I don't really have a dog in this fight. Personally I'm more naturally uncomfortable around German Shepards then pits. Don't have a reason, have never been bit by em. Just have a natural distrust of em lol

I have not noticed this but there are 2 main types of Ovcharkas that are 2 different distinct breeds.

There are the Caucasian Ovcharkas & the Central Asian Ovcharka

I can count on one hand how many times I've ran into or seen either out & about in the states.

Knew a Russian guy that owned and trained both. He died though at a relatively early age.

Could be, but I'm definitely not tracking to it. But I know online & social media has made them more popular in general.

Those giant CAO reels with tiny Asian owners go viral... they always have some giant plastic fake chain on.

 

[evergreenrider]

I have not noticed this but there are 2 main types of Ovcharkas that are 2 different distinct breeds.

There are the Caucasian Ovcharkas & the Central Asian Ovcharka

I can count on one hand how many times I've ran into or seen either out & about in the states.

Knew a Russian guy that owned and trained both. He died though at a relatively early age.

Could be, but I'm definitely not tracking to it. But I know online & social media has made them more popular in general.

Those giant CAO reels with tiny Asian owners go viral... they always have some giant plastic fake chain on.

Im not seeing them in real life yet but the rapid increase of social media exposure their getting will almost certainly lead to that. While I'm guilty of it myself with my bulldog, people really should do more research before commitment to a minimum decade plus relationship. Especially when it comes to larger working or molitar style breeds. Just my opinion.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Appreciate it man. I owned an English Bulldog almost 2 decade ago now and started researching the breed. That's where I started finding out about the origin and the multiple types of bulldogs. Got very lucky avoiding the common health issues associated with the breed with him. Great dog, wouldn't ever get one again though. Tempting luck too much isn't my style lol.

No problem.
Yeah see the English bulldog was ruined from a healthy & working dog prospective. Bred more for looks and companionship for a long time. They are kind of the poster child for people breeding for certain exegrated features over function & health.

There use to be the "Leavitt" or something like that bulldog. Where the guy was trying to make smaller performance bulldogs but with the English bulldog type head & face type. Not as big as the American Bulldog. But not as low slung and stubby as the modern English Bulldog

With that being said they kind of turned out to be unique and seem to be prone to learning how to skateboard. It's freakish but interesting. The English Bulldog that is.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Im not seeing them in real life yet but the rapid increase of social media exposure their getting will almost certainly lead to that. While I'm guilty of it myself with my bulldog, people really should do more research before commitment to a minimum decade plus relationship. Especially when it comes to larger working or molitar style breeds. Just my opinion.

Plus people realize they made a mistake and didn't really want a large or XL dog a lot of the times....

XXL & XXXL dogs just are not going to catch on. IMO