5am fight time

[Jfreemandrums]

Do you guys think having a fight card from 2-5am local time affects the fighters ability to perform?

Especially seeing Leon seemingly asleep at the wheel from the moment the fight started, how much of a factor do you think that the start time of the fight plays into things?

Does 12am Edwards get ran over? Is 11pm Blaydes the owner of a new interim belt? Does it not matter because both fighters have to deal with the same issue?

 

[Domitian]

It's a personal problem if you don't adjust your sleep to the schedule imo. Everybody knew about the time difference well beforehand.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

It is the same time if they had been on a fight card in Las Vegas. Maybe it would have been smart to train in Vegas for a week or two before the fight and adjusted to the time. Fly in to the UK for the weigh ins and just kept your sleep schedule on Vegas Time.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

It's a personal problem if you don't adjust your sleep to the schedule imo. Everybody knew about the time difference well beforehand.

All true and they've done it in the Middle East too, but it's a crap idea and Dana came out cranky it seems.

You could see it coming a mile off: the UK now gets punished for a duff PPV with a mild audience, but final fight time of 5am and 14 fights is just dumb.

The UFC really shit the bed here as much as any fighter or the exhausted audience.

 

[Domitian]

All true and they've done it in the Middle East too, but it's a crap idea and Dana came out cranky it seems.

You could see it coming a mile off: the UK now gets punished for a duff PPV with a mild audience, but final fight time of 5am and 14 fights is just dumb.

The UFC really shit the bed here as much as any fighter or the exhausted audience.

Isn't the watch time basically the same for UK fans regardless? I mean, aren't you guys used to main events not starting until 5 AM or whatnot? For sure Dana shouldn't be punishing anyone because of this though.

For the fighters though, like if you tell me I'm going to have a job that starts at 5 AM in two months from now it would be silly for me to start bitching on the day of the job I'm not ready and it's too early in the morning.

 

[Nimrod]

Anyone who's been on night shifts should know that it can fuck you up.

Some people can adjust to it.

Some can't at all.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Isn't the watch time basically the same for UK fans regardless? I mean, aren't you guys used to main events not starting until 5 AM or whatnot? For sure Dana shouldn't be punishing anyone because of this though.

For the fighters though, like if you tell me I'm going to have a job that starts at 5 AM in two months from now it would be silly for me to start bitching on the day of the job I'm not ready and it's too early in the morning.

I am yeah, but I imagine there aren't too many Brits who regularly watch the whole thing live every week (except last night ironically).

It's one thing to be sat at home, it's another to be in an arena expected to be part of a buzzing atmosphere lol

The athletes, sure, but the whole idea should have been thought through. If any card should have been ten fights, it was this one. A 3 am finish isn't nearly as bad for anyone, and isn't even that wild for a night out. And the folks in America only pay for 5 fights anyway.

 

[Nimrod]

Isn't the watch time basically the same for UK fans regardless? I mean, aren't you guys used to main events not starting until 5 AM or whatnot? For sure Dana shouldn't be punishing anyone because of this though.

For the fighters though, like if you tell me I'm going to have a job that starts at 5 AM in two months from now it would be silly for me to start bitching on the day of the job I'm not ready and it's too early in the morning.

Here's a guy that's never experienced the night shift life.

It doesn't quite work out that simple.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

Anyone who's been on night shifts should know that it can fuck you up.

Some people can adjust to it.

Some can't at all.

I gotta be honest, some of these live events I'm horizontal on the coach for long periods lmao no way am I wanting to walk out of an arena at 5am to the sun rising on a Sunday.

That shit deserves pay!

 

[Domitian]

I am yeah, but I imagine there aren't too many Brits who regularly watch the whole thing live every week (except last night ironically).

It's one thing to be sat at home, it's another to be in an arena expected to be part of a buzzing atmosphere lol

The athletes, sure, but the whole idea should have been thought through. If any card should have been ten fights, it was this one. A 3 am finish isn't nearly as bad for anyone, and isn't even that wild for a night out. And the folks in America only pay for 5 fights anyway.

I like your ideas. It could have been a 10 fight card, they could have started a tad earlier, they could have paced the card faster, etc etc shit like that. It's a tough situation for UFC because ESPN only lets them hold two PPVs a year that aren't on their regular US time they want to be on.

 

[Xoleth]

Daytime Leon was born

 

[Domitian]

Here's a guy that's never experienced the night shift life.

It doesn't quite work out that simple.

I've worked night shifts before. I made sure my sleep schedule was worked out so I could do my job. These fighters were aware the time they would be fighting 2 months in advance. Are they adults or not?

 

[Nimrod]

I gotta be honest, some of these live events I'm horizontal on the coach for long periods lmao no way am I wanting to walk out of an arena at 5am to the sun rising on a Sunday.

That shit deserves pay!

Yeah completely.
Usually I try to watch as late as possible then catch the rest in the morning.

But to tell your athletes to have to basically night shift for 1 or 2 months is just fucking stupid beyond belief.

Fight camps are hard enough and punishing as they are without having to think about fighting at 5am .. it's crazy.

 

[Nimrod]

I've worked night shifts before. I made sure my sleep schedule was worked out so I could do my job. These fighters were aware the time they would be fighting 2 months in advance. Are they adults or not?

Reality isn't quite that easy my friend.

Like I said some people can't adjust to the daytime sleep stuff.

I'm one..

Been on night shifts before and had to be taken off because I was getting sleep depraved.. I just couldn't sleep day time..
And within a few days I was actually becoming dangerous.

And I'm definitely not alone.

 

[Domitian]

Reality isn't quite that easy my friend.

Like I said some people can't adjust to the daytime sleep stuff.

I'm one..

Been on night shifts before and had to be taken off because I was getting sleep depraved.. I just couldn't sleep day time..
And within a few days I was actually becoming dangerous.

And I'm definitely not alone.

It's just excuses to me, nobody outside of maybe the fighters in the title fights had to accept to be on this particular card. They literally signed and agreed. And for those 4 fighters in title fights they could have went to bed at 6 or 7 PM and still been up fresh and ready to fight at 5 AM.

 

[usernamee]

It has to suck tho to live in the UK as the champ and have to change your sleep cycle in the middle of summer when it's bright as fuck out while the US bloke can pretty much stay on his normal schedule coming in

 

[Nimrod]

It's just excuses to me, nobody outside of maybe the fighters in the title fights had to accept to be on this particular card. They literally signed and agreed. And for those 4 fighters in title fights they could have went to bed at 6 or 7 PM and still been up fresh and ready to fight at 5 AM.

Body clock cycles aren't just excuses ..

There real biological facts.

 

[Domitian]

Body clock cycles aren't just excuses ..

There real biological facts.

Ok, but if it's going to be an issue why sign the contract? I don't normally agree to things I know that will be a problem for me.

 

[Nimrod]

Ok, but if it's going to be an issue why sign the contract? I don't normally agree to things I know that will be a problem for me.

So you've never made a mistake or had to do something that doesn't quite agree with you?
These guys are giving there all.
Sometimes it doesn't work out.

 

[Domitian]

So you've never made a mistake or had to do something that doesn't quite agree with you?
These guys are giving there all.
Sometimes it doesn't work out.

How many fighters per year come into the US and fight at a time that is totally alien to their normal or preferred schedule? I get that this isn't ideal for Leon, but it's his job, and he agreed to do it.