27,000 year old pyramid?

andnowweknow said:
I like how that is just casually part of the story lol. The place is at least 50 times the size of stonehenge so its not like some small job to bury it. Nobody disagrees that it was purposely buried either...the scientists just don't address it other than to note it as a fact...but lay people like us read it and are like "wait...what? Why?!"...meanwhile the scientists just continue talking about charcoal and shit and I'm like "hey dudes, go back to who the fuck buried it and fucking WHY!? You're scaring me<45>"...
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FACTS!! People don’t bury shit for fun. Motherfuckers out there releasing Pazuzu or some shit…….
 

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andnowweknow said:
I like how that is just casually part of the story lol. The place is at least 50 times the size of stonehenge so its not like some small job to bury it. Nobody disagrees that it was purposely buried either...the scientists just don't address it other than to note it as a fact...but lay people like us read it and are like "wait...what? Why?!"...meanwhile the scientists just continue talking about charcoal and shit and I'm like "hey dudes, go back to who the fuck buried it and fucking WHY!? You're scaring me<45>"...
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I'm curious as if it proves societies existed 25k years ago then that throws all we know out window and gives support for current Fri ge thoughts that Giza is much older than folks have said. At least the Sphinx.

However if really was buried thousands of years ago........ not easy to bury a Pyrsmid on a fucking mountain it was done for a reason if it reallyvwas buried maybe just leave it be
 
Streeter said:
I'm curious as if it proves societies existed 25k years ago then that throws all we know out window and gives support for current Fri ge thoughts that Giza is much older than folks have said. At least the Sphinx.

However if really was buried thousands of years ago........ not easy to bury a Pyrsmid on a fucking mountain it was done for a reason if it reallyvwas buried maybe just leave it be
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No, it is Gobekli Tepe that has artificial fill, IE, it was intentionally buried by humans for some reason yet unknown. There is no suggestion that anything was intentionally covered up at Gunung Padang (I don't think).

Modern humans (us) are at least 300k years old I believe as we currently understand it, much older if you consider Neanderthal, Denisovan, and what are likely a myriad of other species closely related to us that may actually have behaved and had capability very similar to our own. There is no evidence that the motivations have changed with respect to human nature, we innovate and we do all the things that we have today. The reason we don't know a lot about what humans were doing pre Sumer/Egypt is because the planet was fucked sideways at the Pleistocene/Holocene transition roughly 12,800 years before present. There was a major large land mammal extinction where half the species of mammals over 100lbs in body weight disappeared, animals that had existed literally for millions of years prior...the notion that whatever happened to cause this would not have catastrophically affected humans as well is ridiculous.

One thing to consider when pondering why civilization might have been inhibited...the holocene, our epoch of time, is the most benign, longest unbroken interglacial period on record in at least the last 250k years...so that might provide insight into why there is no evidence of a past civilization like our own. But, other "advanced" civilization may have evolved and gone by the wayside without leaving much of a trail, their advancements may have simply been on a different track than our own.
 
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MicroBrew said:
It's bollocks.
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Here is a good refutation on Nature's site...

www.nature.com

A 27,000-year-old pyramid? Controversy hits an extraordinary archaeological claim

The massive buried structures at Gunung Padang in Indonesia would be much older than Egypt’s great pyramids — if they’re even human constructions at all.
www.nature.com www.nature.com

This is the same sort of thing, mind you, that was going on back in the day regarding Robert Schoch suggesting the Sphinx was way older that 5k years old...the refutations at the time were sparky nonsense similar to what is happening here...they said of the Sphinx age, "there is nothing in the world of the age you are suggesting with respect to the Sphinx being 12k+ years old, how can the Sphinx be the only thing that old"...

...of course then the argument against a much older Shinx suddenly changes when a super sophisticated site like Gobekli Tepe pops up that's more than twice as old as Stonehenge.
 
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If there was a civilization that old and they died out, most everything about them would have gone to dust by now. This pyramid just happened to have been preserved via burial.

Completely possible there were civilizations in 25,000 BC.
 
andnowweknow said:
The idea is that it was probably some sort of mound that has been built upon by humans, definitely by humans. How deep into the mound that extends is what they are trying to sort out, but there are open spaces within it.
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3 distinct rectangle shapes . We're found by radar/sonar (whatever they used). Doubt there's not something to it.

Only thing g about world I know is nobody really knows shit
Hog-train said:
If there was a civilization that old and they died out, most everything about them would have gone to dust by now. This pyramid just happened to have been preserved via burial.

Completely possible there were civilizations in 25,000 BC.
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Only thing that would hold its form that Ling an be recognizable would be gold as that just doesn't break down or does over millions of years not thousands. The fact modern human have lived for hundreds of thousands of years it's very plausible there was societies 27000 years ago . But the entire planet chsnged n there was a massive flood everywhere. So much of the planet changed during last ice age it's possible it was just lost.
 
Is there an Ancient Aliens episode on this yet?

I think we should somehow print our finest internet porn in stainless steel for future generations.
 
Listen. Facts are, the so called "experts" are still unsure who exactly or even how the pyramids of Giza were built. A 27,000 year old one?

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Every time I see a new discovery. The more I think of Prometheus and Aliens visiting and studying the naked apes, lol.
 
I think it's possible, indeed probable, that we are a species with amnesia; that we've lost the record of our story going back thousands of years before so-called history began, and I think that if we could go back to that dark epoch, we would discover many astounding things about ourselves. ---Graham Hancock
 
andnowweknow said:
No, it is Gobekli Tepe that has artificial fill, IE, it was intentionally buried by humans for some reason yet unknown. There is no suggestion that anything was intentionally covered up at Gunung Padang (I don't think).

Modern humans (us) are at least 300k years old I believe as we currently understand it, much older if you consider Neanderthal, Denisovan, and what are likely a myriad of other species closely related to us that may actually have behaved and had capability very similar to our own. There is no evidence that the motivations have changed with respect to human nature, we innovate and we do all the things that we have today. The reason we don't know a lot about what humans were doing pre Sumer/Egypt is because the planet was fucked sideways at the Pleistocene/Holocene transition roughly 12,800 years before present. There was a major large land mammal extinction where half the species of mammals over 100lbs in body weight disappeared, animals that had existed literally for millions of years prior...the notion that whatever happened to cause this would not have catastrophically affected humans as well is ridiculous.

One thing to consider when pondering why civilization might have been inhibited...the holocene, our epoch of time, is the most benign, longest unbroken interglacial period on record in at least the last 250k years...so that might provide insight into why there is no evidence of a past civilization like our own. But, other "advanced" civilization may have evolved and gone by the wayside without leaving much of a trail, their advancements may have simply been on a different track than our own.
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so a meteor hit earth 12,800, years ago, wiping out most of humanity . how long would anything we have today last over tens of thousands of years? not very long. buildings break down on a daily basis without constant maintenance. so say 1000 years, wed' see nothing
 
andnowweknow said:
Here is a good refutation on Nature's site...

www.nature.com

A 27,000-year-old pyramid? Controversy hits an extraordinary archaeological claim

The massive buried structures at Gunung Padang in Indonesia would be much older than Egypt’s great pyramids — if they’re even human constructions at all.
www.nature.com www.nature.com

This is the same sort of thing, mind you, that was going on back in the day regarding Robert Schoch suggesting the Sphinx was way older that 5k years old...the refutations at the time were sparky nonsense similar to what is happening here...they said of the Sphinx age, "there is nothing in the world of the age you are suggesting with respect to the Sphinx being 12k+ years old, how can the Sphinx be the only thing that old"...

...of course then the argument against a much older Shinx suddenly changes when a super sophisticated site like Gobekli Tepe pops up that's more than twice as old as Stonehenge.
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There is no evidence this supposed pyramid is anywhere near 27K old. As the Nature article states the conclusions reached by the paper, published by the journal Archaeological Prospection, isn't justified by the data available.

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Archaeological Prospection and its publisher, Wiley, have since launched an investigation into the paper.
 
I like speculating on the reasons why someone would know that the The Great Pyramid is a mechanical device (ie there was a relatively advanced global civilization, essentially lost or wiped out from official history), but keep that information hidden.

If it's a secret, why aren't we allowed to know, and who's keeping it that way?
 
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