Elections 26 FBI Informants Present on Jan 6

[LangfordBarrow]

Do you have any evidence Trump did any of that?
Cause, y'know, the DOJ was already weaponized against him for way less.

Weaponized DoJ? Is that when the President directs the AG to investigate his opponents?

 

[calavera2]

Nice double yellows mr personal accountability.

Hey I'm innocent I swear...you maga doggers are worse snitches than the FBI

 

[Islam Imamate]

What's annoying too is that it's been years of Trumpers saying some variation of "durr, they people expect the shaman to declare himself president," having the whole scheme explained, and then going back to playing dumb. It's just like the Russian hacking. "What did Russia do? Just bought some ads on FB?" "No, they hacked private emails and disseminated them in a way designed to help Trump." "OK so just a few FB ads?" Just tiring game dealing with brick-headed hacks.

Tbh I sort of get it because to understand the scheme one needs to be intimately familiar with these esoteric constitutional processes Trump was trying to exploit. So just to explain what Trump did that was wrong requires going through the nature of the electoral college and the certification process which are not things most Americans are aware of. Before Trump's attempted coup I myself had no idea what went on during Jan 6th and I'm sure most Americans are the same.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Tbh I sort of get it because to understand the scheme one needs to be intimately familiar with these esoteric constitutional processes Trump was trying to exploit. So just to explain what Trump did that was wrong requires going through the nature of the electoral college and the certification process which are not things most Americans are aware of. Before Trump's attempted coup I myself had no idea what went on during Jan 6th and I'm sure most Americans are the same.

True but it's also obvious some just don't want to know so they can keep worshipping their hero.

 

[Darkballs]

He's Scottish

I'll note the correction.

Christ, could you imagine if they remade Braveheart for modern times?
Scene 1:
"Edward the Longshanks is marching into our land!"
Scene 2:
::::57 Scottish men break into London Castle and start blowing him::::
Fin.

 

[Strychnine]

I cannot stress enough that your second hand grifting doesn’t work. Nobody wants to see whatever southern leftist you think will work as propaganda for the 1000th time. Make your point or don’t. If you aren’t getting paid to shill these people, it’s even more embarrassing for you.

 

[ShadowRun]

With protests maybe but not with invasion and overthrow. It may delay it for a few days but ultimately it would accomplish nothing.

No bro you don't understand if they were able to convince Mike Pence not to certify it nothing would happen after. Trump would be president forever because logic or something ..... reeeeeeeeeeee

 

[Cajun]

Trump delayed his trial long enough that now he doesn't have to worry about it. His voters weren't jurors examining the evidence to make a judgement.

But even the charges weren't brought until he started to run at the end of 2023.... seems political imo...

 

[Cajun]

The report stated there were 3 CI's directed there. Doesn't seem like much of a CT. And if the FBI is corrupt and needs to be gutted why would they further a plan to keep Trump in office after he already lost the election. They didn't back his claims of election fraud but for some reason they wanted to help keep him in power?

The report is all that we have atm but may not be complete. They waited 4 years to even bring out this report... the whole thing seems fishy and I'm not even pushing the CT. But they knew this would accomplish nothing to keep Trump in power. Do I think these few idiots would "pressure" congress to do what they wanted after breaking the law etc? Nope... the extreme case would be the military and police decend and capture or kill all of them. There was no good outcome and accomplish absolutely nothing...

 

[Cajun]

No bro you don't understand if they were able to convince Mike Pence not to certify it nothing would happen after. Trump would be president forever because logic or something ..... reeeeeeeeeeee

This is what it feels like we are getting to... these idiots were gonna pressure congress to act and the result was going to he Trump stays in office for 4 more years.... seems completely feasible....this has to be up there with flat earthers...

 

[LangfordBarrow]

But even the charges weren't brought until he started to run at the end of 2023.... seems political imo...

He's been running the whole time. This is a major case with a lot of evidence to be verified before bringing to trial. What about Cannon's actions regarding the document case, that case was more straight forward, do you think she acted politically there?

 

[LangfordBarrow]

The report is all that we have atm but may not be complete. They waited 4 years to even bring out this report... the whole thing seems fishy and I'm not even pushing the CT. But they knew this would accomplish nothing to keep Trump in power. Do I think these few idiots would "pressure" congress to do what they wanted after breaking the law etc? Nope... the extreme case would be the military and police decend and capture or kill all of them. There was no good outcome and accomplish absolutely nothing...

First of all they have the proof. They have the notes. They have the indictments. They have confessions and guilty pleas. It was a real plan formulated by them.

Next, it hasn't even been 4 years since 1/6/21, why would you exaggerate something like that? He's was charged a year and a half ago. Maybe they would have let him skate if he didn't run again, the way they did with Nixon whose crimes were less severe, but obviously not after they found the extent of the Top Secret documents he stole and the extent of his interference in returning them.

It doesn't matter if you think it would have worked or not, the events actually occurred, it's a scheme that was drafted by people in his inner circle and that led to state legislatures actually sending out Fake Electors while Trump held a rally at that exact place and time and literally called on Pence to go along with it and directed the rally goers to the Capitol.

Allied groups like the PBs and the OKs were prepared and led the breach at the Capitol. They chanted hang Pence for not being strong enough to "do what's right" and you know the rest. It's fucking laughable bro after all that instigation that 3 CIs on the clock with the FBI were the ones that riled everyone up because otherwise it would have just been a peaceful protest. I mean for goodness sake, when the PBs got there they immediately started tearing down the barricades, some poor female cop got knocked out within minutes.

 

[Cajun]

He's been running the whole time. This is a major case with a lot of evidence to be verified before bringing to trial. What about Cannon's actions regarding the document case, that case was more straight forward, do you think she acted politically there?

So it just happens to finish just before the election year? It shouldn't take 3 years to gather the evidence to charge imo.... I can't speak to the points she made in the dismissal but I can say that I have a hard time finding instances when something is not political these days.

 

[Cajun]

First of all they have the proof. They have the notes. They have the indictments. They have confessions and guilty pleas. It was a real plan formulated by them.

Next, it hasn't even been 4 years since 1/6/21, why would you exaggerate something like that? He's was charged a year and a half ago. Maybe they would have let him skate if he didn't run again, the way they did with Nixon whose crimes were less severe, but obviously not after they found the extent of the Top Secret documents he stole and the extent of his interference in returning them.

It doesn't matter if you think it would have worked or not, the events actually occurred, it's a scheme that was drafted by people in his inner circle and that led to state legislatures actually sending out Fake Electors while Trump held a rally at that exact place and time and literally called on Pence to go along with it and directed the rally goers to the Capitol.

Allied groups like the PBs and the OKs were prepared and led the breach at the Capitol. They changed hang Pence for not being strong enough to "do what's right" and you know the rest. It's fucking laughable bro after all that instigation that 3 CIs on the clock with the FBI were the ones that riled everyone up because otherwise it would have just been a peaceful protest. I mean for goodness sake, when the PBs got there they immediately started tearing down the barricades, some poor female cop got knocked out within minutes.

It would have been the silliest scheme of all time imo... yes... let's take on the govt and try to force them to give it to trump. That is literally silly and seems like a mel brooks movie. Again, how much could that have affected the outcome? Delay how long?? Outside of taking it to court that would be the only strategy here. To think that a few idiots could hold hostage the election and force/convince congress is ridiculous.

We now have the information now that 26 cis were present officially "off the clock" but who knows the truth. This just came out after the election which is weird. That may come out. I'm not saying that they might have had a peaceful protest besides but there were some weird videos inside the capital and interactions with capital police that looked weird. Now your getting me to defend a conspiracy that I don't want to haha. Until more evidence comes out I'd just rather wait. The only thing I know about the govt is that they do plenty of shady things domestically and globally. But until something comes out then why would I draw any conclusions.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

This is what it feels like we are getting to... these idiots were gonna pressure congress to act and the result was going to he Trump stays in office for 4 more years.... seems completely feasible....this has to be up there with flat earthers...

Their plot did not depend on the rioters pressuring anyone. That you're even making this claim makes me think you haven't looked into the indictments and the evidence they have of the plot they developed. And once again, even if it was a plot that was destined to fail, it's a crime they attempted. Bozo criminals that get caught because they're morons still get charged for their crimes.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

So it just happens to finish just before the election year? It shouldn't take 3 years to gather the evidence to charge imo.... I can't speak to the points she made in the dismissal but I can say that I have a hard time finding instances when something is not political these days.

Jack Smith was assigned in September, '22 and Trump was indicted August, '23. Mar-a-Lago was was raided August, '22. If it was delayed for political reasons it allowed Trump to delay enough to get elected but it doesn’t make him innocent.

 

[Cajun]

Their plot did not depend on the rioters pressuring anyone. That you're even making this claim makes me think you haven't looked into the indictments and the evidence they have of the plot they developed. And once again, even if it was a plot that was destined to fail, it's a crime they attempted. Bozo criminals that get caught because they're morons still get charged for their crimes.

I didn't say they shouldn't. Even IF encouraged by someone I'm not entering the capital etc. Yes regardless they did it of their own volition.

 

[Cajun]

Jack Smith was assigned in September, '22 and Trump was indicted August, '23. Mar-a-Lago was was raided August, '22. If it was delayed for political reasons it allowed Trump to delay enough to get elected but it doesn’t make him innocent.

Even the left pundits said they started this too late (most of these cases) and should have started much earlier if it was going have an affect.

 

[Islam Imamate]

But even the charges weren't brought until he started to run at the end of 2023.... seems political imo...

If the charges were brought immediately you'd probably also being saying it was political.

Their plot did not depend on the rioters pressuring anyone. That you're even making this claim makes me think you haven't looked into the indictments and the evidence they have of the plot they developed. And once again, even if it was a plot that was destined to fail, it's a crime they attempted. Bozo criminals that get caught because they're morons still get charged for their crimes.

Yup, the rioting was a bonus that Trump used to further pressure lawmakers but if Pence was on board there would be no need for the rioting.

It would have been the silliest scheme of all time imo... yes... let's take on the govt and try to force them to give it to trump. That is literally silly and seems like a mel brooks movie. Again, how much could that have affected the outcome? Delay how long?? Outside of taking it to court that would be the only strategy here. To think that a few idiots could hold hostage the election and force/convince congress is ridiculous.

Just because its a silly scheme that probably wouldn't have worked doesn't mean the scheme wasn't attempted.

Very little of this is speculation btw, there's mountains of evidence that Trump was trying to overturn the election. Here's a YT video of his fake electors trying to get into the Michigan Capitol and being denied by the police and here's a phone call Trump made to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger trying to get him to overturn the Georgia election results. All of this is part of the lead up to Jan 6th.

We now have the information now that 26 cis were present officially "off the clock" but who knows the truth. This just came out after the election which is weird. That may come out. I'm not saying that they might have had a peaceful protest besides but there were some weird videos inside the capital and interactions with capital police that looked weird. Now your getting me to defend a conspiracy that I don't want to haha. Until more evidence comes out I'd just rather wait. The only thing I know about the govt is that they do plenty of shady things domestically and globally. But until something comes out then why would I draw any conclusions.

What exactly are you implying here? You're saying the "government" does shady things but find it unbelievable that Trump, the head of the government at the time btw, was trying to do the thing he said for months he was trying to do?

So it just happens to finish just before the election year? It shouldn't take 3 years to gather the evidence to charge imo.... I can't speak to the points she made in the dismissal but I can say that I have a hard time finding instances when something is not political these days.

What makes you say that? You don't think there's maybe some special consideration when charging a former president? If anything Merrick Garland seems to have delayed the investigation in part to avoid the appearance of it being political and yet in the end it didn't matter, folks like you were going to see it as political either way. At the end of the day Trump is your guy so there's probably no amount of evidence I could present to you that would make you even consider the possibility that Trump was attempting a coup despite the fact that he admits he was trying to overturn the election and prevent the peaceful transfer of power for months beforehand.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

It would have been the silliest scheme of all time imo... yes... let's take on the govt and try to force them to give it to trump. That is literally silly and seems like a mel brooks movie. Again, how much could that have affected the outcome? Delay how long?? Outside of taking it to court that would be the only strategy here. To think that a few idiots could hold hostage the election and force/convince congress is ridiculous.

We now have the information now that 26 cis were present officially "off the clock" but who knows the truth. This just came out after the election which is weird. That may come out. I'm not saying that they might have had a peaceful protest besides but there were some weird videos inside the capital and interactions with capital police that looked weird. Now your getting me to defend a conspiracy that I don't want to haha. Until more evidence comes out I'd just rather wait. The only thing I know about the govt is that they do plenty of shady things domestically and globally. But until something comes out then why would I draw any conclusions.

You're free to have your opinion, we can just agree to disagree, we can move on and continue to enjoy ourselves busting @Yorick the Wiser chops in the lounge.