International 248 people, 66 children Palestinian dead after "Apartheid state" Israel launches airstrikes in Gaza

Mahmoud Ishtiwi
that's the same guy silly
Well, not necessarily. Chinese and russian news are even less trustworthy than Western media. I dont know any african media and honestly dont care. With regards to remaining relevant (meaning economic Power or big Population) countries, this leaves us with India, which I dislike due to their caste system. American/ british and German media generally cover topics that I care about, except they are often ridiculously biased, leading to me trying to find somewhat less biased POVs.So in that Sense you may be Right that one would have a only a Limited POV if He only read the Same media day in and day out. BTW I supported my armenian Brothers as well.
Again, I respect your bold ignorance and am not condemning it in anyway.
 
Kind of feels like this conflict is entering the endgame. Putting aside the issues of morality, history, religion, and everything else that makes this a powder-keg issue, the reality on the ground has drastically changed since the last flare up of violence between these two sides.

Israel no longer has an immediate existential threat on its borders. Syria has been destroyed by civil war. The Egyptians overthrew Mubarak, the military overthrew Morsi, and irrespective of the peace treaty, Egypt cannot afford a conflict when its own internal situation is unstable. Beirut literally blew up due to Lebanese corruption and incompetence. Hell, the Lebanese were actually asking Macron to come back and reestablish colonial rule. Hezbollah, whose finances have been decimated by its participation in the Syrian Civil War, is not in about to risk its support, power and position within the Lebanese political/social/economic system with a war with Israel, which most Lebanese would be against. The Gulf Countries are more focused on diversifying their economies, and countering Iranian and Turkish influence in the region. In that region, Israel is actually the country best suited to help them accomplish those goals; UAE and Bahrain normalized relations with Israel and the Saudis have had a low-key on the dl relationship with the Israelis for a while now. Jordan was never a threat. The Iranians do not share a land border with Israel, its proxy forces in Syria by themselves are no threat. It's proxies in Iraq are too far. The only meaningful threat they have to the Israelis is their nuclear program, which will either be dealt with diplomatically or militarily.

Without an existential threat to its existence and survival, the Israelis have no reason to negotiate or make a peace deal with the Palestinians. The Israelis will continue to build settlements in the West Bank unabated.
 
that's the same guy silly

And he doesnt count because...?
Obviously not a lot of executions going around seeing how people are not living openly and hiding their orientation until they can escape or just live in hiding. There was even a huge deal there with israeli intelligence agencies using that knowledge as leverage on people to gain info. Its not some huge secret this whole thing.
 
And he doesnt count because...?
Obviously not a lot of executions going around seeing how people are not living openly and hiding their orientation until they can escape or just live in hiding. There was even a huge deal there with israeli intelligence agencies using that knowledge as leverage on people to gain info. Its not some huge secret this whole thing.
Well, if you can only name one guy, I think my chances of being "the first to be hanged had I lived among Palestinians in the wb and gaza" is actually pretty low!
 
Well, if you can only name one guy, I think my chances of being "the first to be hanged had I lived among Palestinians in the wb and gaza" is actually pretty low!
If you lived in hiding and never revealed your orientation yeah sure, but if you were openly gay? I welcome you to ask anyone who has ever lived in the area what would be the repercussions of that, it will probably look more like this:
https://www.out.com/crime/2019/12/03/videos-surface-brutal-attack-palestinian-gay-men-trans-woman
 
I don't know, I think it was pretty foolish of Hamas to launch a rocket strike and think shit wasn't going to hit the fan.

Personally I stand with Israel and their fight against Hamas terrorists.
 
you make it sound like its the holocaust for palestinians when its more of a population transfer.
It's ethnic cleansing. "Population transfer" makes it sound soo innocuous.

The only people who are getting forcibly moved are Palestinians. Israel already committed ethnic cleansing when they kicked many Palestinians out to form Israel.
 
I don't know, I think it was pretty foolish of Hamas to launch a rocket strike and think shit wasn't going to hit the fan.

Personally I stand with Israel and their fight against Hamas terrorists.
Nor do i think it was a wise decision to evict palestinians. Let alone killing innocent children.
 
Feel for all the innocent people involved in this garbage. I feel like both sides are as bad as each other but at the same time I’m very much an eye for an eye kinda guy.
 
Judaism and Islam are missing the “care about and love your enemies” part of Faith.. It shows. Without it, there is no forgiveness and never ending conflict.
 
I believe it is over 1000 rockets fired during the last 24 hours which is unprecedented intensity. Compare that to 2014 when it was some 4000-5000 rockets fired during the 6 week "war".

I have to say that I am quite suprised that atleast so far I have seen no use of drones from Palestinian factions which I think they should be capable of producing/assembling and should be able to evade detection more easily than high flying rockets.


That Iron Dome was game changing.
Kind of feels like this conflict is entering the endgame. Putting aside the issues of morality, history, religion, and everything else that makes this a powder-keg issue, the reality on the ground has drastically changed since the last flare up of violence between these two sides.

Israel no longer has an immediate existential threat on its borders. Syria has been destroyed by civil war. The Egyptians overthrew Mubarak, the military overthrew Morsi, and irrespective of the peace treaty, Egypt cannot afford a conflict when its own internal situation is unstable. Beirut literally blew up due to Lebanese corruption and incompetence. Hell, the Lebanese were actually asking Macron to come back and reestablish colonial rule. Hezbollah, whose finances have been decimated by its participation in the Syrian Civil War, is not in about to risk its support, power and position within the Lebanese political/social/economic system with a war with Israel, which most Lebanese would be against. The Gulf Countries are more focused on diversifying their economies, and countering Iranian and Turkish influence in the region. In that region, Israel is actually the country best suited to help them accomplish those goals; UAE and Bahrain normalized relations with Israel and the Saudis have had a low-key on the dl relationship with the Israelis for a while now. Jordan was never a threat. The Iranians do not share a land border with Israel, its proxy forces in Syria by themselves are no threat. It's proxies in Iraq are too far. The only meaningful threat they have to the Israelis is their nuclear program, which will either be dealt with diplomatically or militarily.

Without an existential threat to its existence and survival, the Israelis have no reason to negotiate or make a peace deal with the Palestinians. The Israelis will continue to build settlements in the West Bank unabated.
Yeah that's a good point, at this point the Israelis are just going to slowly cleanse the remaining Palestinians off of any land that has value, whether its economic value or cultural value, and then push them onto some barren rock where they can create the fiction of self governance.
 
Kind of feels like this conflict is entering the endgame. Putting aside the issues of morality, history, religion, and everything else that makes this a powder-keg issue, the reality on the ground has drastically changed since the last flare up of violence between these two sides.

Israel no longer has an immediate existential threat on its borders. Syria has been destroyed by civil war. The Egyptians overthrew Mubarak, the military overthrew Morsi, and irrespective of the peace treaty, Egypt cannot afford a conflict when its own internal situation is unstable. Beirut literally blew up due to Lebanese corruption and incompetence. Hell, the Lebanese were actually asking Macron to come back and reestablish colonial rule. Hezbollah, whose finances have been decimated by its participation in the Syrian Civil War, is not in about to risk its support, power and position within the Lebanese political/social/economic system with a war with Israel, which most Lebanese would be against. The Gulf Countries are more focused on diversifying their economies, and countering Iranian and Turkish influence in the region. In that region, Israel is actually the country best suited to help them accomplish those goals; UAE and Bahrain normalized relations with Israel and the Saudis have had a low-key on the dl relationship with the Israelis for a while now. Jordan was never a threat. The Iranians do not share a land border with Israel, its proxy forces in Syria by themselves are no threat. It's proxies in Iraq are too far. The only meaningful threat they have to the Israelis is their nuclear program, which will either be dealt with diplomatically or militarily.

Without an existential threat to its existence and survival, the Israelis have no reason to negotiate or make a peace deal with the Palestinians. The Israelis will continue to build settlements in the West Bank unabated.

Miscalculation killed the priest' wife and also once a wild fire gets out of control it can't be managed and bound to spiral out of control and becomes unpredictable setting everything on fire.. They are not unabated they know this and Its an emotional region.. You can be friends with someone and enter ww3 tomorrow against them if you don't play your cards right..

Why do you think they haven't messed with al-aqsa all this time. Because they know.. It is an act of war and red line Israel can't cross this was just an early taste.. If things doesn't de-escalate the entire region could explod and it is not to far fatched to think incursions against Israel happening.. Just very unpredictable depends on how much its spirals out of control
 
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Those 2 religions are both nuts.

But atleast one of them isn't pulling a crime wave on Western Europe
Judaism and Islam are missing the “care about and love your enemies” part of Faith.. It shows. Without it, there is no forgiveness and never ending conflict.
Boiling it to down to a religious conflict misses the whole point. There are Palestinian Christians and they get evicted all the same. Its a conflict between a settler-colonist movement and the native inhabitants that they deem impure.
 
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Apperanty some got through the iron dome

Footage out there
 
only peace coming in the region will be when the Prince of Peace comes back

until then theyre gonna keep on murdering each other
 
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