International 248 people, 66 children Palestinian dead after "Apartheid state" Israel launches airstrikes in Gaza

[TheWave111]

These Hamas/Palestinian bastards will hide behind women, children and the handicapped so when they start shit and a child gets caught in the crossfire, they and the media can perpetuate this narrative that the Israelis are brutal child killers.

Propaganda of Israel.

 

[DoctorDeelon]

Propaganda of Israel.

"Debunked" by Abby Martin, creator of the documentary "Gaza Fights for Freedom".

Perhaps we should also ask a KKK wizard how to solve race relations in the US? lol smh...

 

[gluehuffer1776]

Absorb all Palestinians as full citizens.
One state solution.
Abandon the idea of a "Jewish State" and Zionist Politics since that is the source of Crimes Against Humanity.
Rename the nation "Palestine".

This is much more of a situation of settlers vs indigenous people, than of religion. Except, some of the settlers are descendants of indigenous people who were separated from their land and wanted to go home. All of the problems stem from British colonialism and the things which British colonialism established in the region. Every "Legal" argument which creates hell goes back to legaleeze that the British imposed. The solution is to empower all indigenous people. Those long standing natives and the descendants of the natives who were separated from the land.

This guy has some interesting ideas.

If white Europeans arent allowed their own areas and states why should the Jews?

 

[TheWave111]

I think he's either Nation of Islam or Black Israelite... haven't decided yet.

Israel is similar to nation of islam and black Israelites. I'm not any of them. These are racist groups.
Even in this you can't be consistent.
The religion of Judaism is exactly like nations of islam and black Israelites. They all claim racial superiority.
I haven't seen you complain about it. We both know why.

 

[TryggeTryggvar]

Absorb all Palestinians as full citizens.
One state solution.
Abandon the idea of a "Jewish State" and Zionist Politics since that is the source of Crimes Against Humanity.
Rename the nation "Palestine".

This is much more of a situation of settlers vs indigenous people, than of religion. Except, some of the settlers are descendants of indigenous people who were separated from their land and wanted to go home. All of the problems stem from British colonialism and the things which British colonialism established in the region. Every "Legal" argument which creates hell goes back to legaleeze that the British imposed. The solution is to empower all indigenous people. Those long standing natives and the descendants of the natives who were separated from the land.

This guy has some interesting ideas.

In an ideal world there would be a happy ending for the palestinians, but the world is unfair, life sucks and then you die. The sad truth is that no matter how good ideas some people may have, the israeli military capabilities is what will dictate this conflict, not some indigenous rights activist.
Best they can hope for is to submit now and work towards a better life slowly inside the israeli system imo.

There are no 2 parties. There is 1 party that dictates everything.
You are just trying to make excuses for the racial oppression and state terrorism of Israel by bringing Palestinians in.
Palestinians didn't invade Israel. Israel is invading Palestine for more than 50 years.
I know exactly your strategy and your excuses.

Lol at you knowing anything, let alone my "strategy" as you call it.

Please broseph, tell me all about my grand masterplan, i would love to hear from a mental midget such as you what i really think

Oh and while you are at it, I would love to hear your thoughts on how this conflict is going, and about some sort of solution that is actually achievable, not just crying over the absolute butt raping the palestinians have taken for 50+ years. This isnt the disney channel, crying like a little girl wont solve anything, same as only blaming one side in this conflict will achieve nothing.

Oh and not to poke to much fun of you sherbro, we are all brothers here on the dog after all, but claiming there is only one party in this conflict is so funny i spit my coffee out. You really know how to get brainwashed brah I suppose its israel firing rockets at themselves and masquerading as palestinian militia since its only one party in this conflict

 

[TheWave111]

"Debunked" by Abby Martin, creator of the documentary "Gaza Fights for Freedom".

Perhaps we should also ask a KKK wizard how to solve race relations in the US? lol smh...

Deflection of someone who can't produce evidence for his claims and tries to attack the persons.
KKK is based on racial superiority. Just like Israel has special laws for ethnic groups to oppress the Palestinians who they see as inferior.

 

[Samjj]

If white Europeans arent allowed their own areas and states why should the Jews?

Huh? Last time I checked European countries still exist?

 

[TheWave111]

In an ideal world there would be a happy ending for the palestinians, but the world is unfair, life sucks and then you die. The sad truth is that no matter how good ideas some people may have, the israeli military capabilities is what will dictate this conflict, not some indigenous rights activist.
Best they can hope for is to submit now and work towards a better life slowly inside the israeli system imo.

Lol at you knowing anything, let alone my "strategy" as you call it.

Please broseph, tell me all about my grand masterplan, i would love to hear from a mental midget such as you what i really think

Oh and while you are at it, I would love to hear your thoughts on how this conflict is going, and about some sort of solution that is actually achievable, not just crying over the absolute butt raping the palestinians have taken for 50+ years. This isnt the disney channel, crying like a little girl wont solve anything, same as only blaming one side in this conflict will achieve nothing.

Oh and not to poke to much fun of you sherbro, we are all brothers here on the dog after all, but claiming there is only one party in this conflict is so funny i spit my coffee out. You really know how to get brainwashed brah I suppose its israel firing rockets at themselves and masquerading as palestinian militia since its only one party in this conflict

You don't want solutions. You only want to bring in excuses for state terrorism and robbery.
There is already a solution. That's the 1967 UN border that Israel violates.
Why does Israel do that? Because it's fully supported by the US to do that.
If China invades Florida are you going to ask what the solution is?
Is it a solution to split Florida into 2 for you and share it with China?

 

[DoctorDeelon]

Israel is similar to nation of islam and black Israelites. I'm not any of them. These are racist groups.
Even in this you can't be consistent.
The religion of Judaism is exactly like nations of islam and black Israelites. They all claim racial superiority.
I haven't seen you complain about it. We both know why.

You're just talking nonsense mate. You've been following me to know what I talk/complain about? Sounds strange.

Abby Martin's whole existence is pro-Palestine. She makes her money defending Palestine and torching Israel. She filed a lawsuit against Georgia over the anti-BDS law. She's not exactly impartial on this topic. She's not a journalist, she's a propaganda pusher.

 

[gluehuffer1776]

Huh? Last time I checked European countries still exist?

And are being flooded with people from the Middle East, Africa and Asia in the name of diversity. Israel should be flooded with migrants. Israel hasnt learned to be multicultural which is why they are so violent against the Palestinians. Open borders for Israel

 

[Samjj]

And are being flooded with people from the Middle East, Africa and Asia in the name of diversity. Israel should be flooded with migrants. Israel hasnt learned to be multicultural which is why they are so violent against the Palestinians. Open borders for Israel

Europeans can close their borders anytime they want.

 

[TheWave111]

You're just talking nonsense mate. You've been following me to know what I talk/complain about? Sounds strange.

Abby Martin's whole existence is pro-Palestine. She makes her money defending Palestine and torching Israel. She filed a lawsuit against Georgia over the anti-BDS law. She's not exactly impartial on this topic. She's not a journalist, she's a propaganda pusher.

That comment was not for you.
that was a response to someone else.
Who cares about Aby Martin. It's about evidence. Evidence you didn't provide.
There is evidence that Israel is making this up.
Why do you believe israel without evidence while Abby Martin and Amnesty International provide evidence for the lies of Israel about human shields.
We are not living in an era anymore where Israel had full control over news. We have social media now.
That's one of the reasons Israel tried to take the internet down in Gaza. That's also the reason why they bombed a media building.

 

[TryggeTryggvar]

You don't want solutions. You only want to bring in excuses for state terrorism and robbery.
There is already a solution. That's the 1967 UN border that Israel violates.
Why does Israel do that? Because it's fully supported by the US to do that.
If China invades Florida are you going to ask what the solution is?
Is it a solution to split Florida into 2 for you and share it with China?

Put down the crack pipe for 5 minutes and breath sherbrah
Also plenty of sherdoggers wouldnt shed any tears if the chinese took florida, split it off the mainland, and sailed it to china

Im talking about a solution israel will accept, seing as the palestinians have no way to win this conflict. Tbh when it comes to what should have happened in an ideal world, you and I are probably not that far apart, but unlike you i actually live in the real world, meaning i can recognize when things cant be like you want them too, no matter how hard you wish/pray/cry.

Do you honestly think the solution you are talking about will be implemented? And if so, how are the palestinians going to convince israel to honor this deal?
Palestine is literally bringing rocks into a modern day gun fight, they can never win over israel.
And to make matters worse, because of religion and greed, israel will never be satisfied until the entire biblical nation of israel has been restored. In some dark recess of your mind you have got to understand this. The old saying about crying over spilt milk is perfect in this case.

Like ive said before, i would love to hear your thoughts on some kind of solution that can actually be achieved, but if you are just going to post your butthurt over israels military domination and the unfairness of it all, save us all the trouble and go to some isis web page and talk to your compatriots who also see the world in black and white.

 

[TheWave111]

Put down the crack pipe for 5 minutes and breath sherbrah
Also plenty of sherdoggers wouldnt shed any tears if the chinese took florida, split it off the mainland, and sailed it to china

Im talking about a solution israel will accept, seing as the palestinians have no way to win this conflict. Tbh when it comes to what should have happened in an ideal world, you and I are probably not that far apart, but unlike you i actually live in the real world, meaning i can recognize when things cant be like you want them too, no matter how hard you wish/pray/cry.

Do you honestly think the solution you are talking about will be implemented? And if so, how are the palestinians going to convince israel to honor this deal?
Palestine is literally bringing rocks into a modern day gun fight, they can never win over israel.
And to make matters worse, because of religion and greed, israel will never be satisfied until the entire biblical nation of israel has been restored. In some dark recess of your mind you have got to understand this. The old saying about crying over spilt milk is perfect in this case.

Like ive said before, i would love to hear your thoughts on some kind of solution that can actually be achieved, but if you are just going to post your butthurt over israels military domination and the unfairness of it all, save us all the trouble and go to some isis web page and talk to your compatriots who also see the world in black and white.

You are contradicting yourself. You're asking me for a solution. I give you a solution. You complain about the solution that it's not realistic and ask me for another 'solution'.
Then you contradict yourself by saying that Israel want to take everything based on the bible
Why are you asking me for a 'realistic solution' if you don't believe in any solution. You believe that Israel wants to take all. I agree with you they want to take all.
Should the Palestinians give them all because a part is not realistic according to you.
You are one big contradiction.
"go to some isis web page and talk to your compatriots."

That's you. You are the one that wants to reward war crimes of Israel. You're the one that tries to reward war crimes against humanity.

 

[TryggeTryggvar]

You are contradicting yourself. You're asking me for a solution. I give you a solution. You complain about the solution that it's not realistic and ask me for another 'solution'.
Then you contradict yourself by saying that Israel want to take everything based on the bible
Why are you asking me for a 'realistic solution' if you don't believe in any solution. You believe that Israel wants to take all. I agree with you they want to take all.
Should the Palestinians give them all because a part is not realistic according to you.
You are one big contradiction.
You are the Isis here. you are the one that wants 'solutions' based on war crimes.

You seem to have problems understanding the world as it works.
What you find contradicting in my post is that my personal feelings and the way the situation actually is unfolding are different. Im not contradicting myself, im just presenting my thoughts and the way the conflict is going in the same post. Granted my english might make it harder to understand the point im trying to make as im norwegian, and we dont speak english in our day to day lives.

I dont agree with israel, and I dont agree with palestine. But you have to be some kind of brainwashed moron if you think this conflict will go anywhere but the way i described. Palestine cant win. Thats the reality of it, and all my feelings and thoughts can never change reality.

Also about the realistic solution scenario i asked of you, its more about exchanging opinions and thoughts, I would love to hear what a die hard palestine supporter such as you would see as a realistic solution, not that your words matter at all in this conflict, neither do mine. We cant change the world from sherdog, but we can sometimes gain insight into subjects from different points of view.

I do not believe you are so lost you actually think the old UN accords will be honored, and I would like to hear your thoughts on what a possible solution could be when you look at the situation as it is. Palestine cant win, and israel WILL take it all. I dont think even you can argue against that.

Also im not endorsing israel when i say they will win, im just looking at this conflict from a logical standpoint. Palestine dont have the support/money/weapons to even scratch israel, while israel could, if they wanted to, kill every palestinian in gaza in less than 12 hours. Its like david vs goliath, only david has had both arms amputated and his legs tied together with his sling.

 

[TheWave111]

You seem to have problems understanding the world as it works.
What you find contradicting in my post is that my personal feelings and the way the situation actually is unfolding are different. Im not contradicting myself, im just presenting my thoughts and the way the conflict is going in the same post. Granted my english might make it harder to understand the point im trying to make as im norwegian, and we dont speak english in our day to day lives.

I dont agree with israel, and I dont agree with palestine. But you have to be some kind of brainwashed moron if you think this conflict will go anywhere but the way i described. Palestine cant win. Thats the reality of it, and all my feelings and thoughts can never change reality.

Also about the realistic solution scenario i asked of you, its more about exchanging opinions and thoughts, I would love to hear what a die hard palestine supporter such as you would see as a realistic solution, not that your words matter at all in this conflict, neither do mine. We cant change the world from sherdog, but we can sometimes gain insight into subjects from different points of view.

I do not believe you are so lost you actually think the old UN accords will be honored, and I would like to hear your thoughts on what a possible solution could be when you look at the situation as it is. Palestine cant win, and israel WILL take it all. I dont think even you can argue against that.

Also im not endorsing israel when i say they will win, im just looking at this conflict from a logical standpoint. Palestine dont have the support/money/weapons to even scratch israel, while israel could, if they wanted to, kill every palestinian in gaza in less than 12 hours. Its like david vs goliath, only david has had both arms amputated and his legs tied together with his sling.

You are full of crap. You contradicted yourself. You said that Israel will take it all. You also said that laws don't mean anything and we have to look at the situation 'on the ground'.
You don't believe in laws or solutions.
Let's say there will come a 'deal' based on a law. It means nothing to you. Laws mean nothing to you. They can break it again.
Israel will still be the superior power and can invade Palestine any moment they want with an excuse of 'security'. They can stay there for 50 years and bring in settlers against International Law.
Your whole excuse of being superior still exists after a 'deal'. Your whole excuse of Israel being supported still exists with a 'deal'.

You want to reward more than 50 years of strategic illegal settlements based on a racist ideology. You stand for nothing. You'll reward a next invasion with the exact same excuses.
The Palestinians have to accept a 'deal' which isn't even a country.
What kind of country has no military, airport, control over their flyzone.
What kind if country accepts that their citizens are seperated and still controlled by a superior 'neighbour'. You want the Palestinians to sign a deal to be slaves and wait till the next violation comes with the exact same excuses.

I gave you a solution based on what a country is. You want a solution of slavery.
Please tell me how Palestine can be a sovereign country with settlements that devides Palestinians? Hoe can they be a country without army? How can they be a country without airport and control of their flyzone?
What is your solution and let's see wgo is realistic here and who wants slavery.

 

[HereticBD]

You are full of crap. You contradicted yourself. You said that Israel will take it all. You also said that laws don't mean anything and we have to look at the situation 'on the ground'.
You don't believe in laws or solutions.
Let's say there will come a 'deal' based on a law. It means nothing to you. Laws mean nothing to you. They can break it again.
Israel will still be the superior power and can invade Palestine any moment they want with an excuse of 'security'. They can stay there for 50 years and bring in settlers against International Law.
Your whole excuse of being superior still exists after a 'deal'. Your whole excuse of Israel being supported still exists with a 'deal'.

You want to reward more than 50 years of strategic illegal settlements based on a racist ideology. You stand for nothing. You'll reward a next invasion with the exact same excuses.
The Palestinians have to accept a 'deal' which isn't even a country.
What kind of country has no military, airport, control over their flyzone.
What kind if country accepts that their citizens are seperated and still controlled by a superior 'neighbour'. You want the Palestinians to sign a deal to be slaves and wait till the next violation comes with the exact same excuses.

Yes, the weaker side in a conflict are the ones that must compromise if they don't want to be annihilated. If they don't, you can watch what happens. This is called "reality". Try living in it.

Good luck with all your wishing though. I'm sure Israel will throw down their arms and let Palestine kill them all one of these days out of the kindness of their hearts, if you just keep wishing...

 

[TheWave111]

Yes, the weaker side in a conflict are the ones that must compromise if they don't want to be annihilated. If they don't, you can watch what happens. This is called "reality". Try living in it.

Good luck with all your wishing though. I'm sure Israel will throw down their arms and let Palestine kill them all one of these days out of the kindness of their hearts, if you just keep wishing...

You want Palestinians to be slaves.
You have no problem with Israel oppressing Palestinians. But you have a problem if Palestinians have an army and would be the dominant force.
This is clear from your comment.
If laws mean nothing why are you crying about Palestinians?

 

[HereticBD]

You want Palestinians to be slaves.
You have no problem with Israel oppressing Palestinians. But you have a problem if Palestinians have an army and would be the dominant force.

No, if roles were reversed and Israel was stupid enough to keep fighting an enemy that they can't possibly defeat, I'd be saying the same thing about their idiocy. Life isn't fair. There are winners and losers. No, everybody does not get a trophy.

Keep hoping and praying though. I'm sure Allah will smite Israel any day now...

 

[TheWave111]

No, if roles were reversed and Israel was stupid enough to keep fighting an enemy that they can't possibly defeat, I'd be saying the same thing about their idiocy. Life isn't fair. There are winners and losers. No, everybody does not get a trophy.

Keep hoping and praying though. I'm sure Allah will smite Israel any day now...

You are basically saying that international laws mean nothing. Everyone can invade everyone as long aa you're the dominant force. The weaker ones just have to sign a 'deal' of slavery.

If laws mean nothing why are you crying about actions of some Palestinians? What's your moral criteria if laws mean nothing?