International 248 people, 66 children Palestinian dead after "Apartheid state" Israel launches airstrikes in Gaza

[MicroBrew]

for far too long israel has been taking shit from these palestinians. the best course of action for israel and the palestinians is too push the gazians into egypt and the west bank residents into jordan.

and the finally peace will reign.

So you mean Israel should carry out a final solution of ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank of Palestinians.

 

[MicroBrew]

It's awesome how the vast majority of people even distantly acquainted with world politics agree that Israel is a settler-colonial villain state. Yet support for Israel is hedged by seas of ignorant rubes.

In the US it's tribal. The Jewish lobby dictates what our media reports on and how the news is spun. The GOP and Christian Right has been co-opted by the Israel lobby, so they knee-jerk will defend whatever Israel does. Then there is also the shitty religious justification for supporting Israel, despite about 15% of Palestinians being Christian.

The rightwing both here in the forum and America in general has been conditioned and indoctrinated to always blame Palestinians and always support Israel.

 

[oldshadow]

By that logic Pearl Harbor would be a defensive attack by Japan <45><45><45>

And if blocking shipping warrants an attack then Hamas has every right to attack because Gaza has been under blockade and siege for years.

You really don't think much before posting.

If you want to go back to the start then who's goal was it to wipe Israel off the map. Not that that's changed.

You view is Israel doesn't belong in the area and at best pre 67. Not going to happen.

The best solution is a high wall between Israel and the Palestinians with no gate. Give them the land they are own. With a warning any attack from them will be a declaration of all out war. Then the two countries have nothing to do with each other.

 

[oldshadow]

yeah don't forget the deadly stones too ! lethal weapon the airstrike killing of children is just self defense ! especially when it's shot first !

If you throw a big rock at me and I'm armed I'm going to shoot, depending on the age of the thrower.

 

[Gunny]

They are several groups of Arabs, not all are Palestinian. What is so hard for you to understand?

“Real” Palestinians aren’t Arabs anyway. The original Peleset were Aegean Indo-Europeans who worshiped Zeus, not the desert God’s prophet. These people calling themselves Palestinians are latter day migrants.

 

[shankmcgank]

Nice try retard, but I laughed at your IDF propaganda videos trying to claim Hamas is attacking from population centers when all of Gaza is a population center. You're too stupid and uninformed to realize what a ridiculous claim that is because you know nothing about the region. By your logic then the IDF also attacked from civilian areas when they entered Gaza you dump truck. And Gaza is the most densely populated region, but even if it wasn't and it was number 2 or 3, how do you think that helps your argument?

Please keep making a fool of yourself...like the other hasbara troll it's important that you expose yourselves for the lying zionist fuckpig shills that you are.

Hmmm, that's not what the Guiness Book of Records says.

Mong Kok, Kowloon Peninsula, Hong Kong


According to the Guinness Book of Records Mong kok is the most densely populated place in the world.

https://www.kickassfacts.com/17-densely-populated-places-earth/2/



Also, I know this is "Jew propaganda" to you, but this website doesn't agree with you either, and they even list their sources at the bottom of the article.


https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-population-density-of-the-gaza-strip


Now you're doubling down on your easily disproved lies. That's 4 times I've destroyed your fables and fairytales in the same thread, hilarious.

Thanks for another laugh, purely at your expense.

 

[MicroBrew]

If you want to go back to the start then who's goal was it to wipe Israel off the map. Not that that's changed.

You view is Israel doesn't belong in the area and at best pre 67. Not going to happen.

The best solution is a high wall between Israel and the Palestinians with no gate. Give them the land they are own. With a warning any attack from them will be a declaration of all out war. Then the two countries have nothing to do with each other.

Israel has made it so that there can be no viable Palestinian state, because Israel has been constantly expanding and pushing Palestinians off their land.

Just prior to this recent flare up, Israel was evictiing more Palestinians from the West Bank. Israel has created a patchwork of settlements in the West Bank, so there really is no way to have a Palestinian State. Israel does not want a Palestinian State, because that would force them to stop stealing land and giving it to Jewish settlers.

 

[oldshadow]

have you read what i wrote ? situation is not at call caused by rockets, stop parroting fake tired propaganda that has been a lie since year 2000 and learn something about the situation. Rockets that did no damage was shot AFTER the israelian agression.

The point is not lands lost in the war the point is that israel is actually expelling people by military force from their own houses in Jerusalem Sheikh Jarrah district right now and throwing them to the streets. That and forbidding Palestinians to reunite in Al Aqsa mosque, attacking them inside the prayer room with riot police and literally burning chunks of it, while Al Aqsa is the third and last holy mosque of islam after Mekkah and Medina. That is a huge deal.

No matter what happens according to people like you Israel has no right to use force of any kind.

I support removal of the illegal settlements and like I said a big high wall with no gates. With a warning.

 

[Bald1]

If I buy a trailer park full of black residents and then expel them to move in a bunch of white residents to create a white homeland, no one would seriously think I am trying to live with the black residents side by side and in peace.

Perhaps this sentence would have been better served by using too many commas instead of too few. Thusly:

If I buy a trailer park, full of black residents and then....

Just trying to insert a bit of levity into a shitty topic. I'll show myself out.

 

[avenue94]

I agree but I doubt we stop selling weapons. We sell the Sauds weapons ffs

But they dont need $3billion or whatever every year. Likewise neither does Egypt etc. I want to see the US leave the region entirely. Maybe Iran is a threat to oil trade but we can maintain 1 base in Kuwait to keep the peace in the Persian Gulf. There is no need to be in Syria or Iraq etc also time to leave Afghanistan

It's one of the great comedic ironies of modern geopolitics that a country that developed nuclear weapons cannot afford to develop their own conventional munitions, or at least chooses to not do so.

 

[oldshadow]

I never said they don't belong in the area, and both Hamas and Fatah recognize their existence, so stop strawmaning.

As long as its pre 67 or are they willing to let that go.

 

[BonesWinckleJones]

Yes I'm sure Guinness has regular access to Gaza that under blockade to count their population. You're so invested in your lies and propaganda that nothing will stop you from making a fool of yourself.

how ironic

 

[Deleted member 512089]

If you throw a big rock at me and I'm armed I'm going to shoot, depending on the age of the thrower.

That's not very israelian. Israelian shoots first and doesn't care about age, that's the first post. you should up your standards if you want to really support them. just saying

 

[Deleted member 512089]

No matter what happens according to people like you Israel has no right to use force of any kind.

I support removal of the illegal settlements and like I said a big high wall with no gates. With a warning.

honestly what are you talking about. if you're against illegal settlements how can you support Israeli violence in this case when they are the one who started the chaos by expelling Palestinian families of their homes in sheikh jarrah inside jerusalem.

 

[oldshadow]

Israel has made it so that there can be no viable Palestinian state, because Israel has been constantly expanding and pushing Palestinians off their land.

Just prior to this recent flare up, Israel was evictiing more Palestinians from the West Bank. Israel has created a patchwork of settlements in the West Bank, so there really is no way to have a Palestinian State. Israel does not want a Palestinian State, because that would force them to stop stealing land and giving it to Jewish settlers.

And that is wrong. Like I said get the jews out of the west bank and move all the non jews out of Israel or at least most of them. Where the will be better off. Build a huge wall with no gsted.

 

[oldshadow]

honestly what are you talking about. if you're against illegal settlements how can you support Israeli violence in this case when they are the one who started the chaos by expelling Palestinian families of their homes in sheikh jarrah inside jerusalem. [/QUgates.]

I'm for a separate of both sides. Separating the city will be hard but must be done. Then build the wall with no gates.

 

[Oceanmachine]

In the US it's tribal. The Jewish lobby dictates what our media reports on and how the news is spun. The GOP and Christian Right has been co-opted by the Israel lobby, so they knee-jerk will defend whatever Israel does. Then there is also the shitty religious justification for supporting Israel, despite about 15% of Palestinians being Christian.

The rightwing both here in the forum and America in general has been conditioned and indoctrinated to always blame Palestinians and always support Israel.

Nah their power is weak. AOC is out on IG as is Illhan etc with millions of followers saying Israel is to blame

“Real” Palestinians aren’t Arabs anyway. The original Peleset were Aegean Indo-Europeans who worshiped Zeus, not the desert God’s prophet. These people calling themselves Palestinians are latter day migrants.

They also arent pure arab subrace. They just apeak arabic lile north africans largelly.

Israel has made it so that there can be no viable Palestinian state, because Israel has been constantly expanding and pushing Palestinians off their land.

Just prior to this recent flare up, Israel was evictiing more Palestinians from the West Bank. Israel has created a patchwork of settlements in the West Bank, so there really is no way to have a Palestinian State. Israel does not want a Palestinian State, because that would force them to stop stealing land and giving it to Jewish settlers.

US should make deal with Egypt on Gaza, more residency permits and citizenship etc. Regarding the larger Palestinian west bank settlements it should fall under Jordanian rule as city states. That is the only thing that seems likely. Israel is out signing trade deals with Arab states and South Korea. The Palestinian cause doesnt have any strong supporters behind them. The Arab world at large is tired of the issue

 

[Islam Imamate]

“Real” Palestinians aren’t Arabs anyway. The original Peleset were Aegean Indo-Europeans who worshiped Zeus, not the desert God’s prophet. These people calling themselves Palestinians are latter day migrants.

"Latter day migrants", yeah they migrated there as Jews thousands of years ago and then converted to Christianity and Islam as evidenced by the fact that Palestinians are among the closest genetic relatives of Middle Eastern Jewry

Ostrer’s team also identified two major groups of Jews: Middle Eastern Jews (Iranian and Iraqi) and European/Syrian Jews. The split between these two groups of Jews occurred some 2,500 years ago.

Both groups of Jews shared ancestry with contemporary Middle Eastern and Southern European populations. The closest genetic relatives of the Middle Eastern Jews are Druze, Bedouin and Palestinians. The closest genetic relatives of the European group of Jews are Northern Italians, followed by Sardinians and French.

https://www.haaretz.com/science-and-health/palestinians-and-jews-share-genetic-roots-1.5411201

 

[Oceanmachine]

And that is wrong. Like I said get the jews out of the west bank and move all the non jews out of Israel or at least most of them. Where the will be better off. Build a huge wall with no gsted.

That would be fair. The issue for Israel is they have Arab citizens living in Haifa, Jaffa and the Desert.

Israel asks how come they have Arabs sitting in their parliament and nation but how come any Palestinian state would be an ethnostate without any Jews? Tbh I get that. No arab nation has Jews sitting in the parliament etc or hardly any have Jewish citizens. So for Israel its a lose lose to give up settlements leading to another pure Arab state and yet they still have their own Arab citizens they cant get rid of

But this wont happen but it would be fair. A pure ethnostate for each side. Unless you say the Arab citizens of Israel can remain and then to be fair the Jewish settlers can remain in a Palestinian state as citizens and be given political seats of power.

 

[lifelessheap]

thats kind of because all mainstream us based news sources are owned by like 6 total people if you follow whose at the top, hence why every us based news station produces the same sensational crap.

We don't have news in the US. Just propaganda.