Elections 2022 Mid-term Elections PBP

[Red Dragoniop]

laugh now cry later... LOLLLL REKT

 

[Sano]

Agree but to be fair the left is pushing a guy with legitimate brain damage, not hyperbole but real brain damage...Oz is not the best for sure but IMHO brain damage is not a quality I'm looking for in a candidate...so here we are, and I'd bet the Senate will be held up until a December run off in Georgia.

Fetterman will get better, the others, not so much. In the end it comes down to policy, or at least it should. Not the first time a (possibly) senator has suffered from a stroke. I agree that it's a bad look, but if he is getting medical treatment and have a normal prognosis, as his doctors have said, then it shouldn't be that concerning.

 

[Lead]

Twitter is probably the ultimate echo chamber environment though, it really isn't impacting any "changes" in voting or "convincing" anyone of anything they didn't already believe. I'm sure someone voting blue who follows Bernie isn't going to see a Candice Owens video and vote red, or vice versa someone following Ben Shapiro isn't going to etc etc. People pretty much double down on there and reinforce what they already believe.

Lolol CC you can't let him take you down like that haha.

But even beyond that, let’s say someone was convinced to vote differently because of another posters messages/ tweets. That is simply a digital version of a conversation. If I went out into the real world and talked with some stranger about politics, this suddenly is different and okay. But if it’s on Facebook or Twitter, it’s interference. The more simple solution to this is people need to be grown ups, understand how social media works and handle it accordingly. That is a far better option than the implied idea that we need to regulate peoples opinions in these posts/ tweets because we don’t like the influence they might have on peoples vote. This gets down to a core belief of whether people should be given more freedom/ responsibility or should the government somehow handle control it. Even if you are a critic of social media, to go to those solutions is far worse and to also act like it makes our elections any less fair is a pile of bullshit if you ask me.

 

[2fast2see]

 

[Morning Star]

After Trump won in 2016 I just had to accept that I did not understand much of my fellow man the way that I thought. And I personally think polls are getting more and more meaningless.

Not looking too good for the Dems right now, but hopefully they will hold on to the Senate. But even though it's very unlikely, I do see paths for a shocking Blue upset. This election will tell us a lot besides who holds the House and Senate after. We will find out where women prioritize their reproductive rights in the larger scheme. We will find out how moderates really felt about Jan 6. We will also find out just how fed up moderates are with 'wokeness'. We will find out if 20 plus months of a Trumpless Twitter diluted the poison in the well.

No result will surprise me.

Yeah results vs polls are all over the place at times. Hard to take them as anything more than a decent estimate but I've seen far too many big swings the last 6 years or so, maybe the methodology needs to be updated.

However I do like how Real Clear Politics has just started to rank pollsters on past results. Guessing after this round they will be able to go from straight average to weighed average based on past results of individual pollsters. Might finally see more accurate predictions going forward, but who knows.

 

[Captain Sausage]

Fetterman will get better, the others, not so much. In the end it comes down to policy, or at least it should. Not the first time a (possibly) senator has suffered from a stroke. I agree that it's a bad look, but if he is getting medical treatment and have a normal prognosis, as his doctors have said, then it shouldn't be that concerning.

Along those lines, his refusal to release his records or even talk about them gives me pause. If he truly has a good prognosis for recovery, seems to me any sane person would push that. Maybe he has other reasons which are fair just for me it doesn't pass the sniff check.

 

[Spounman]

Can't wait, lets go

 

[Misfit23]

Voted last week. Voting in person is for suckers.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Can't wait, lets go

Legit lost <Lmaoo><45>

 

[Sano]

Along those lines, his refusal to release his records or even talk about them gives me pause. If he truly has a good prognosis for recovery, seems to me any sane person would push that. Maybe he has other reasons which are fair just for me it doesn't pass the sniff check.

His doctor released a statement after his post 5 months medical examination and said that he was recovering and fit to serve. Why would we need to browse his personal medical records?

 

[KnightTemplar]

Trump supporters tomorrow, when the Red Wave doesn't happen,

 

[Captain Sausage]

His doctor released a statement after his post 5 months medical examination and said that he was recovering and fit to serve. Why would we need to browse his personal medical records?

Great point ..it's just I'm not the most trusting person by nature and I'm too old to fix that, especially when it comes to politics. Both sides are guilty of bending if not breaking the truth, so I like to see the receipts, and I don't think I'm alone.

 

[nostradumbass]

I have to disagree in fact strongly disagree. Elon has over 100 million followers many are right wing people who 5 years ago used to joke I like my cars making noises to I cannot wait for my Model Y. But more to the point he has access to a ton of moderate and centrist independents that are fans of his and he tweets if I was an independent I would vote Republican that even got Jack Dorsey to question Elon management of Twitter.

Now a US citizen can't give his opinion if it's not for your party?

 

[Lead]

His doctor released a statement after his post 5 months medical examination and said that he was recovering and fit to serve. Why would we need to browse his personal medical records?

Great point ..it's just I'm not the most trusting person by nature and I'm too old to fix that, especially when it comes to politics. Both sides are guilty of bending if not breaking the truth, so I like to see the receipts, and I don't think I'm alone.

A statement is a lot different from what actually would show up on one’s record. We have recent examples about this even:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43970908

Given he recently had the stroke and his public appearances show some limitations, it’s pretty reasonable for voters to want this. He didn’t have to release it so that’s all just going to be baked into the voting for who cared enough about that to let it change their vote. Hard to quantify what that could be and I’m sure the campaign had a back and forth about what the best option was in terms of winning.

 

[Sano]

Great point ..it's just I'm not the most trusting person by nature and I'm too old to fix that, especially when it comes to politics. Both sides are guilty of bending if not breaking the truth, so I like to see the receipts, and I don't think I'm alone.

I get the sentiment, especially in this climate, however I don't think there is reason to believe that his doctor doesn't know what he's talking about. His doctor is record and legally liable. Short term it might have been better for Fetterman to have released his records, although I understand why he would want to keep them private. Long run I don't think it would have mattered that much because talking points wouldn't change. If a statement from his physician wasn't enough, laymen trying to "crack the case" on his medical records would just further muddle the waters. That's my sense of it anyway.

 

[Spounman]

 

[Sano]

A statement is a lot different from what actually would show up on one’s record. We have recent examples about this even:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43970908

Given he recently had the stroke and his public appearances show some limitations, it’s pretty reasonable for voters to want this. He didn’t have to release it so that’s all just going to be baked into the voting for who cared enough about that to let it change their vote. Hard to quantify what that could be and I’m sure the campaign had a back and forth about what the best option was in terms of winning.

Trump is a crook and that's fraud/coercion. Using him as the benchmark would open up a whole can of worms everywhere. I get your point, but I see no reason to doubt his doctor. As you said, we'll see what the voters think soon enough.

 

[Lord_Impaler]

The machine wasn’t working at my voting station, the poll worker definitely seemed nervous about having to tell me when I handed him my ballot, lol.

 

[mommas homeboy]

Aaaaaannnnnnnd Noooooooooooooooow

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[cottagecheesefan]

The machine wasn’t working at my voting station, the poll worker definitely seemed nervous about having to tell me when I handed him my ballot, lol.

in AZ? reports of similar issues in a few other states as well (RI, NJ)