Media "2020 Fastest Main Event KO" --- Conor McGregor Is Looking Bigger Than Ever

Paolo Delutis said:
P4p weirdest chest in combat history and that including trevor prangley.. His pectorials are somehow merged with his deltoids and come to very angular points at the center...not to mention flat as a pan...
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What's weird about them? I have the same pecs as Conor. It's just that his shoulders are disproportionally wide for his build, so his pecs start and end at a longer top to bottom pec ratio. Broad shoulders and big delts give you a long reach and a strong clinch game. Over developed pecs are only good for the beach.
 
Ironnik94 said:
Idk man...
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He doesn't look as guant here. Has any fighter done a professional UFC shoot straight off the weigh-in scales?? Here's McGregor from that actual fight. Way bigger. I think he is sucking his gut in for that comparison pic.
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spannered said:
What's weird about them? I have the same pecs as Conor. It's just that his shoulders are disproportionally wide for his build, so his pecs start and end at a longer top to bottom pec ratio. Broad shoulders and big delts give you a long reach and a strong clinch game. Over developed pecs are only good for the beach.
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Delts ( shoulders ) have nothing to do with reach lmfao...or clinch....

Reach is bone structure...nothing else

And clinch strength comes from your hand position and grip strength in your forearms and hand muscles

Shoulders (Deltoid)..are good for striking and lifting/pushing motions....

Have a look at the other photos or pretty much any other chest....theres no roundness to them and are so thin its concave almost against his shoulders/arms...

Im just saying by classic "jacked" criteria a chest big,puffed out and round chest...conor is pretty much all arms...and quads...
 
Paolo Delutis said:
Delts ( shoulders ) have nothing to do with reach lmfao...or clinch....

Reach is bone structure...nothing else

And clinch strength comes from your hand position and grip strength in your forearms and hand muscles

Shoulders (Deltoid)..are good for striking and lifting/pushing motions....

Have a look at the other photos or pretty much any other chest....theres not roundness to them and are so thing its concave almost against his shoulders/arms...

Im just saying a classic "jacked" criteria is a big,puffed out and round chest...conor is pretty much all arms...and quads...
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You have no idea what you're fucking talking about. Broad shoulders (the length from one end to the other's end, if I have to even point that out) absolutely gives you a longer reach. I have a 73 inch reach and I'm 70 inches tall. My arms aren't abnormally long, it's my shoulders. And I was obviously talking about delt size = strength in the clinch.

And lol at clinch wrestling being hand position when I'm obviously talking about build suitability. And a bigger lol at you thinking it's literal grip strength with the hands and forearms. What, the guy who squeezes the other's arms the hardest wins a greco roman/thai clinch position? It's all shoulders. Look at GSP's build for example. He has quite skinny arms and relatively small pecs in comparison to his shoulders and back muscles, and he is the epitome of a long reach to height ration and brute strength in grappling exchanges.

It is glaringly obvious you've never stepped foot on a wrestling/mma mat.
 
spannered said:
You have no idea what you're fucking talking about. Broad shoulders (the length from one end to the other's end, if I have to even point that out) absolutely gives you a longer reach. I have a 73 inch reach and I'm 70 inches tall. My arms aren't abnormally long, it's my shoulders. And I was obviously talking about delt size = strength in the clinch.

And lol at clinch wrestling being hand position when I'm obviously talking about build suitability. And a bigger lol at you thinking it's literal grip strength with the hands and forearms. What, the guy who squeezes the other's arms the hardest wins a greco roman/thai clinch position? It's all shoulders. Look at GSP's build for example. He has quite skinny arms and relatively small pecs in comparison to his shoulders and back muscles, and he is the epitome of a long reach to height ration and brute strength in grappling exchanges.

It is glaringly obvious you've never stepped foot on a wrestling/mma mat.
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Wtf lmfaooooook ahabahabahababahhahckckc

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Bro your wingspan ..which is your reach in MMA is the measurement from the tips of your fingers to the other hand spread out like Jesus on the cross..


Packing muscle on to your shoulder doesnt change the length of your arms ya fucking dink

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As show in the picture ur deltoid or shoulders muscle is pointing up when your reach is measured ...which means it has no effect on the length of the wing span or your reach...

This is just basic anatomy...if your reach increased with muscle then eventually ur arm could become dislocated from over working out the shoulders and effectively push it out of the joint...this would also mean bodybuilders would have huge reaches...which we know is not the case..


Please shut up...greco roman is about pushing your opponent...which i said is the key function of the deltoid...the grip or strength of the clinch is determined by your ability to grip your opponent...to effectively wreastle you need to move or push your oppoenent thats where legs and deltoids and triceps come into play as well as chest these are all pushing muscles....as well as core for balance...


Ive trained in japanese jiujitsu since 2005 and muay thai more recently and i was suppose to fight my first MMA fight then covid happen...

You are wrong on all counts
 
Paolo Delutis said:
Wtf lmfaooooook ahabahabahababahhahckckc

Ahhsyfudhau



Bro your wingspan ..which is your reach in MMA is the measurement from the tips of your fingers to the other hand spread out like Jesus on the cross..


Packing muscle on to your shoulder doesnt change the length of your arms ya fucking dink

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As show in the picture ur deltoid or shoulders muscle is pointing up when your reach is measured ...which means it has no effect on the length of the wing span or your reach...

This is just basic anatomy...if your reach increased with muscle then eventually ur arm could become dislocated from over working out the shoulders and effectively push it out of the joint...this would also mean bodybuilders would have huge reaches...which we know is not the case..


Please shut up...greco roman is about pushing your opponent...which i said is the key function of the deltoid...the grip or strength of the clinch is determined by your ability to grip your opponent...to effectively wreastle you need to move or push your oppoenent thats where legs and deltoids and triceps come into play as well as chest these are all pushing muscles....as well as core for balance...


Ive trained in japanese jiujitsu since 2005 and muay thai more recently and i was suppose to fight my first MMA fight then covid happen...

You are wrong on all counts
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Holy fuck mate. You went to all that trouble and didn't even bother to read my post properly. How are you fuckign something up that is so simple?

I'm saying, HAVING BROADER SHOULDERS, which is the LENGTH of your shoulders from one shoulder to another, INCREASES YOUR REACH. Don't tell me what a reach span is, I've had it measured for a fucking mma promotor. Here, I even pointed it out on the pic you bothered to dig up:
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When that span between the arrows IS LONGER, which is how BROAD your shoulders are, you HAVE A LONGER REACH. Read that carefully.

I said, quite literally, DELTOIDS and shoulder muscles in general are the best functional strength for clinch grappling. Not that they 'increase your reach'. How on earth did you misunderstand that?

And if you really did JJ for that long, and have been training for MMA, you would not say that the hand grip and forearms are the best muscles for clinching. That is absurd. You don't USE YOUR GRIPS when clinching, you cup your opponents arms and shoulders and gable grip when you can. Grip strength is purely a body building term, because you aren't 'grabbing' anything in grappling.

And you are dead wrong again about 'pushing' being the main component to wrestling or clinching in general. You are PULLING. You PULL your opponent to the ground. When is it, in any component of freestyle wrestling, do you think you are pushing? Please let me know what I'm missing here, because I did MMA for 8 years and I'm pretty certain 90% of freestyle wrestling (and 100% of greco roman) is pulling techniques. I deadset don't believe that you've ever really grappled by getting all that so wrong.
 
spannered said:
Holy fuck mate. You went to all that trouble and didn't even bother to read my post properly. How are you fuckign something up that is so simple?

I'm saying, HAVING BROADER SHOULDERS, which is the LENGTH of your shoulders from one shoulder to another, INCREASES YOUR REACH. Don't tell me what a reach span is, I've had it measured for a fucking mma promotor. Here, I even pointed it out on the pic you bothered to dig up:
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When that span between the arrows IS LONGER, which is how BROAD your shoulders are, you HAVE A LONGER REACH. Read that carefully.

I said, quite literally, DELTOIDS and shoulder muscles in general are the best functional strength for clinch grappling. Not that they 'increase your reach'. How on earth did you misunderstand that?

And if you really did JJ for that long, and have been training for MMA, you would not say that the hand grip and forearms are the best muscles for clinching. That is absurd. You don't USE YOUR GRIPS when clinching, you cup your opponents arms and shoulders and gable grip when you can. Grip strength is purely a body building term, because you aren't 'grabbing' anything in grappling.

And you are dead wrong again about 'pushing' being the main component to wrestling or clinching in general. You are PULLING. You PULL your opponent to the ground. When is it, in any component of freestyle wrestling, do you think you are pushing? Please let me know what I'm missing here, because I did MMA for 8 years and I'm pretty certain 90% of freestyle wrestling (and 100% of greco roman) is pulling techniques. I deadset don't believe that you've ever really grappled by getting all that so wrong.
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U said having big shoulders help your reach in your original post...

Since then uve gone into deeper detail Which is basically you repeating what im saying in different words...if u go to my original post i said reach is determined by bone structure...the gap or distance between shoulders as u pointed out is essentially part of the human body bone structure which changes from person to person..so now i agree with u..ur first post lacked this distinction so it made me think u were referencing muscle size and not skeletal make up or structure...

All grappling arts require push and pull movements and lifting movements...i was merely pointing out the pushing muscle groups..

In freestyle when you shoot a double for there legs and drive through your opponents sprawl you are pushing with your legs while pulling there hips towards u and down....the same can be said for greco roman when you are in a double underhooks and driving ur hips forward to begin a lift or suplex you are pushing into your opponent grappling requires both pushing and pulling while having a great understanding of balance...

Grip plays a huge factor in grappling...such as grabbing ones wrist or elbow...wrestling has its own grips , as jiujitsu has its own...especially when referencing the GI...to think having a grip doesnt matter at the highest level is just ridiculous..look at khabib and the dagistanni hand cuff...he litteraly wrist controls u on one hand with his grip and pummels u with his other freehand...that is all grip strength and forearm strength...

It appears this was likely a misunderstanding ...
 
If bodybuilding was effective in MMA, Ubereem would be undefeated.

'The more muscle mass, the faster you gas.'

This may mean McGregor will hit harder than ever, but instead of being exhausted after two rounds it'll be surprising if he can last a round and a half before showing signs of exhaustion.

Edit - And the last time he's cut down to 155 was for the Mayweather fight nearly three and a half years ago. With the increased muscle mass and weight it may be increasingly difficult for him to make weight.

And before anyone bites my head off saying 'McG has never missed weight!' I said it MAY be increasingly difficult, especially since he's three and a half years older.
 
Paolo Delutis said:
U said having big shoulders help your reach in your original post...

Since then uve gone into deeper detail Which is basically you repeating what im saying in different words...if u go to my original post i said reach is determined by bone structure...the gap or distance between shoulders as u pointed out is essentially part of the human body bone structure which changes from person to person..so now i agree with u..ur first post lacked this distinction so it made me think u were referencing muscle size and not skeletal make up or structure...

All grappling arts require push and pull movements and lifting movements...i was merely pointing out the pushing muscle groups..

In freestyle when you shoot a double for there legs and drive through your opponents sprawl you are pushing with your legs while pulling there hips towards u and down....the same can be said for greco roman when you are in a double underhooks and driving ur hips forward to begin a lift or suplex you are pushing into your opponent grappling requires both pushing and pulling while having a great understanding of balance...

Grip plays a huge factor in grappling...such as grabbing ones wrist or elbow...wrestling has its own grips , as jiujitsu has its own...especially when referencing the GI...to think having a grip doesnt matter at the highest level is just ridiculous..look at khabib and the dagistanni hand cuff...he litteraly wrist controls u on one hand with his grip and pummels u with his other freehand...that is all grip strength and forearm strength...

It appears this was likely a misunderstanding ...
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I literally said, and I'm copying and pasting here, "And I was obviously talking about delt size = strength in the clinch." You then went on to write a novel about how shoulder muscles don't increase your reach. They obviously don't mate. Was that not pretty clear with what I said?

And yes, grip strength can come into play, but in my experience only with opponents who are much, much bigger. Khabib uses wrist control so magically because he knows how to base in every perceivable position on the ground with 3 points of contact. His grip strength is probably decent, but any UFC calibre fighter has the grip strength to hold another's wrist, it's just how and when to use it.

And yeah, I concede that there is pushing motion with the legs and hips in wrestling, and push strength in BJJ when making space from the bottom, put in the context I was originally pointing out (with McGregor), that broad shoulder build with strong delts and longer, less defined pecs is ideal in MMA.

I can't be bothered arguing anymore. We have now gone way off topic.
 
spannered said:
I literally said, and I'm copying and pasting here, "And I was obviously talking about delt size = strength in the clinch." You then went on to write a novel about how shoulder muscles don't increase your reach. They obviously don't mate. Was that not pretty clear with what I said?

And yes, grip strength can come into play, but in my experience only with opponents who are much, much bigger. Khabib uses wrist control so magically because he knows how to base in every perceivable position on the ground with 3 points of contact. His grip strength is probably decent, but any UFC calibre fighter has the grip strength to hold another's wrist, it's just how and when to use it.

And yeah, I concede that there is pushing motion with the legs and hips in wrestling, and push strength in BJJ when making space from the bottom, put in the context I was originally pointing out (with McGregor), that broad shoulder build with strong delts and longer, less defined pecs is ideal in MMA.

I can't be bothered arguing anymore. We have now gone way off topic.
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As i mentioned ive seem to have misunderstood you...but we are mostly on the same page...at this point

No further qualms from me
 
Paolo Delutis said:
As i mentioned ive seem to have misunderstood you...but we are mostly on the same page...at this point

No further qualms from me
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Yeah, fair enough.

Good on you for admitting you misunderstood (99% of sherdoggers wouldn't), and you did make some good points about grappling. Good luck with your MMA fight bro. I've had 5 years off from training and I'm thinking of having another crack at it before I get too old haha.
 
jm5000 said:
The Yoel cheating narrative is wildly overblown if anything as some posters have just mentioned here. Kennedy's actions were definitely worst imo. If anything at least the fight gave us this hilarious exchange after the fight.

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What was the story behind this backstage altercation?
 
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