Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread v4

Who do you support most out of the remaining Democratic candidates?

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Nathan J Robinson is the founder and lead editor of Current Affairs magazine, so not quite the nobody you presume

Bernie has spent his entire life fighting for people who struggle and work for a living. Attacking Bernie is attacking all of us who are in that boat.


I struggled, I work for a living, and I’m telling you, hanging your hope on this guy is the wrong move. All the hope in the world won’t pass legislation. He doesn’t have a strong resume in that department.

Now, I will grant you, Bernie is at least real. He’s been saying the same shit his whole career. A VERY rare trait in Washington. Much like trump voters, if you don’t give a fuck about the paragraph above, and you just want to put Bernie in as a giant fuck you to the establishment democrats, well then, I approve.

Bernie vs Trump is weirdly, a win for all Americans. It’s the biggest FU we could possibly give the establishment in both parties.
 
Which D candidate would motivate Republicans the most to go out and vote against them?

A woman, Obama's friend, or a Socialist?
IMO Conservatives will vote anyway, the question should be who would motivate independents the most? I guess it's 1 - Sanders, 2- Warren and 3 - Biden.
 
I struggled, I work for a living, and I’m telling you, hanging your hope on this guy is the wrong move. All the hope in the world won’t pass legislation. He doesn’t have a strong resume in that department.

Now, I will grant you, Bernie is at least real. He’s been saying the same shit his whole career. A VERY rare trait in Washington. Much like trump voters, if you don’t give a fuck about the paragraph above, and you just want to put Bernie in as a giant fuck you to the establishment democrats, well then, I approve.

Bernie vs Trump is weirdly, a win for all Americans. It’s the biggest FU we could possibly give the establishment in both parties.
Once you realize that Trump IS the establishment, then you will wake up from the dream.

The establishment is Wall Street, big corporations, military industrial complex, etc who have all seen massive increases in their wealth under Trump, while at best working people have saved a few bucks on their tax bills.

We’ll get you to come around Bob I’m sure of it
 
at best working people have saved a few bucks on their tax bills.
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This is false. I’m sorry if you’ve missed out, but it’s been good for me, and every productive person I know. Wages are rising faster for the bottom than the top.

Furthermore, corporations are awesome. Walmart, Apple, eBay, etc. They’ve all made our lives way better.
 
Debate tonight. Can Klobuchar and Steyer have the decency to just drop out? I really wanted to see just the 4 of Biden, Bernie, Warren, Buttigieg together.

Steyer is in it till the end. He's got the money to stay in it until he is formerly told to fuck off, and even then the guy might have the ego to run as an independent. Klobucher on the other hand, is make or break tonight. If she makes no headway, she'll likely drop out in the coming weeks.
 
My self imposed drinking rule of the night, drink whenever they mention that the field is all white
 
Funny how you wrote all that, and couldn’t come up with any accomplishments.


Please, list all the major legislation Bernie has passed in his decades in office.


We’ll wait.







“But... but.., he wanted to help people”

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Damn, man. You're a dick. I can't believe you are acting like you are owning the fact that Bernie Sanders, aka 'the amendment king', has never done anything when all you had to do was google, but instead choose to use your time posting gifs and insults.

He sided with the minority in voting against the use of force against Iraq in 1991 and 2002. He also opposed the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Voted against the Patriot Act despite the majority of Congress voting for it (357 to 66). He also sponsored several amendments trying to limit its effects, even getting a proposal passed through the House preventing the government from obtaining a record of the books people buy.

Was an open critic of Federal Reserve Chair Alan Greenspan and took him head on insisting he only represented “large and wealthy corporations.” Greenspan later admitted to Congress that his economic ideology regarding risky mortgage loans was flawed.

He passed more amendments than any other member during his time in the House. It earned him the nickname “The Amendment King.” He did this despite being a “socialist” and Congress being controlled by Republicans from 1994 to 2006, in one of the most partisan right-wing Houses ever.

Passed an amendment to “require offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white collar crime to give appropriate notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”

Passed an amendment that improved Postsecondary Education. It administered a competitive grant program to institutions of higher education seeking to reduce costs through the purchase of goods and services. This saved colleges and taxpayers both money.

He amended the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003, stopping the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.”

He expanded free health care and won a $100 million increase in funding by using his amendment powers. This added community health centers that gave out a variety of free health care services.

Prevented child labor by passing an amendment to a general appropriations bill. This stated that the U.S. will not appropriate funds for the importation of goods made by the hands of minors.

Won a $22 million increase for low-income home energy assistance and a related weatherization assistance program. This helped heat homes for the poor.

Passed an amendment that formed a bipartisan coalition effectively prohibiting the Export-Import Bank from handing out loans for nuclear projects in China.

U.S. Senate
Defeated a wealthy businessman, Rich Tarrant, to win his U.S. Senate seat in 2006, in one of the most expensive campaigns in Vermont’s history.

Received the distinction of being named the third-most popular senator in the country, according to Public Policy Polling in August 2011.

Given a score of 100 percent by the NAACP and NHLA (National Hispanic Leadership Agenda) based on his record during his time in the Senate.

Named one of the top 5 American Jews of the Forward 50 in 2015.

Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Veterans’ Affairs in 2013-2014.

Became ranking minority member of the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015.

Became ranking minority member of the Subcommittee on Primary Health and Aging.

Passed an amendment making sure that solar water heaters provide at least 30 percent of hot water for new federal buildings. This is forcing us to use green energy.

Made sure to it that bailout funds weren’t used to replace laid-off U.S. workers with exploited and poorly-paid foreign workers.

Helped ensure that child care was being offered to parents in the Armed Forces by requiring the Comptroller General to provide accurate reporting on what was being done.

Required a public database be made available showing the names of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors. This helped crack down on corruption.

Required that the TRICARE program provide treatment to veterans affected by certain types of autism. It wasn’t previously being done.

Won a battle requiring the Government Accountability Office to conduct an audit of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System (the part that doesn’t interfere with monetary policy). This revealed the names of the recipients of over 2,000,000,000,000 in taxpayer assistance.

Was praised by John McCain(R-AZ) and Sen. Jack Reed(D-RI) for overhauling the Veterans Administration. Was said to have done such an excellent job of bringing all parties to a deal, that it wouldn’t have gotten done without Sanders’ work.

Oh wait, I get it - you are posting James O'Keefe stuff and are probably stuck in the right/left fraud paradigm and get off on owning "libtards and shitlibs", amirite Boomer? <[analyzed}>
Be honest, which one is you?
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I struggled, I work for a living, and I’m telling you, hanging your hope on this guy is the wrong move. All the hope in the world won’t pass legislation. He doesn’t have a strong resume in that department.

Now, I will grant you, Bernie is at least real. He’s been saying the same shit his whole career. A VERY rare trait in Washington. Much like trump voters, if you don’t give a fuck about the paragraph above, and you just want to put Bernie in as a giant fuck you to the establishment democrats, well then, I approve.

Bernie vs Trump is weirdly, a win for all Americans. It’s the biggest FU we could possibly give the establishment in both parties.
What 'hope' are you talking about? Having a lazy do nothing is >>>>>> than an evil corrupt deep state actor. Any non psychopath would be better than the POTUS offerings we've had recently - that is the problem.

In a world where we voted for three wars predicated upon FRAUD HOAXES (Gulf Tonkin, Babies in incubators and WMD's), not voting for war and saving millions of lives and trillions dollars is really all we need, tho it should not exactly be touted as some impossible virtue.

Just imagine what that trillions of dollars could have done for infrastructure, health career, the economy or countless other things.

Serious question: have you ever been to Vermont? It is a conservative's dream in a lot of ways, there are none-very few mega corps, everything is clean, it has not been decimated by building code regulations, mom and pop businesses flourish and dominate the state, it is a farming haven and almost everyone gets along. No, you will not hear this on Hegelian Dialectic Pimp Station Fox News or Breitbart, just a lot of ranting and raving about "mUh cOmMiEs!", which is as cringe as "Orange Man Bad Is Putin's Puppet". When you look at many libertarians and independent Bernie (only ran as a dem because that is the only way to win - and he was robbed for that), there is really not much difference when you get down to brass tacks: anti mega corporation, anti war, pro small business, pro the middle class and pro above the oligarchy.

You say you struggle and work but you will probably benefit fro him the most. You think he is just going to take all your money and give it to poor black people? Is that what you are worried about? Unless you are a billionaire, you will likely be seeing vast improvements, not to mention the fruits that will be reaped from an anti-interventionist foreign approach. Stop the wars and displacing millions of third world Muslims and you solve the mass-migration and refugee crisis in large part.


Trump told us he only real problem in Washington, don't get it twisted with all the over thinking and confusion the media pimps on you, and that is: it is a giant swamp. Unfortunately, Trump did not clean up the swamp but put his ZOGgles on and got in bed with them. Bernie is not spotless, but you are guaranteed h will not get in bed withnthe same players Trump did and litter his cabinet with corrupt and crooked billionaires to keep from getting blackmailed further. You may find Bernie took some nude photos of some fat hairy bushed commune hippies back in the 70's, but you will not find him hanging out with Jeffery Epstein.
 
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Huge.. This is why Trump is talking about him now.
We already knew Trump is the only one that can beat Bernie (save Tulsi or Yang), as he is the only one that can get the independent vote and the rust belt voters that swing elections. Naturally, the DNC does not care and thinks policy has nothing to do with it, that Trump only won because he is white and has a penis, so they will likely thieve it again for Dirty :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: Joe and then act surprised when they get ceremoniously smashed for a second time and lose every branch of government because they failed to motivate regular folks to get out and vote.
 
Damn, man. You're a dick. I can't believe you are acting like you are owning the fact that Bernie Sanders, aka 'the amendment king', has never done anything when all you had to do was google, but instead choose to use your time posting gifs and insults.



Oh wait, I get it - you are posting James O'Keefe stuff and are probably stuck in the right/left fraud paradigm and get off on owning "libtards and shitlibs", amirite Boomer? <[analyzed}>
Be honest, which one is you?
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None of what you list is a major piece of legislation.


You did however list,

100% score naacp

A top 5 American Jew





Uge accomplishments...
 
What 'hope' are you talking about? Having a lazy do nothing is >>>>>> than an evil corrupt deep state actor. Any non psychopath would be better than the POTUS offerings we've had recently - that is the problem.

In a world where we voted for three wars predicated upon FRAUD HOAXES (Gulf Tonkin, Babies in incubators and WMD's), not voting for war and saving millions of lives and trillions dollars is really all we need, tho it should not exactly be touted as some impossible virtue.

Just imagine what that trillions of dollars could have done for infrastructure, health career, the economy or countless other things.

Serious question: have you ever been to Vermont? It is a conservative's dream in a lot of ways, there are none-very few mega corps, everything is clean, it has not been decimated by building code regulations, mom and pop businesses flourish and dominate the state, it is a farming haven and almost everyone gets along. No, you will not hear this on Hegelian Dialectic Pimp Station Fox News or Breitbart, just a lot of ranting and raving about "mUh cOmMiEs!", which is as cringe as "Orange Man Bad Is Putin's Puppet". When you look at many libertarians and independent Bernie (only ran as a dem because that is the only way to win - and he was robbed for that), there is really not much difference when you get down to brass tacks: anti mega corporation, anti war, pro small business, pro the middle class and pro above the oligarchy.

You say you struggle and work but you will probably benefit fro him the most. You think he is just going to take all your money and give it to poor black people? Is that what you are worried about? Unless you are a billionaire, you will likely be seeing vast improvements, not to mention the fruits that will be reaped from an anti-interventionist foreign approach. Stop the wars and displacing millions of third world Muslims and you solve the mass-migration and refugee crisis in large part.


Trump told us he only real problem in Washington, don't get it twisted with all the over thinking and confusion the media pimps on you, and that is: it is a giant swamp. Unfortunately, Trump did not clean up the swamp but put his ZOGgles on and got in bed with them. Bernie is not spotless, but you are guaranteed h will not get in bed withnthe same players Trump did and litter his cabinet with corrupt and crooked billionaires to keep from getting blackmailed further. You may find Bernie took some nude photos of some fat hairy bushed commune hippies back in the 70's, but you will not find him hanging out with Jeffery Epstein.


Keep your free shit.


Vermont is worthless.


The most embarrassing part, is that you think Bernie will be any different.
 
Keep your free shit.


Vermont is worthless.


The most embarrassing part, is that you think Bernie will be any different.
Bruh, what "free shit"?

I don't care about "free shit". You've been watching WAY too much Fox and AJ. It's not about "free shit". Bernie's not even my top candidate but he is the only realistic option aside from Biden, and Trump has 100% proven to be a massive fraud and owned by Israel. It is about not having our kids die in wars for profit and doing Israel and Saudis dirty work. Foreign policy should not trump all, but when we are playing footsie with WWIII, murdering millions, creating an immigration crisis, and sending millions of children and girls into the sex slave trade, then yeah, it's a problem.

Just admit, bruh, you think Bernie is going to take all your money and give it to Mexicans. Like I said, actually come to Vermont and check it out. It is far from worthless, that is why everyone thinks it is one of the greatest states when they actually go there. Travel over the boarder to NH and its like you entered a war zone by comparison. It is the one state where Styxhexenhammer and Bernie can get along as neighbors and McDonalds and Walmart do not litter the landscape.
 
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Uge accomplishments...
Like it took a black man in Chapelle calling out the PC Woke Culture Hysteria, it will take a Jew to go against Israel and not be fearful of being called 'anti-semitic'. Trump is the most controlled Zio actor ever. Even worse than LBJ.

Would you rather go to war with Iran and see 10,000,000 murdered, have you country lose trillions more dollars, or have a guy in office that says some cringe SJW stuff? I'm no liberal, bro, and like I said, I voted for Trump and am more libertarian leaning. As a Vermonter tho, I can tell you Bernie is not what main stream media paints him as. He is a bit nutty, yes, definitely in bed with the SJW culture (which is cringe but really harmless if you are not brainwashed by twitter), but he will absolutely try to keep the middle class' interest at heart an not be a war hawk like Obama and Trump.
 
Bruh, what "free shit"?

I don't care about "free shit". You've been watching WAY too much Fox and AJ. It's not about "free shit". Bernie's not even my top candidate but he is the only realistic option aside from Biden, and Trump has 100% proven to be a massive fraud and owned by Israel. It is about not having our kids die in wars for profit and doing Israel and Saudis dirty work. Foreign policy should not trump all, but when we are playing footsie with WWIII, murdering millions, creating an immigration crisis, and sending millions of children and girls into the sex slave trade, then yeah, it's a problem.

Just admit, bruh, you think Bernie is going to take all your money and give it to Mexicans. Like I said, actually come to Vermont and check it out. It is far from worthless, that is why everyone thinks it is one of the greatest states when they actually go there. Travel over the boarder to NH and its like you entered a war zone by comparison. It is the one state where Styxhexenhammer and Bernie can get along as neighbors and McDonalds and Walmart do not litter the landscape.


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Democrats are literally running on free shit. It’s the only thing they have.

You’re new here, perhaps learn who you’re talking to before embarrassing yourself. I listen to npr, I do not watch Fox News. I am a n admitted partisan. If I chose to waste my time, I could out debate you on either side of any topic. Because unlike you, I didn’t just start paying attention last week.


A) you’re incredibly naïve to think that Bernie Sanders, a man who’s never accomplished anything, will be able to implement change on a massive scale like the one you’re fantasizing about. He will literally get nothing done, just like he always has.

B) you keep on pushing this line that I’m some kind of racist. I can guarantee you I’ve spent more time hanging out in the hood, chilling with people of all colors, and actually doing something to help the struggling minority people, then you have. In reality, you are the bigot. You see someone who rightfully calls you a moron because of your naive political analysis, and you automatically jump to “you’re a racist”.

How many black people do you even know in Vermont?


PS, I’ve been to Vermont, it’s useless.
 
Like it took a black man in Chapelle calling out the PC Woke Culture Hysteria, it will take a Jew to go against Israel and not be fearful of being called 'anti-semitic'. Trump is the most controlled Zio actor ever. Even worse than LBJ.

Would you rather go to war with Iran and see 10,000,000 murdered, have you country lose trillions more dollars, or have a guy in office that says some cringe SJW stuff? I'm no liberal, bro, and like I said, I voted for Trump and am more libertarian leaning. As a Vermonter tho, I can tell you Bernie is not what main stream media paints him as. He is a bit nutty, yes, definitely in bed with the SJW culture (which is cringe but really harmless if you are not brainwashed by twitter), but he will absolutely try to keep the middle class' interest at heart an not be a war hawk like Obama and Trump.


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We’re not going to war. Go change your tampon.
 


Pretty fucking funny, I wish Bernie would learn how to talk like this; simple and down to earth. No fluffy bullshit about virtues or guilt mongering.
 
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Democrats are literally running on free shit. It’s the only thing they have.

You’re new here, perhaps learn who you’re talking to before embarrassing yourself. I listen to npr, I do not watch Fox News. I am a n admitted partisan. If I chose to waste my time, I could out debate you on either side of any topic. Because unlike you, I didn’t just start paying attention last week.


A) you’re incredibly naïve to think that Bernie Sanders, a man who’s never accomplished anything, will be able to implement change on a massive scale like the one you’re fantasizing about. He will literally get nothing done, just like he always has.

B) you keep on pushing this line that I’m some kind of racist. I can guarantee you I’ve spent more time hanging out in the hood, chilling with people of all colors, and actually doing something to help the struggling minority people, then you have. In reality, you are the bigot. You see someone who rightfully calls you a moron because of your naive political analysis, and you automatically jump to “you’re a racist”.

How many black people do you even know in Vermont?


PS, I’ve been to Vermont, it’s useless.

Trump is a bitch of bankers and billionaires. You aren’t real men. If you had any balls and weren’t cowards you would have put the Koch brothers in jail by now. It’s hilarious that you think you can sling shit at Sanders but your man has nothing to say about Wall Street or Saudi Arabia. The rot runs deep, right to the core of your pathetic excuse of a soul. Keep shilling for those tax dodging elites, the same people who import undocumented immigrants while they move manufacturing to China to escape American unions.

You aren’t worth the dirt on Sanders’ shoes, learn your place. Can’t believe I have to be the one to dog walk you after all the retardation you’ve been flooding this thread with, but I got tired of waiting.
 
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I have been very skeptical of US foreign policy since I was a boy.

"By the time I saw a US military action that wasn't an instance of self-serving imperialist aggression, I was already a man."

Pretty fucking funny, I wish Bernie would learn how to talk like this; simple and down to earth. No fluffy bullshit about virtues or guilt mongering.

You want Bernie to be a rambling moron?

No thanks. I'll stick with the virtues and guilt mongering.
 
IMO Conservatives will vote anyway, the question should be who would motivate independents the most? I guess it's 1 - Sanders, 2- Warren and 3 - Biden.
I think turnout is going to be high regardless. 2018 midterm turnout was off the charts.

A lot of people are motivated to vote for Trump; a lot of people are motivated to vote against Trump.

From this perspective, the question becomes: Which candidate won't turn off people who basically wish to vote against Trump?

The answer is, and has always been, Biden.

The internet might not like Biden, but he is the Democratic candidate most likely to beat Trump among middle income voters and suburban white women.

He also does the best among African American voters and voters over 55. And, although he trails Trump by 12 points among white males, that is the best of any Democratic candidate.

That's a lot of voters who like Biden best.

https://morningconsult.com/2020/01/...es-biden-is-democrats-best-bet-to-beat-trump/
 
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