Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread v4

[Fawlty]

I hope someday to adopt a stray dog that is as blindly loyal to me as you are to our fellow anonymous poster. You are aware that Jack has accused people and/ or mocked their perceived mental disorders for years, right?

You're probably too dumb to imagine that there could be a context for me saying that which you're not aware of.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

You're probably too dumb to imagine that there could be a context for me saying that which you're not aware of.

No context necessary to realize you’re Jack’s pet.
If there is a deeper context as you are alluding to now then you should have respected that context and sent your concerns via pm (but then Jack wouldn’t pat you on your head for being such a good boy).

 

[Aldo4Ever]

Eric Levitz: It is true that Bernie Sanders's foreign policy vision flouts the conventional wisdom of both major parties. It is also true that the conventional wisdom of both major parties is largely insane. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/01/bernie-sanders-is-running-on-a-moderate-foreign-policy.html…



#VoteForSaneForeignPolicy @IGIT @JudoThrowFiasco @58miles

 

[b-hop]

I doubt Sanders will pull troops out of middle east for Israel, since he is a jew.

 

[Aldo4Ever]

I doubt Sanders will pull troops out of middle east for Israel, since he is a jew.

There is a solid group of prominent and influential American Jews who consistently and stridently criticize Israel's atrocities. This group includes Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, Michael Brooks, Sam Seder, and Bernard Sanders.

I think a bigger concern is that Sanders would get "struck by a bolt of lightning", "commit suicide", or befall a similar fate shortly after taking office. Good thing he had this falling out with Warren, making it very likely he would name Gabbard as his VP pick. Of course, Gabbard might also "slip on a banana peel" thereby falling to her death, but two "accidents" in a row would seem harder to pull off. Get aboard the Sanders train, bro.

 

[b-hop]

There is a solid group of prominent and influential American Jews who consistently and stridently criticize Israel's atrocities. This group includes Noam Chomsky, Glenn Greenwald, Michael Brooks, Sam Seder, and Bernard Sanders.

I think a bigger concern is that Sanders would get "struck by a bolt of lightning", "commit suicide", or befall a similar fate shortly after taking office. Good thing he had this falling out with Warren, making it very likely he would name Gabbard as his VP pick. Of course, Gabbard might also "slip on a banana peel" thereby falling to her death, but that would seem harder to pull off. Get aboard the Sanders train, bro.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/where-does-bernie-sanders-stand-on-israel-2/

So Sanders agree the Hamas is a terrorist organization, wich in turn is funded and train by no other than Iran commanded by Suleimani, who he rant about getting put down.

Very dishonest guy.

 

[Aldo4Ever]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/where-does-bernie-sanders-stand-on-israel-2/

So Sanders agree the Hamas is a terrorist organization, wich in turn is funded and train by no other than Iran commanded by Suleimani, who he rant about getting put down.

Iran is not our enemy. Iran is Israel's enemy, as you pointed out. No more wars for Israel. No more assassinating Iranian leaders, no more overthrowing Iran's government, no more starving the Iranian people via sanctions. Out of the major candidates, only Gabbard and Sanders get this. Trump sold his soul to Israel a long time ago.

 

[MVelsor]

Iran is not our enemy. Iran is Israel's enemy, as you pointed out. No more wars for Israel. No more assassinating Iranian leaders, no more overthrowing Iran's government, no more starving the Iranian people via sanctions. Out of the major candidates, only Gabbard and Sanders get this. Trump sold his soul to Israel a long time ago.

The ideal would be to cut off all forms of aid to the IDF, lift all economic sanctions on Persia and withdraw all military support for the House of Saud to let them determine their own destinies. JCPOA in conjunction with US energy independence and lifting of the crude export ban was a clear avenue towards non-interventionism in ME affairs.

If we're holding to ideological principles (lol), our secular constitutional republic has no business holding such strong bonds to 21st century fundamentalist Islamic monarchies nor analogous apartheid states. And yet, the Trump Admin has only doubled down on toxic alliances and pushed for escalation where there needn't be any.

 

[MVelsor]

FWIW I assumed you were in the same bucket as someone like @Jack V Savage and myself are in - liberal minded (solidly liberal too) but conscious about costs/benefits, see the benefits and downsides of markets, etc..

As far as the WR goes looks like we're in no mans land. The progressive think we're no better than Republicans and the conservatives think we're socialists. Good times.

Liberals (My Brain + Pockets)

@58miles
@Fawlty
@Gandhi
@IGIT
@Jack V Savage
@kpt018
@nac386
@PolishHeadlock2
@Quipling
@Turtle Up

Progressives (My Heart)

@Anung Un Rama
@BarryDillon
@deviake
@dissectingaorticaneurysm
@franklinstower
@Gutter Chris
@LuchaBear
@Sano
@tatanos
@Trotsky
@ultramanhyata
@xcvbn

 

[VivaRevolution]

Shinigami for president

 

[VivaRevolution]

Sanders climbs, now tied with Biden among registered voters: Reuters poll


NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders has been steadily climbing in popularity this year and is now tied with former Vice President Joe Biden for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination among registered voters, according to a Reuters/Ipsos national poll.

The online poll, released Thursday, shows that 20% of registered Democrats and independents said they would back Sanders over 11 other candidates to run in the general election against President Donald Trump, an increase of 2 percentage points from a similar poll that ran last week.

Another 19% supported Biden, 12% said they would vote for Senator Elizabeth Warren, 9% backed former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and 6% said they would support Pete Buttigieg, the former mayor of South Bend, Indiana.

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1ZG00D


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The surge is real.

Here is also a poll showing Bernie doing significantly better against Trump in Florida than the rest of the field.

Vice President Joe Biden edged out Trump 51.4%-48.6% in a hypothetical matchup, according to a poll from Florida Atlantic University.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., performed even better, beating the president 52.9%-47.1%. Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts led Trump by less than 2 percentage points, 50.8%-49.2%. And the poll found former South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg in a 50%-50% tie with the president.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4488735002

Discuss......

 

[tatanos]

 

[Neph]

Surely if Bernie wins the nomination, Trump will win another term?

 

[VivaRevolution]

Surely if Bernie wins the nomination, Trump will win another term?

I mean, with Florida clearly looking favorable for Trump, it's a no brainer.

 

[nostradumbass]

I mean, with Florida clearly looking favorable for him, it's a no brainer.

Online polling from the state with the highest senior citizen population? Almost 20% of the state are a demographic that barely use the internet, and happen to also be the most anti-socialist age demo. I hope you're not putting too many eggs in that basket.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Online polling from the state with the highest senior citizen population? Almost 20% of the state are a demographic that barely use the internet, and happen to also be the most anti-radical age demo. I hope you're not putting too many eggs in that basket.

If sampling works the way it is supposed to, they had a selected group, that represents Florida's demographics including older folk.

What was really surprising to me, is that I don't think Cubans are very fond of Bernie, and yet he is still showing this strength.

 

[Sketch]

That's great and all, but Biden is still the Nominee. The MSM and the Elite will not let this man near the White House.

 

[VivaRevolution]

That's great and all, but Biden is still the Nominee. The MSM and the Elite will not let this man near the White House.

Just like they wouldn't Trump, right?

People aren't listening to them anymore. Or atleast enough aren't that their power has been greatly reduced.

 

[nostradumbass]

If sampling works the way it is supposed to, they had a selected group, that represents Florida's demographics including older folk.

What was really surprising to me, is that I don't think Cubans are very fond of Bernie, and yet he is still showing this strength.

From less than 2 weeks before election day in 2016

From polling to early voting trends to TV ad spending to ground game, Donald Trump’s Florida fortunes are beginning to look so bleak that some Republicans are steeling themselves for what could be the equivalent of a “landslide” loss in the nation’s biggest battleground state.

Trump has trailed Hillary Clinton in 10 of the 11 public polls conducted in October. According to POLITICO’s Battleground States polling average, Clinton has a 3.4-point lead. Even private surveys conducted by Republican-leaning groups show Trump’s in trouble in Florida, where a loss would end his White House hopes.

 

[Overtures]

Yeah he’s my vote


He doesn’t give a fuck about anything