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2017 PotWR Round 3: The Jungle Primary

Sherdog PotWR Primary Ballot


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Yeah, the system seems set up to reward raids from other forums, and the change that enabled that was pretty under-the-radar. The outcome won't be as bad as last year, but this was disastrously mismanaged, IMO. If the plan is to make the process go quicker, candidates should be allowed to pass their support to someone else when they drop out.

I'd agree with you if I went into pcp's voter list and said "wtf? I don't know these guys". Here's the list though:
He's taken votes from both the left (m3tatr0n, strychnine) and right (gearsolidametal, Hogey, cincymma) regulars here as well as the people who appear to be more swing type votes (Judo, Diplomat). None of that list make me think he got the OT to flood in here and vote for him. I believe in Round 1, when he attempted to do so, only one guy managed to get in which makes me think the criteria threshold held up.
 
The forum raids only work if the posters are already war room posters, in which case already eligible to vote. Or are willing to put in some serious post whoring, which not many are.

From what I remember, only 2 people post whored to get in. Clippy and one of the OT guys
 
I'd agree with you if I went into pcp's voter list and said "wtf? I don't know these guys". Here's the list though:
He's taken votes from both the left (m3tatr0n, strychnine) and right (gearsolidametal, Hogey, cincymma) regulars here as well as the people who appear to be more swing type votes (Judo, Diplomat). None of that list make me think he got the OT to flood in here and vote for him. I believe in Round 1, when he attempted to do so, only one guy managed to get in which makes me think the criteria threshold held up.

Could be, but the top two vote-getters at this time (again, not bad options) and thus the ones likely to make it to the general (and note that they're already likely getting more support because they'r the only ones looking viable) are getting around 20% of the vote. Hard to see that as anything but a massive failure in the design of the system. We're actually more vulnerable to another troll from another forum winning than we were last year when it happened.
 
Gee, look at that, if we added up the votes of @HomerThompson @Rational Poster @Quipling @Falsedawn @JDragon , etc., the left leaning candidate would be the top vote getter so far.

But instead we’re going to divide the vote 10 ways and hand the election to the spam poster @pcptornado (nothing against you, I’m still a fan) and the center right candidate @irish_thug (nothing against you either).

Who could have POSSIBLY predicted this outcome?

@Lead you still say the Jungle Primary format doesn’t give a huge advantage to ideological outliers?

See the problem of waiting to see how things shake out @Jack V Savage , etc.?
Sucks to suck cuckyshot.
 
There are two spectrums to factor in the race lucky. Ideaology and Establishment (WR) v. Outsiders (OT/SB/MB). I am not surprised at all how this is shaping up if you saw my 298 BSDATA model in last thread:
TwoNinetyEight Analysis Coverage of PotWR Election

As you can see, @irish_thug positioned himself away from the far right candidates AND he also has cross appeal between both longtimer WR posters and more casual ones. No other candidate is positioned close to where he is which is why he was in a group by himself and one of the 10 candidates I thought who had a chance to advance. Now you can complain a left leaning candidate isn't doing well but you're point that ideological extremes cater to this are off when you consider Irish is doing well. If you were correct, guys like Space/Colby25 would've beat out irish a bit or Homer/Rational would be receiving way more votes combined.





Oh look, Fawlty decided to come in after two weeks of doing nothing to help a campaign and start complaining about the ones that are doing successful and the election itself. I will note your well thought out criticisms. Here's some useful information for a change. Only 20% of the vote is in. You could actually try to help a campaign/coalition get to the next round. There is definitely enough time for things to turn around for almost any candidate here.


I find this bizarre as well even though I did assume pcp could advance to the main. The race isn't over so it's to early to assume this but from what I've seen, pcp is running the best campaign just by looking at the threads alone. He's got two other posters constantly doing vote pcp posts. He immediately tagged the voters he knew he had locked so they'd vote early to give him a decent lead which is important for primaries. And who knows how deep his PM game is going right now. Its hard to complain why he is winning. He is simply just campaigning better than everyone else.


Split votes is always going to be a con of this system. I don't want certain aspects added that would incentivize people to vote strictly party line. If we do that, we may as well tally the amount of left and right posters and call it each year for who won. The focus of this round is a candidate oriented primary, not an ideological/party one. You almost only need about 10% of the total vote to advance in this round which means if a left, right, outsider poster truly wanted to advance and put a lot of time in to do so, they could. The disadvantage they would have if they truly were just a fringe candidate with only appeal to that 10% is they would lose in the general election. If they win the general election, that would prove us wrong.



@luckyshot @Fawlty @Jack V Savage, this is what you should be doing if you truly want a left candidate to win. 80% of the vote is remaining so to call it over is very pessimistic.
The left always eats itself, look at this shit haha!
 
Yeah, the system seems set up to reward raids from other forums, and the change that enabled that was pretty under-the-radar. The outcome won't be as bad as last year, but this was disastrously mismanaged, IMO. I would have thought that after it flopped last year, there would be improvements to the system designed to avoid another flop. If the plan is to make the process go quicker, candidates should be allowed to pass their support to someone else when they drop out.
Another dimwit that's mad a leftist twat isn't going to win haha!

Hack, you got RAPED last year. It's good you didn't run again after that embarrassment. Only a few people like you and it hurts that fragile ego, i can tell.

You don't have the wit nor the gift of gab to become WR President. Just like mams told you: YOU'RE A LOSER JACK!!
 
Still, if it only takes 10% or so of the vote to make it to the final two, it's really easy to manipulate the system. And a huge change in the system from year to year should get more publicity. It's hard to imagine a more poorly designed process, IMO.

Judging by this thread alone (Round 3) and just the posts in it, do you think pcp's campaign is one par with some others here or he is doing above average at least in what he's doing? The things I see him doing are the same things any other candidate could pull off but they didn't yet. Viva and Homer at least figured out the VP aspect but needed someone more active probably. pcp was the only candidate to send a post out when round 3 started with the locked voters he knew he had to get up fast. This is just really basic stuff that I can't feel bad for others that he is leading right now. He is doing objectively better than everyone else in this round.
 
@AgonyandIrony you like coke, right bud? Me too! Vote PCP!

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@BEER you like beer? What a coincidence, so do I! Vote PCP!

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Last night, drunk idiot me thought we got 3 votes this round in order to narrow the field, (that was a thing last year, yes? o_O) and gave @snakedafunky one out of my 3 imaginary votes. Derp.

Vote snake!

Lol
 
Last night, drunk idiot me thought we got 3 votes this round in order to narrow the field, (that was a thing last year, yes? o_O) and gave @snakedafunky one out of my 3 imaginary votes. Derp.

Vore snake!

Lol

I think it was talked about last year but it was only single vote last year as well.
 
I think it was talked about last year but it was only single vote last year as well.
You'd think I had this figured out with the amount of time I spend reading this thread? Nope.
 
Judging by this thread alone (Round 3) and just the posts in it, do you think pcp's campaign is one par with some others here or he is doing above average at least in what he's doing? The things I see him doing are the same things any other candidate could pull off but they didn't yet. Viva and Homer at least figured out the VP aspect but needed someone more active probably. pcp was the only candidate to send a post out when round 3 started with the locked voters he knew he had to get up fast. This is just really basic stuff that I can't feel bad for others that he is leading right now. He is doing objectively better than everyone else in this round.
I told you pcp was going to surprise a lot of people.
 
@JDragon where the hell are you? All this talk about how I didn't do this and that and you're not even here fighting? You decided to run but you can't even muster up enough energy to take on some of these goofs?

I wanted you to win, I wanted you to have to take thd time to keep your promises and update the POTWR thread.... and look at ya... low energy Jeb and Hack V Sausage bullshit going on.
 
Judging by this thread alone (Round 3) and just the posts in it, do you think pcp's campaign is one par with some others here or he is doing above average at least in what he's doing? The things I see him doing are the same things any other candidate could pull off but they didn't yet. Viva and Homer at least figured out the VP aspect but needed someone more active probably. pcp was the only candidate to send a post out when round 3 started with the locked voters he knew he had to get up fast. This is just really basic stuff that I can't feel bad for others that he is leading right now. He is doing objectively better than everyone else in this round.
"I'm obfuscating my desire to be an OT poster, and my enjoyment of bland autistic shit stirring, but don't want to come off that way."
 
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