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Elections 2016 Presidential Election General Discussion

What percentage of the vote will third party candidates receive in total?

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HereticBD said:
Still banging that drum, huh? Jesus.

This is why nobody believes a damn thing you say.
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You don't have to believe me. It's objectively true. I've cited evidence before, but anyone paying attention can see it.

There is a philosophical issue, too. If Trump says something really stupid, and the media reports on it, is that a story that's biased against him? What if he says something stupid, the media reports on it, and also quotes someone defending it?
 
ehtheist said:
Meh, when someone else wants to discuss it. You've had me in your little box for months and the one time I've asked you to actually back up one of your accusations you claimed it would be too much work to actually get quotes of my exhibiting the behaviour you claim. I can tell your lifestyle doesn't allow you to spend much time around the forum though, so fair enough.
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One terrorist attack and Trump is back in the game. Have faith in our Muslim brothers.
 
HUNTERMANIA said:
No, not just inexperience. Gross personal defects and general character flaws that have shown up throughout his life.

I'm fine with saying #NeverHillary or whatever you want, but dude, we cannot have Donald Trump as President or anything close to it.

Another poster posted this http://www.newsweek.com/2016/08/12/donald-trumps-business-failures-election-2016-486091.html -- the important thing in this article has nothing to do with the businesses failing or not, it has to do with Trump's character and behavior leading to those failures and responding to those failures and we are seeing this EXACT person in this election. This isn't an attempt to defame or attack him, it's just talking about him honestly. Trump still hasn't learned even the most basic policy. He never will.

But this is a clear pattern.... it doesn't matter what I say, I won't need to explain anything in another month or so, Trump might not even be in the race. He will continue to be who he is and expose himself nationally. Unfortunately, the other candidate sucks too... vote 3rd party.
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I still can't get on board. Whatever personality defects Trump has (he definitely has them) pale in comparison to someone who is completely rotten to the core.

Gary Johnson sucks dick. If I was forced to vote third party, I'd probably go with Jill Stein despite having some major differences with her in some areas.

Trump > Stein > Vermin Supreme > Basil Marceaux > Gary Johnson > Killary

lol dude, the media is pushing the "Trump will drop out of the race" narrative. It's full retard. Don't buy the agitprop collusion.
 
saugeye killah said:
WTF happened? He briefly held a lead after the GOP convention, got leapfrogged following the DNC, went on an absolute rampage of media blunders and inaccuracies.

It's almost hard to believe he even got nominated, and yet here we stand a couple weeks after he had a lead and the election looks all but lost. Hillary looks like someone who knows they've got this locked up and is just in cruise control now.
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i heard about his 156 iq n at 1st didnt believe it, but the more i study the man, the more it seems to be true.

the guy is a master manipulator.

he has media pretty much eating outta his hand.

things can change quickly n thers still 3 months before the election.

jillary pretty much hit her peak at the nomination. dont think she can go any higher n can only lose support from now on.

on the other hand trump seems to want to start low n slowly move up n be at his peak just before the election.
 
I cant believe people are saying media is going after Trump. Last 10 days he has been absolute retard. Even Bill Oreilly his friend is guiding him through interviews and he tried his hardest to make Trump just apologies to the family and move on. Trump refused and said if you attack me, I have every right to attack you. He just doesnt get that a leader of a democratic nation will get people talking shit about him. Just let it go. Also the Dems have really figured out his mentality now and they dont care about talking about policies anymore. They just gonna goad him and its gonna work every time. after his interview a liberal asked Orielly you even brought it up for him, why didnt he just apologise. And bill had a look like he gave up and just shook his head and said I dont know....I just dont know
 
TheComebackKid said:
Right but the point he is attempting to make is based on a straw man interpretation of what I said
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The question mark at the end provides you with an opportunity to clarify your position, though. Just replying "strawman" to a question makes it seem like you're tucking your tail and running from the discussion.
 
In theory there is time to right the ship as it has happened before. I could even imagine it happening if his infrastructure were sound. Realistically, his campaign appears to be cooked. The party leaders hate him, his staff doesn't appear to be working together and are overburdened, and donors are hesitant. Instead of fixing these problems, the Trump response is to take petty vengeance on twitter.
 
DangDaGawd said:
The question mark at the end provides you with an opportunity to clarify your position, though. Just replying "strawman" to a question makes it seem like you're tucking your tail and running from the discussion.
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Don't be silly.

The answer to his question is "no where near this level". But he knew that.
 
TheComebackKid said:
Don't be silly.

The answer to his question is "no where near this level". But he knew that.
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But you could have answered that 3 posts ago and I would have never had to correct you on your misuse of the term "strawman." That was the point of this whole exchange.
 
I'm glad to see it. He is insane and should be seen as such. It's laughable to say the media is biased towards. Unless you view any publicity as good publicity, you would have to be blind not to see how the media constantly talks down about him, and ridicules him at all times. It's well deserved, but true.
 
TheGreatA said:
One terrorist attack and Trump is back in the game. Have faith in our Muslim brothers.
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Trump is a weak cuck bitch sucking Putin's cock like a whore. I'd rather have Obama and Hildawg drone striking fools daily.
 
Well the entire reason he is even at this point is his craziness. The media couldn't shut him out when he was a ratings gold mine, and the voting monkeys literally are controlled by their tv sets. Monkey see, Monkey do. He is banking on the craziest people being the most loyal, and he's probably right. I just don't see enough of them existing to offset the psycho social groups Bill's ball and chain is targeting. Rationale minded people don't turn out to the polls because A. They have to go to work and have a life, and B. They realize the entire thing is basically meaningless anyway. The only consistency between the two choices is that they will screw over anyone who doesn't qualify for welfare or capital gains.
 
Trump may lose the election, but I'm fairly certain Christopher Hitchens and Sam Harris concerns on islamic terrorism will prove to be justified in the end and we will all wish we had a better handle in who we let into this country.

It should also be clear that the jobs aren't coming back to the United States if things continue.

I think the fallacy Americans are making about Islam is that the people "moderates" don't really believe their holy books rather nasty attitudes about nonbelievers. I think we will all be in for a rude awakening. Certainly not in the next 20 years, but if the Muslim population of the United States is 20% it's probably game over.
 
Jack V Savage said:
You don't have to believe me. It's objectively true. I've cited evidence before, but anyone paying attention can see it.
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Just stop.

There is a philosophical issue, too. If Trump says something really stupid, and the media reports on it, is that a story that's biased against him? What if he says something stupid, the media reports on it, and also quotes someone defending it?
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Don't try to spin this. Your claim is ridiculously and laughably false. You know it too, but you just can't help yourself.
 
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