Elections 2016 Presidential Election General Discussion

[LucasWithLidOff]

You're not making much sense Lucas

It will make a lot more sense in a few months when Hillary landslides the victory.

 

[colby25]

It will make a lot more sense in a few months when Hillary landslides the victory.

Even the staunch trump supporters at work are saying he's screwing things up and need to shut his mouth.

Trump is a smart man, a business man... He knows how to conduct himself professionally if he wanted to

 

[HeLLMuTT]

The msm and the entire political and corporate power structure, is working to destroy him and get Hillary elected. Why? Because globalism is their agenda and Trump is for nationalism.

That's what this all boils down to.

i heard about his 156 iq n at 1st didnt believe it, but the more i study the man, the more it seems to be true.

the guy is a master manipulator.

he has media pretty much eating outta his hand.

things can change quickly n thers still 3 months before the election.

jillary pretty much hit her peak at the nomination. dont think she can go any higher n can only lose support from now on.

on the other hand trump seems to want to start low n slowly move up n be at his peak just before the election.

To both notions of "Things changing quickly" and the blatant media assault on Trump(which it is IMO); In just 8 days Trump had a projection of 55.6% (july 27) chance winning the presidency and as of this morning it skydived down to 7.8%. Hillary at 92.1%, Johnson at 0.01%. It's reaaaallly hard to do that... Even for Trump. That's a onslaught of new polling "data" in just a couple days to send the numbers absolute opposite directions. To me it's mind boggling suspicious. Simply as that.

Those numbers come from :: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=2016-election#now

One other thing I notice is how the media and the left weighs things relative to Trump and Clinton. Meaning Trump says things that hurt someones feelings because he's a abrupt, rude, stubborn, arrogant etc or a evil rich businessman who had everything handed to him, He's a Dick. Now compare him neutrally to the list of things Clinton has going on from just the last few years. The army of pay to play toadies, every thing/dollar about the Clinton foundation and the nice people who fund it, hustling uranium, leaked emails(with more, more incriminating info coming supposedly), the home server deleted e-mails she scrubbed, Benghazi bloodshed, Saudi Arabian funding like a mofo... Plenty of additional evil ass stuff that woman has done in her lifetime.

If you had a old scale in front of you and just weighed things out. How would your result look? It just doesn't compared to me and definitely not in the way the media is making these two people out to be. Kinda sad kinda scary.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

i think Trump did this purely out of ego.

Billionaires are weirdos and lots of them obsess about being "one up" on other billionaires. Trump seems very likely like that. Lots of them mock him but he knows that if he were actually Pres he would have the one up for life on all of them.

 

[MASShole]

Halloween font.

Stop.

 

[colby25]

i think Trump did this purely out of ego.

Billionaires are weirdos and lots of them obsess about being "one up" on other billionaires. Trump seems very likely like that. Lots of them mock him but he knows that if he were actually Pres he would have the one up for life on all of them.

If he wanted to be president at this point he could. It'd be a shoe in lol. Just be professional that's it and it's his. No crazy ramblings- kicking babies out and the spot is his.

He doesn't want it.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Not nearly as much.

You have to be completely blind to pretend they go after Hillary in anyway as bad as Trump. Trump is an outsider and they won't hold back trying to destroy him. Hillary is the big money choice. She's the banker choice, wallstreet choice, elitist choice, she's the one. Usually both sides are bought and paid for so it doesn't really matter. The media can be un-biased because it doesn't matter. It's just the normal fox supports x, msnbc supports y and it's a good time. Now every media is putting Trump on Blast 24/7

how can you call a billionaire who just selected wall street and real estate buddies as advisors, a non-elitist?

could the reason that the media harps on him more than clinton not be as simple as him doing crazy shit all the time? i mean....the guy talked shit about john mccain for being caught in vietnam. he made fun of a handicapped man. he said he wants to kill the families of terrorists multiple times. the list goes on and on. you dont need conspiracies to discover why the media attacks him.

he brought it on himself intentionally, even. so to act as if he's some sort of a victim is absolutely silly. your average american isnt cool with that type of stuff, and for profit media knows what their consumers want.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Strawman

how so?

the man has seemingly intentionally used the media for over a year. he says inflammatory things and says in the headlines. now all of the sudden it MUST be some sinister shadowy plot by the media to end his campaign? it couldnt be as simple as....he is the ratings grabber by saying and doing the more outlandish things, and many people dont like some of those things when they see it?

makes fun of handicapped guy
wants to kill families of terrorists
wants to go beyond waterboarding
talks shit about POW's and has a feud with muslim vet's family

how could for-profit media NOT focus on this stuff? you dont need shadowy figures to explain this.

 

[berimBOWLoh]

If he wanted to be president at this point he could. It'd be a shoe in lol. Just be professional that's it and it's his. No crazy ramblings- kicking babies out and the spot is his.

He doesn't want it.

ummm.... he is crazy. thats why he has crazy ramblings.


all hillary had to do was not have a huge scandal and she was a shoe in but she is a scandalous liar.

leopards cant change their spots.

 

[TheStruggle]

Last week Trump was leading all the polls, this week his campaign is over.

You can tell the MSM is losing their shit at the fact that Trump can actually win and they have been on overkill coveraging every negative Trump story they can find. Meanwhile they are covering up low turnouts for Clinton rallies. They aren't even hiding their bias anymore.

 

[LucasWithLidOff]

Even the staunch trump supporters at work are saying he's screwing things up and need to shut his mouth.

Trump is a smart man, a business man... He knows how to conduct himself professionally if he wanted to

True. I grew up in the 80's, so I'm pretty familiar with the way Trump used to speak and conduct himself. He's no dummy. So why is he acting like a flaming dummy now after he's already wiped his rearend with the GOP lineup? I totally get why he was doing it in the primaries and it worked like a charm.

 

[MeatheadMike]

i think Trump did this purely out of ego.

Billionaires are weirdos and lots of them obsess about being "one up" on other billionaires. Trump seems very likely like that. Lots of them mock him but he knows that if he were actually Pres he would have the one up for life on all of them.

Yea this is the primary reason he ran, for publicity and ego... I don't think anyone including himself actually thought he would win the nomination. But since the Republican leadership's strategy to win votes is with "distractions", rather than their actual policies.... they've created the perfect environment for a guy like Trump to come in and beat them at their own game.

 

[Thunderflash500]

how can you call a billionaire who just selected wall street and real estate buddies as advisors, a non-elitist?

could the reason that the media harps on him more than clinton not be as simple as him doing crazy shit all the time? i mean....the guy talked shit about john mccain for being caught in vietnam. he made fun of a handicapped man. he said he wants to kill the families of terrorists multiple times. the list goes on and on. you dont need conspiracies to discover why the media attacks him.

he brought it on himself intentionally, even. so to act as if he's some sort of a victim is absolutely silly. your average american isnt cool with that type of stuff, and for profit media knows what their consumers want.

Hillary laughed about how shitty lie detectors are because her child raping client passed one.

The long list of women Bill supposedly raped.

How she treats secret service like complete shit.

How she deleted over 30,000 emails and should be prison.

She didn't support gay marriage until 2013.

Her past failings, like trying to reform healthcare.

Sniper Fire.

Benghazi.

Stealing super delegates from Bernie early on to make it appear the people wanted her, when he was getting the votes.

All just glossed over by the media for the most part. The emails were talked about shortly, mainly as a celebration that she wasn't going to prison and instead could still be president. A big sigh of relief for democrats.

But Trump eats a taco bowl and it's front page news. You're right though, the people do want to hear about Trump.

 

[HOLA]

They just want Trump to win. Any critique of their chosen one is inherently unfair to them.

If it was just the liberal media that was unfair, and not Trump's own actions actually being insane, then leading conservatives behind the scenes wouldn't need to stage an intervention, contemplate telling him to quit, and his campaigners wouldn't be on admitted suicide watch.

People trying to help him win aren't worried about media portrayal, they're worried about Trump's fucking mouth.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

WTF happened? He briefly held a lead after the GOP convention, got leapfrogged following the DNC, went on an absolute rampage of media blunders and inaccuracies.

It's almost hard to believe he even got nominated, and yet here we stand a couple weeks after he had a lead and the election looks all but lost. Hillary looks like someone who knows they've got this locked up and is just in cruise control now.

Have you ever bet on a live sporting event? This is like betting on the team that last scored a touchdown when we're only in the second quarter.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Hillary laughed about how shitty lie detectors are because her child raping client passed one.

The long list of women Bill supposedly raped.

How she treats secret service like complete shit.

How she deleted over 30,000 emails and should be prison.

She didn't support gay marriage until 2013.

Her past failings, like trying to reform healthcare.

Sniper Fire.

Benghazi.

Stealing super delegates from Bernie early on to make it appear the people wanted her, when he was getting the votes.

All just glossed over by the media for the most part. The emails were talked about shortly, mainly as a celebration that she wasn't going to prison and instead could still be president. A big sigh of relief for democrats.

But Trump eats a taco bowl and it's front page news. You're right though, the people do want to hear about Trump.

the problem with most of the stuff you cited, is that even though you wont admit it, because like most on here, youre a partisan ideologue, these accusations are open to interpretation. and even if everything youve said here is 100% the way it is (doubtful), most of these things CAN be excused and explained away by the clinton drones. in other words, they can find a way to not believe it.

trump's shit, on the other hand, happens ON CAMERA....repeatedly. theres no room for debate about many of these things. its not open to interpretation. media gold. ratings grabbing. its not rocket science, nor does it need to be a conspiracy. ANYONE who gets on the air and makes fun of the handicapped will be torched in the news. gets in a public feud with vets and POW's lol. how on earth could you expect to NOT be vilified? why should he not be? are those not villainous things to do?

and lmao @ emails being talked about "shortly" by the media. even bernie said "can we stop talking about the damned emails?!"

 

[HOLA]

Even the staunch trump supporters at work are saying he's screwing things up and need to shut his mouth.

I know a few of these types as well.

I think it's fucking demented what their reactions are. Trump says something egregious, acts terribly...and instead of reexamining their support of Trump (because they realize what he said is nuts) they only worry that it will hurt his chances of being elected.

They act like it was a natural disaster that Trump came across like an asshole, or whatever...they never seem to entertain that he actually is one.

"Oh no, he made fun of a handicapped man and lied about knowing him! People are going to get the wrong idea about him! "

 

[HOLA]

Have you ever bet on a live sporting event? This is like betting on the team that last scored a touchdown when we're only in the second quarter.

More like down 3-0 in a 7 game series and losing game 4 currently.

He can come back, but it would have to be historic. Surpassing what we've seen in all the past.

 

[Deleted member 196663]

More like down 3-0 in a 7 game series and losing game 4 currently.

He can come back, but it would have to be historic. Surpassing what we've seen in all the past.

If you're equating it to a 7 game series, that would mean polls actually count. They don't. There is one game and it's still being played.

 

[method115]

They are friends and Trump got in there for the sole purpose ensuring that Hillary becomes the next president. She's not exactly a likeable candidate.

How much are you going to post your friends to come to your daughters wedding?