Elections 2016 Presidential Election General Discussion

[Cuauhtemoc]

Name me 5 incidents of Iran terrorist attacks

Iran supports both Hezbollah and Hamas. They also shielded AQ for a while before AQ went full takfiri.

http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=118&x_article=1148

You're distorting what the dude said btw. Iran doesn't conduct terrorist attacks, he said Iran is the biggest STATE SPONSOR of terrorism.

 

[Jack V Savage]

Are you going to actually believe a word I say about which policies of hers I support, or is this going to be like the Bernie Sanders thing where I can outline why I support him multiple times and you’ll come back at me with “nope, still a Trump supporter”?

I don't know. Are you going to say what you support about her?

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

To that point, I think that meme was originally intended to represent how other REPUBLICANS felt about his candidacy.

A lot of dems were excited to get Trump in there, myself included because we thought this would happen. I just didn't think it would happen this quickly or spectacularly

Do you think other republicans would be doing any better? Jeb "low energy" bush? Ted "I support Israel" Cruz? John "who?" Kasich?

Hillary has been favored to win even before Trump decided to run.

 

[kpt018]

Why are you guys focused on the stupid headlines covering Trump and ignoring the big ones in the current news? He got massive coverage for asking Russia to interfere with an election using illegal means (kidding or not it's a huge deal) and the other big story of Trump asking why we can't use nuclear weapons (several times) during a security briefing. These are two massive blunders and the public is understanding more and more why is he is unfit for the job.

You guys do realize it isn't the stories about him eating KFC that are sinking him it's the really big stuff that covers the things he actually says!

 

[ShadowRun]

Any idea when they're going to do that with Hillary's campaign? I mean, at the moment how Trump eats chicken is front page news to a greater degree than the WikiLeaks e-mail scandal.

Yea this is crazy but I think a lot of people see beyond that, more than they think.

 

[TheComebackKid]

He did this to himself. You guys did this to the Republican party.

Next time...listen.

Sorry...its either Trump or establishment. I'm going Trump every time.

And the media is working around the clock to destroy him. Can't be denied.

 

[saugeye killah]

Do you think other republicans would be doing any better? Jeb "low energy" bush? Ted "I support Israel" Cruz? John "who?" Kasich?

Hillary has been favored to win even before Trump decided to run.

That's true, but nobody was more guaranteed to botch the election than Trump. Bush could have maybe hung around long enough for something to happen that would allow him to squeak into the white house like his brother.

It wasn't likely, but he wasn't going to blunder his way out of the race two weeks after the fucking convention....lol

 

[Slippery Kantus]

Are you going to actually believe a word I say about which policies of hers I support, or is this going to be like the Bernie Sanders thing where I can outline why I support him multiple times and you’ll come back at me with “nope, still a Trump supporter”?

He's a no-life troll, don't take his schtick seriously.

 

[TheComebackKid]

lmao hes a victim? this is the F'ing man who made fun of a handicapped person on camera. you cant spin that. this isnt the liberal media's fault.

this whole time, hes used the media to get attention with the wild shit he says. now that hes in a general election, it just isnt working anymore. i for one, am still not convinced that he ever really wanted to be pres. he was probably as surprised by his nomination as anyone else.

The msm and the entire political and corporate power structure, is working to destroy him and get Hillary elected. Why? Because globalism is their agenda and Trump is for nationalism.

That's what this all boils down to.

 

[saugeye killah]

Sorry...its either Trump or establishment. I'm going Trump every time.

And the media is working around the clock to destroy him. Can't be denied.

I think he's working around the clock to destroy himself. That's the weird thing.

 

[ehtheist]

I don't know? Ask them.

I'm not defending Hillary in the slightest, or the media's clear bias in favor of her. You can check my history in the other threads, in case you think I'm just taking a dig at Trump. I just think that for a lot of people, Trump was kind of symbol of protest to the status quo, but I'm not sure how serious everyone is about making him President. I don't think it was the Khan thing, or any other shit he's done that stopped his momentum. I just think the situation got real, and people aren't sure if they want to really commit to it.

Fair response. As I intimated earlier in this thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/i-ran-the-cia-huge-blow-to-trump.3308011/#post-119791561

I don’t think that the people supporting Trump are doing so because he’s articulate, his plan is outlined and he’s offering realistic solutions, or because he’s experienced or anything like that. They think he’s some icon of “fight the power” – ironic for a billionaire, or multi-hundred millionaire, or whatever – and that hasn’t gone away. The more the media gangs up on him, the more his narrative of “rigged system” speaks to his audience. His campaign has been high point to low point to high point the whole way and this is just another low point, and this is far from the end of the ride for him. As I said in the linked thread:

“The only things that could tear those interested in Trump’s position away from him are either A) he is truly and unquestionably revealed to be a fraud, B) another “anti-establishment” candidate were presented that would draw people away from him. As it stands, more “establishment” types denouncing him really isn’t going to phase the people who are picking up what he's putting down.”

I don’t think this guy is done. That little meme I posted has a ring of truth to it – how many times have we heard “Oh, Trump is done now!” when his polls drop a bit. Every time his base rallies behind him. I really think the media focusing on him so heavily may actually be unwittingly reinforcing his narrative when balanced coverage of the two candidates would hurt him more, taking away the martyr effect to some degree.

We’ll see in a few weeks.

 

[Thunderflash500]

How many times has this exact thread been posted.

"Trump says x therefore his campaign is over!!!!"

Nah, he's doing fine. He's all you ever hear about.

 

[Falsedawn]

There's a bunch of unsubstantiated shit saying that Manafort is mailing it in and that the whole staff is just trying to be done with it because Il Douche is basically useless in an actual campaign.

No idea if it's actually true, but it makes sense based on what's been coming out of Il Douche's camp.

 

[Hans Gruber]

Name me 5 incidents of Iran terrorist attacks

From the State Department:

Iran is the top state sponsor of terrorism. The report highlights their support for Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, They set up terrorist bases in their cities. The Quds train Afgans in Iran to carry out acts of terror etc

I mean...come on. You were dead wrong and got called out on it...unless you have info that the State Department doesn't.

Very moronic of you. Just keep your mouth shut when you don;t know what you are talking about. (That would probably make you a mute though)

 

[ehtheist]

I don't know. Are you going to say what you support about her?

Meh, when someone else wants to discuss it. You've had me in your little box for months and the one time I've asked you to actually back up one of your accusations you claimed it would be too much work to actually get quotes of my exhibiting the behaviour you claim. I can tell your lifestyle doesn't allow you to spend much time around the forum though, so fair enough.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

The msm and the entire political and corporate power structure, is working to destroy him and get Hillary elected. Why? Because globalism is their agenda and Trump is for nationalism.

That's what this all boils down to.

so the media wouldnt be criticizing/attacking trump without a conspiracy going on?

 

[Jack V Savage]

The more the media gangs up on him, the more his narrative of “rigged system” speaks to his audience.

What's crazy about this theory (which is totally unbiased, I'm sure) is that objectively, the media has been ridiculously biased in favor of Trump.

I don’t think this guy is done. That little meme I posted has a ring of truth to it – how many times have we heard “Oh, Trump is done now!” when his polls drop a bit. Every time his base rallies behind him.

The base rallies behind him, but the base of the GOP isn't enough to win an election, even with the media's help.

Meh, when someone else wants to discuss it.

Yeah, I didn't think you'd have a response other than personal attacks. Cool. You're going to do what you're going to do, but you'll forgive me if I pick up on it.

 

[HereticBD]

What's crazy about this theory (which is totally unbiased, I'm sure) is that objectively, the media has been ridiculously biased in favor of Trump.

Still banging that drum, huh? Jesus.

This is why nobody believes a damn thing you say.

 

[Thunderflash500]

so the media wouldnt be criticizing/attacking trump without a conspiracy going on?

Not nearly as much.

You have to be completely blind to pretend they go after Hillary in anyway as bad as Trump. Trump is an outsider and they won't hold back trying to destroy him. Hillary is the big money choice. She's the banker choice, wallstreet choice, elitist choice, she's the one. Usually both sides are bought and paid for so it doesn't really matter. The media can be un-biased because it doesn't matter. It's just the normal fox supports x, msnbc supports y and it's a good time. Now every media is putting Trump on Blast 24/7

 

[Twelve75]

So much salt in the War Room and its only August.