Elections 2016 GOP/Democratic March 15th Primaries

[Joe]

He says that he's a great negotiator, etc, but he'll follow it up immediately with outrageous stuff like targetted murder of the families of suspected terrorists, and carpet bombing stuff. He's also big into rattling sabers over Iran. So like I said, he's volatile. He's the kind of guy who could easily let his ego get us into a war. Whereas the rest of them will get us into war for (still bad but) strategic reasons.

trump said let russia handle isis. he actually thought russia went into syria to target isis when it was completely obvious they were there to target assads enemies.

 

[TheStruggle]

Trump is winning because of the South...

fify

 

[ncordless]

I know it's been a four year cycle so the youth could be completely different but I do find it interesting Ron was the college pick in 2012 and Bernie in 2016. I believe Dean was 2008. I remember at my college the Ron crowd during the election. It would be weird to return to my college and see a Bernie crowd now.

Deaner was 04. Obama had a lot of college supporr in 08

 

[Lead]

Yeah like Trade. I mention something about Trade (completely unrelated to the candidates running) and people go on about how 99% of the world economist are wrong and that ONLY Bernie understands Trade.

Kinda like that where it would seem like a campaign ad but also where it was like a buzzword too. Like Bernie is brought up in passing and everything else in the sentence is thrown out and he is defended when nothing about him was attacked in the sentence.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Clinton is winning because of the South...

well she won Iowa, Massachusetts, Ohio and is likely to win New Jersey, New York, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, (home state is NY, and Maryland has large black voting population, and New Jersey has minorities as does Pennsylvania) so yeah... Also, won Nevada.

 

[Lead]

Deaner was 04. Obama had a lot of college supporr in 08

Yea, I got that messed up. Makes way more sense

 

[Joe Wong]

Genuine curiosity: What have they done do screw him over?

Super Delagates, coverage, debates...to list a few.

Everywhere you look, hillary is shown as having more than double the delagates count even prior to today because they always add in those super delagates.

That plays tricks with your average voter.

 

[Fawlty]

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He's been a business man for how long ? i think his tough talk is for show for the hawks out there and what not. Let's say Putin decides he doesn't like Trump and calls him a idiot you think hes going to say well eff you , we are going to war with Russia? don't tell me you buy into that. Also you are giving him too much power on what he can do as president, he says idiotic things but that won't go into a war lol

This stuff goes back to my most common complaint against Trump supporters. Look, what you're seeing up there is Trump, that's who he is. If you want to excuse his policy and rhetoric on the basis that he can't do any of it as president, then you have to excuse every other candidate too. And then what are we choosing from? A D&D die? We have to take people at their word for their bad ideas. But you're off base also for citing war powers as an area where the president is definitely beholden to the congress. One of the biggest complaints in this country is that our last two presidents have abused their executive authority militarily. Yes, I believe Trump is capable of starting a major war over somebody saying he has a small dick. That's a perfect description of his character.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Anung started it. It's a true statement. He supported the candidate of top-down class warfare in 2012 and the candidate most dedicated to fighting against that this time. Policy and its effects on real people's lives don't matter to the guy at all. It's all about the candidate with the "coolest" image. He appears to be a sociopath.

I'm not going to get in a thread derailing debate with you, just going to take a moment to call you out on your bullshit again.

I supported Ron Paul for his foreign policy and civil liberties platform, not his economic policies. You know this. You just like to spread lies and troll. It's amazing that you continue to paint your false narrative. But I get it, as a Democrat and Hillary supporter you definitely want to avoid talking about Clinton's neocon record and Dronebama's expansion of W's "War on Terror".

If Sanders ran in '12 I would have supported him then. Instead we had a guy who loved to terrorize innocent people with drone strikes and missile launches whilst letting Wall Street run amok. Just like Hillary will. My hand was forced, I had to support a guy with a record of non violence instead of following an empty slogan running on a corrupt platform.

 

[andnowweknow]

well she won Iowa, Massachusetts, Ohio and is likely to win New Jersey, New York, Maryland, and Pennsylvania, (home state is NY, and Maryland has large black voting population, and New Jersey has minorities as does Pennsylvania) so yeah... Also, won Nevada.

None of this changes my point. Dig deeper padawan.

 

[ncordless]

Yea, I got that messed up. Makes way more sense

Notably, Obama was the only one to take that enthusiasm and use it as a platform for broader appeal. '08 Obama was a monster of a candidate.

 

[Renard]

Did Bernie have any plans to speak tonight?

He spoke already. It was at the same time as Kasich.

 

[Fawlty]

trump said let russia handle isis. he actually thought russia went into syria to target isis when it was completely obvious they were there to target assads enemies.

He's rather clueless, yes. But he'll definitely get a free pass for those comments even now that Russia has backed off.

 

[Lead]

Notably, Obama was the only one to take that enthusiasm and use it as a platform for broader appeal. '08 Obama was a monster of a candidate.

More than just 08 though. The term limit looks like a mercy rule with this landscape.

 

[TheStruggle]

trump said let russia handle isis. he actually thought russia went into syria to target isis when it was completely obvious they were there to target assads enemies.

And you think the US is doing any better with ISIS, Our said they were contained the day before the Paris attacks

 

[Gandhi]

What other party was he going to vote with? He got in the race for a reason and it wasn't a list for power, and he's shown how different their ideologies and voting records are. He's supporting her the same reason Chomsky is, because the GOP is certifiable and the world is in too precarious a position.

You realize we are splitting hairs over how much he detests her and or the maintream democratic establishment? Point is Bernie acknowledges that it's at least the right direction vs the repub clsuterfuck. His crazy followers (some) that think trump is the next answer are hopeless.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

I'm not going to get in a thread derailing debate with you, just going to take a moment to call you out on your bullshit again.

I supported Ron Paul for his foreign policy and civil liberties platform, not his economic policies. You know this. You just like to spread lies and troll. It's amazing that you continue to paint your false narrative. But I get it, as a Democrat and Hillary supporter you definitely want to avoid talking about Clinton's neocon record and Dronebama's expansion of W's "War on Terror".

If Sanders ran in '12 I would have supported him then. Instead we had a guy who loved to terrorize innocent people with drone strikes and missile launches whilst letting Wall Street run amok. Just like Hillary will. My hand was forced, I had to support a guy with a record of non violence instead of following an empty slogan running on a corrupt platform.

Lol you actually think Obama terrorizes people and lets wall street run amok? How delusional are you. What exactly is Obama terrorizing and what exactly is wall street doing that bothers you?

 

[ShadowRun]

This stuff goes back to my most common complaint against Trump supporters. Look, what you're seeing up there is Trump, that's who he is. If you want to excuse his policy and rhetoric on the basis that he can't do any of it as president, then you have to excuse every other candidate too. And then what are we choosing from? A D&D die? We have to take people at their word for their bad ideas. But you're off base also for citing war powers as an area where the president is definitely beholden to the congress. One of the biggest complaints in this country is that our last two presidents have abused their executive authority militarily. Yes, I believe Trump is capable of starting a major war over somebody saying he has a small dick. That's a perfect description of his character.

I don't think any candidate will be able to do what they promise but maybe some and you think Trump would have 1 person die because of insulting words? he appears not to take crap and be non PC but thats about it. Have you watch his roast? how did he handle it... serious that is the level of thinking you have brought us to.

 

[Joe]

And you think the US is doing any better with ISIS, Our said they were contained the day before the Paris attacks

i fail to see trumps plan for isis being better. we will knock the hell out of them. sounds like a good plan. wish i thought of it.

 

[Joe Wong]

Here's a comment on bernies Facebook post 10 mins ago

"My brother was turned away twice today in Quincy Illinois because they ran out of democratic ballots. They were turning people away for at least 7 hours and told them they would call when they got more ballots. They never called so he went back just before the polls closed and they had never gotten anymore. He is really upset that he was denied his right to vote. I know this isn't the first time this has happened. What can be done?? This is outrageous!!!"

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