Elections 2016 GOP/Democratic March 15th Primaries

[panamaican]

I dunno why so many people have a hard time understanding why Sanders supporters would vote for Trump. They don't want ANOTHER establishment candidate, pure and simple. Sanders and Trump are the two biggest candidate for anti-establishment and they would rather a guy like Trump would Washington doesn't like than yet another Clinton in office for 8 years which is exactly what Washington wants.

So all of the differences between Trump and Sanders disappear because they're both anti-establishment? Doesn't matter if they would do completely different things while in office? That's a very superficial rationale.

 

[TheStruggle]

Trump winning Illinois is a great fuck you to Chicago

 

[ncordless]

Except that massive push towards Made In USA policy overlap. The economy is the single biggest issue of this presidency. This really isn't too complicated or surprising.

It's not even the economy. The economy is and has been doing well. Trump and Bernie is all about the people that used to get a bigger share of the pie wanting theirs.

 

[panamaican]

Not really. None of the others initiate conversation when it comes to it

So there's a candidate who's taken the position against more domestic manufacturing?

 

[Octavian]

Cool that would explain Bernie losing Ohio by 10-15.

I'm not seeing how this explains what we saw here.

Because there is about a 3.5 point flip in the types of counties that Bernie won in Michigan vs. Ohio in my personal opinion... when you then couple that with the trouble that he would naturally have in Cleveland (think about the demographics) and also in the southern parts of the state - Cincy or even Columbus, and it's not hard to see why he couldn't make inroads there. You're underestimating Clinton's staunchly embedded support in the more moderate vote. Ohio is not Michigan despite many pundits painting it that way throughout the week leading up to this.

I wouldn't be surprised if the polls tightened up in Ohio by a handful of points and it ended up 55-43.. something like that. Consider that Bernie won Michigan by 1.5% roughly... so I think you're getting a little over-amped about the meaning of that win. In reality, he basically split the vote with Clinton there and again, it's not Ohio and especially not southern Ohio.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Looking like Sanders may wind up taking Illinois and Missouri

Doesn't matter. Clinton by 20% in Ohio, which again is a bunch of BS, now that with only 10% more of the vote in we have seen a 13% shift.

Something fucking stinks here.

All the counties were reporting with 3% in. What caused the 13% shift?

Where are my statistical analysis guys? @Ghandi where you at?

Does someone want to explain to me how we can be showing a 13% swing when all counties were reporting?

 

[japman40]

Just because the GOP is a circus doesn't mean that Sanders gains some kind of credibility through that. The media didn't treat Trump seriously either yet somehow he's coming out of that clusterf__ in the lead.

I never said that's what made him credible. Sanders keeping the race close thru today, doing well in Congress, and having good popularity with his state public does that by itself.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/2016_presidential_race.html

Those look like "credible" numbers to me. The polls have Sanders beating every Republican candidate in the general.

And Hillary? Losing to all but Trump

 

[xcvbn]

So all of the differences between Trump and Sanders disappear because they're both anti-establishment? Doesn't matter if they would do completely different things while in office? That's a very superficial rationale.

I think Trump's liberal ideas will surprise the monkeys voting for him. No way he sends US troops to fight ISIS and no way he reverses universal healthcare just to have it explode in his face. He'll be a lame duck and further enrich himself for 4 years then peace out and hopefully have a massive stroke and live.

 

[ShadowRun]

see, this is what I mean. How serious a candidate can he be if his supporters would turn to Trump, a man with whom there is almost 0 policy overlap.

To be fair I've seen Hendo in other post over the months suggest he is more for Trump than Clinton. I don't think its a emotional response to Sanders losing..

 

[ncordless]

Trump winning Illinois is a great fuck you to Chicago

Trump is winning Illinois by winning in Chicago.

 

[TheStruggle]

So all of the differences between Trump and Sanders disappear because they're both anti-establishment? Doesn't matter if they would do completely different things while in office? That's a very superficial rationale.

If you don't get what you want with Sanders it becomes Clinton who will do nothing but the exact same we have seen since OG Bush or a Clinton would will actually make a shake up in town you already know is corrupt as shit. A vote for Clinton is basically giving up for another 8 years

 

[K1levelgrappler]

So all of the differences between Trump and Sanders disappear because they're both anti-establishment? Doesn't matter if they would do completely different things while in office? That's a very superficial rationale.

It's almost as if Sanders supporters have no policy preferences whatsoever and are simply bandwagoners and personality cultists.

 

[TheStruggle]

Trump just won Illinois

 

[VivaRevolution]

Because there is about a 3.5 point flip in the types of counties that Bernie won in Michigan vs. Ohio in my personal opinion... when you then couple that with the trouble that he would naturally have in Cleveland (think about the demographics) and also in the southern parts of the state - Cincy or even Columbus, and it's not hard to see why he couldn't make inroads there. You're underestimating Clinton's staunchly embedded support in the more moderate vote. Ohio is not Michigan despite many pundits painting it that way throughout the week leading up to this.

I wouldn't be surprised if the polls tightened up in Ohio by a handful of points and it ended up 55-43.. something like that. Consider that Bernie won Michigan by 1.5% roughly... so I think you're getting a little over-amped about the meaning of that win. In reality, he basically split the vote with Clinton there and again, it's not Ohio and especially not southern Ohio.

Then you are pointing to why I believe there was fraud committed here. I do not have a degree in statistics, but I know enough that when you have every county reporting, that a 20% + swing in the results is absurd.

 

[Max Power]

Trump winning Illinois is a great fuck you to Chicago

 

[Possum Jenkins]

LOL, 33% of Sanders supportetrs say they will not vote for Clinton. The idiot DNC, just gave Trump 33% of Sanders supporters to Trump.

Yeah, they're saying that right now because putting Hillary and Bernie side by side makes Hillary look really bad.

But they got 8 months to picture a GOP president. And 8 months of putting Hillary and Trump side by side. When you do that, Hillary is an absolute delight.

 

[TheStruggle]

It's almost as if Sanders supporters have no policy preferences whatsoever and are simply bandwagoners and personality cultists.

Sounds like Clinton supporters are butthurt that she won't blindly get Sanders votes as well.

 

[VivaRevolution]

It's almost as if Sanders supporters have no policy preferences whatsoever and are simply bandwagoners and personality cultists.

Or that we hate criminals that are for sale to the highest bidder.

Tell Hillary Goldman Sachs yanked on her chain, and wants her to come to heel.

 

[xcvbn]

So there's a candidate who's taken the position against more domestic manufacturing?

Clearly that was what I alluded to. Aren't you a lawyer? Christ I hope not

 

[panamaican]

They're not voting for Trump, just mentions they won't vote for Hillary. Sander supporters probably not voting at all

I usually Don't vote for candidates during the elections because i feel dirty doing so, i usually just vote for the propositions only.

Going to have to re register back to independent after i vote for Bernie in June. Damn late West coast primaries

Not voting is one thing but he was talking about voting for Trump instead. It's like saying that if you can't watch a children's cartoon, you're demanding to watch an African documentary on child soldiers. How one follows that other escapes me.

Glad I'm not a democrat. I, at least, understand my crazies.