2016 GOP Convention Thread V2

TheComebackKid said:
Right but what specifically. What aspects or attributes of these different things do you find to be mentally ill that all tie together?
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it has nothing to do with mental illness, as the poster before me has stated, but more to do with an inability to let go. a central part of conservatism is control -- no matter what GOP members say about 'big government' -- and most of those four share such a trait. add a failure to embrace modernity, holding onto some idealistic view of the world and the worlds beyond this one, and one can draw a line from one to another.

as far as nazism, if you look at the DNVP struggles of the 1900's, there you will find a right-wing struggle, which culminated in a splitting of said right-wingers. . . the rise of uber-nationism, the establishment of the third reich yadda yadda.
 
Strange Shadows said:
it has nothing to do with mental illness, as the poster before me has stated, but more to do with an inability to let go. a central part of conservatism is control -- no matter what GOP members say about 'big government' -- and most of those four share such a trait. add a failure to embrace modernity, holding onto some idealistic view of the world and the worlds beyond this one, and one can draw a line from one to another.
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This is too vague and general for me to address. Almost all of your points are based on false premises. For instance the idea of "not embracing modernity" is a completely false premise. Under this framework modernity is defined as "any change from the past". Under that definition it makes the idea of resisting bad ideas and negative changes synonymous with "a failure to embrace modernity". And the moment a conservative wants to make a change in a conservative direction well now liberals are failing to embrace modernity.

Also, the left is nothing but an "idealistic view of the world" in a never ending, eternal search for utopia. If thats not idealistic then I don't know what is. Is there a specific idealistic view that conservatives won't let go?

And as far as "control" goes...what are you talking about? Where do conservatives try and control beyond what is reasonable and universal for socieites? On the flip side isn't it the left that wants to control free speech, guns, bathrooms, wedding cakes, and everything else?

as far as nazism, if you look at the DNVP struggles of the 1900's, there you will find a right-wing struggle, which culminated in a splitting of said right-wingers. . . the rise of uber-nationism, the establishment of the third reich yadda yadda.
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Describe this right wing struggle for me, what do you mean by that?
 
TheComebackKid said:
So you're not going to answer the questions?

Are republicans afraid of immigrants or are they unhappy with illegal immigration? And do you support crime?
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I did, you just don't like the answers. Keep deflecting.
 
Well this is difficult to respond to thanks to how you quoted me lol.

1. I've seen estimates of about 10% in countries like pakistan having sympathetic feelings toward isis. Your dooming 90% of those people to suffer Sharia law by just banning immigration because of 10% of the population. Its not a valid stance to have by American definition.

2. this topic is discussed in the "What does the GOP need to do to get minority support". Denying that problems even exist is a solid way to broaden that gap when a minority is telling you over and over the problem exists, and only now are we getting body cam evidence to roll in. Its insulting to a group to say "I hear your complaint, but your wrong so fuck off this isn't an issue. What is an issue is the opposite of what your complaining about, even though I'm going to ignore stats that show less cops die under Obama than any other president in recent memory".

3. “When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.”

sodapopinski said:
lol @ Van Jones coming into the night open minded.

I'm sure Sean Hannity will be the same with the DNC next week.
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Van has repeatedly praised Trump's kids, as I have. And he (rightly imo) condemns trumps speaches as I have. Yes van is a hard lefty, but he's a fair lefty, not just a partisan hack. You wanna see someone who doesn't have an open mind? Dan Pfiefer and Jon Favreau.
As I said, there's really no point to this, because if you are so blind to this kind of hatred, then nothing I can say will change your mind anyway.
 
Rex Kwon Do said:
It's sad how far the left have made themselves into victims that supporting the police a couple of weeks after they were targeted for mass murder by anti-cop terrorists in two separate events is seen as racism instead of supporting stability and the rule of law in our country. Truly sad. The power of the word "racism" continues to weaken by the day.
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There are literally zero people in the Obama or Clinton teams who don't support the police. You can support the police (99.9% of which do their job properly), and still want justice for the fuck ups. Hell did Trump even mention the blacks that died unjustly? No, he'd rather point to the 10 police attacked by shitheads that Obama has repeatedly spoken out against and have said their actions are inexcusable. You can be pro police and still want the fuck ups to be held accountable. Not wanting that is just being a fucking authoritarian.
Hans Gruber said:
BS. You are the exaggerator that said DT Jr made an "Epic mistake" in his speech the other night for stumbling on words for a split second before immediately correcting himself
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LOL still stuck on this are you? "It was a good speech except the epic (omg I used internet lingo oh noes) where he mixed up a phrase that was supposed to make him seem like an every man, boots on the ground construction worker, and when he shat on forming opinions using data".
 
If you were a non-American without knowledge of what it's like here and you only heard Trump's speech you would think this place is a third world country in the middle of a war zone.

Does anyone actually like Trump's speech that isn't an authoritarian?
 
Streeter said:
Damn u really are that sensitive Sally

Hate to break it to ya but yeah it woyld be better and safer for America to pit a ban on Muslims entering the country until this ISIS thing gets under control.

Are you saying it's the cops fault they were gunned down?

So ok he,didn't say warm things about ILLEGAL FUCKING IMMIGRANTS .......

I guess you can't grasp tbe concept of illegal. It's truly sensitivity and comments /opinions like yours that is a big reason why the country is so Pussified and fucked up.
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Its astonishing how fucking stupid some of you really are.

Banning immigration based on religion is the definition of unamerican. Know what else would be a safer america? If we all just stayed at home and lived off our own little plot of land with no people interaction. Lets fucking do that while we're at it.

Absolutely not saying anything anti cop. I'm saying less cops have died under the obama administration than any other in recent time, and yet its being portrayed like BLM is out there executing them left and right. He choses to focus on fixing the problem of 20 cops dying a year instead of actually introspectively looking at an issue where over 900 people die per year at the hands of cops, regardless of race, justified or not.

And finally, reading comprehension my man "He didnt say anything positive about hispanics in general. The language he used ties hispanic to murderer." I even gave you an NBA comparison if your too much of a dullard to get my point.
 
Instead of riots, Cleveland has a party.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ot-in-cleveland-we-got-a-block-party-instead/

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Was pretty underwhelmed by Trump's speech...I expected more passion and his fiery attitude I'm used to.

It seemed this time, Trump tried to keep it calmer and more "professional".

I liked a lot of what he had to say, but a lot of it was just more of the same...these vows and promises to do incredible things, yet not an explanation of "how" to do it. I understand that in the allotted time he probably couldn't give an explanation for all of his goals...

I give his speech a solid C+.

in my opinion, Pence gave the better speech.

Let's see what Hillary and the DNC have to offer next week.

Right now, I'm still siding with Trump.
 
Trump on right now defending Cruz's father jfk assassination relation.
 
The thing that stood out in this convention was Peter Thiel said i am proud to be gay and proud to be republican and got standing ovation. It shows how the party is changing. I couldnt see a gay guy getting to the last day of a republican convention in one of the prime time slots and say this and get standing ovation.
 
Gervinho said:
The thing that stood out in this convention was Peter Thiel said i am proud to be gay and proud to be republican and got standing ovation. It shows how the party is changing. I couldnt see a gay guy getting to the last day of a republican convention in one of the prime time slots and say this and get standing ovation.
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Changing on appearance, but the GOP platform at the convention called for repealing marriage equality, conversion therapy for gay kids, and in favor of anti-LBGT laws.
 
sodapopinski said:
The fact that Donald Trump isn't some hardcore Republican is right down my alley.
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What about the fact that he has no experience, or the inability to tell the truth most of the time, or the inability to admit it when confronted with his lies, or the misogynistic behaviour, or the vindictive ad hominem attacks he uses to deflect instead of actually addressing criticism of his own actions? What about all that shit? How can you even consider for a moment voting for this asshole who would just as soon point at his wife's tits in public as shake hands with "the blacks"?

I can agree a choice between him and the rest of the republican candidates is like getting shit on or having to eat it, so just don't choose any of them.
 
kpt018 said:
Cruz, but I would definitely knee Jr in the face.

BTW, this is pretty hysterical. I wonder if Ted went off the rails and decided to stick it to Trump. I'm sure he's positioning himself for a 2020 run with the hopes that Trump tanks this election.
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They knew ahead of time that he wasn't endorsing Trump; although I'm sure they didn't expect him to say "vote your conscience", so I wouldn't say he went off the rails as much as Trump's people assumed (mistakenly) that he'd fall in line in the end.
 
ucunc156 said:
Cruz was by far the funniest part of the convention to date. Narrowly edging coked out Guiliani.

This had to be a spiteful move to try and sink trump regardless of what it does to his political career right? It was personal right? There's no way he thought this was the best way to position himself for 2020.
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So you think any of the guys that said Trump was dangerous, unqualified, inept, etc. that are endorsing him now are going to stand a better chance in 2020?

He gave an interview and said I told you that I wouldn't support someone that maligns my wife. For all the 'lyin Ted' jabs, he may have turned out to be the most honest in the GOP field.
 
PainIsLIfe said:
They knew ahead of time that he wasn't endorsing Trump; although I'm sure they didn't expect him to say "vote your conscience", so I wouldn't say he went off the rails as much as Trump's people assumed (mistakenly) that he'd fall in line in the end.
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That's pretty unorthodox, no? Why would you let some speak at your convention when you know that he will be even somewhat defiant?
 
kpt018 said:
That's pretty unorthodox, no? Why would you let some speak at your convention when you know that he will be even somewhat defiant?
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The Trumpetts will get mad at me for saying this, but the campaign is full of idiots.
 
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