2014 MLB Discussion v2: GOATolo Colon

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BRF said:
How much do they pay for little league in your area? We play hell getting reliable umpires in our league.
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Most of the youth ball is $60-$80 bucks a game (and usually have a 2 hour drop dead or no new innings rule). Each league contracts separately, so our assigner gives breaks to a few of his friends, but those games are usually the easiest. Men's league pays $80, but it's 9 innings, no time limit. My favorite is the weekend tourneys where you'll call 5 or more games at $60 a pop and each game is an hour and a half. Some of the leagues in the way out 'rural' counties pay extra because of the distance. Finding good umps is hard everywhere. I've worked crews with great umps, decent umps, and plenty of terrible ones. Also, every year a handful of the new idiots think it's like beer league softball and show up after drinking. They quickly get canned, but some terrible umps manage to stick around for years because they simply always show up and will take any game.
 
benjaminbuttons said:
LL umps were like HS freshmen half the time when i was in Little League, kids who didnt care at all and called anything close a strike.
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The only 'kid' in our crew of umps is the boss' son (he's really good though), and actually I guess he probably started college this year. I've heard stories of HS kids and younger from coaches (never goes well), but I never had a kid ump when I played.
 
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iwhoopedbatman said:
The only 'kid' in our crew of umps is the boss' son (he's really good though), and actually I guess he probably started college this year. I've heard stories of HS kids and younger from coaches (never goes well), but I never had a kid ump when I played.
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Ya the younger kid umps were mostly in the Minors or Major B or w/e different towns called it. The Majors was 10-12 year olds, Minors was the same but the older kids in the Minors were kids who sucked. I played in the Minors as a 10 year old so i could actually play instead of be a bench warmer. Minors were mostly full of cans, i remember striking out 18 in 6 innings lol.
 
Yeah, we just call it in-house (cans) and travel (good players) with whatever the age is here (if there are more official names in each league, I don't know them). The in-house leagues are easy money (since you never deal with bitchy coaches), but it's boring just watching walk, walk, walk all game long.
 
Wait they left Cliff Lee in the entire game? 128 pitches? That sounds like a bad decision...
 
INeedARemedy said:
Wait they left Cliff Lee in the entire game? 128 pitches? That sounds like a bad decision...
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I remember cliff lee pitched ten innings one time. Not sure what his pitch count was but that's ridiculous.
 
INeedARemedy said:
I found the league that batman works in. It's very... interesting

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That ump (referee) outfit is pretty fucking snazzy.

Cliff Lee will be fine. Pitch counts are retarded. It matters far more how quickly the game moves. You work fast, you can throw a lot more pitches before your arm gets tired.
 
Corona said:
I remember cliff lee pitched ten innings one time. Not sure what his pitch count was but that's ridiculous.
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He was actually under 100 pitches going into the 10th. He was mowing the Giants down all game. Cain coulda gone 10+ too but Bochy pulled him. :mad:
 
Lol at under 100 pitches through 10 innings. What a pathetic display of offense.
 
Corona said:
Lol at under 100 pitches through 10 innings. What a pathetic display of offense.
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Halladay is not impressed by Lee performance.

In 2003, Halladay pitched a 10-inning shutout against the Detroit Tigers. He allowed only three hits, struck out five and walked no one.

In 2007, Halladay got the Tigers again for 10 innings. At least this time, Detroit scored a run on him with a solo homer by Magglio Ordonez.

As if it weren't amazing enough that Halladay twice went 10 innings against the Tigers, the same pitcher took the loss for Detroit in both games. Fernando Rodney was tagged with the loss in each game, pitching a poor inning of relief.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-halladay-welcomes-him-to-the-10-innings-club
 
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I remember Maddux once throwing a complete game shutout on around 75 pitches. It was incredible.
 
pshhh contact pitching, give me the high strike out numbers
 
benjaminbuttons said:
I remember Maddux's strike zone being a million feet wide no matter who the ump was.
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Yep. The corners always seemed to include 3" off the plate in either direction. Dude had pinpoint control though, and knew he was going to get that call and he could put it there on command.
 
It was the 90's, everyone's strike zone was a mile wide. The umps basically took the by the book strike zone and rotated it 90 degrees. The league specifically addressed the issue last decade. Before that, in the 80's, it was damn near impossible to get a called third strike for some reason. Umps are always fucking around.
 
Don't recall the pitch count, but tough to top Wood's CG 1 hit shut out with 20 K's.
 
Got damn 10 minute replay for a pickoff at 1st, if you can't see it in 60 seconds it's inconclusive.
 
Jeff fucking Karstens threw an 80 pitch CGSO a few years ago. I remember thinking that was the weirdest thing ever.
 
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