20 died in limousine crash

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/nyregion/prestige-limousine-crash-schoharie.html

The limo went straight through a stop sign T intersection hit a parked car, killed two pedestrians and the limo fell into a shallow ravine. The driver didn't have the proper license and the car was a 2001 model that failed inspections, and the passengers were complaining about how much of a POS the limo was through social media.

The owner of the company was in fact an FBI informant who would pose as a radical rich Muslim and he helped foil two plots including one against a Synagogues in the Bronx, HOWEVER he became an FBI informant because he got caught taking money for hooking people up with illegal driver's license.
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I thought it was the owner's father who was the FBI informant.
 
My heart goes out to their families, but this is why you don't follow the herd. Limousines are not really safe. Just because the herd likes them, doesn't mean you should go along for the ride....
 
Did a google map search of 30 and 30a intersection in Schoharie. I used a terrain(topography) setting. Then it all made sense.

Schoharie is on the northern edge of the Catskill mountains. The valley is relatively deep, being carved out of glacial retreating and a prominent creek of the same name as the town. the section of route 30 south there has an almost 600ft drop in elevation over a mile before reaching the intersection. Take that, coupled with an overloaded vehicle, that isn't inspected, A modified vehicle at that, you/re just asking for catastrophic brake failure at a high rate of speed.

not to mention the fact that the Limo service was corrupt as %^@#.

Damn, we have a legit Holmes over here.
 
Crazy that everyone died. You’d figure a few people would make it. Hopefully it was painless.
 
holy moly rip to 20 people that's a lot.. The most I've seen is about 20 in Brazil... Absolutely brutal with bodies everywhere. ..
Da Silva flip flops must've been everywhere
 
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That is sad.
I am just wondering how 18 people inside the Limo died?
I don't think it burned out. That must have been one hell of a crash at very high speeds.
Like beans in a maraca.
 
Reporting is after the crash, screaming could be heard. I imagine the barrier wall between front and back a pile of bodies, each one smashed against another. Skulls cracked, broken necks and spines. For some it was instant and others not so much.
 
Well that's what they get for being democrats and/or republicans.


Is that what you were looking for in here?

The family must be crushed. I can't imagine. God better take me first, or I could be a problem.

I've been sick lately, so he probably will.
 
News reports state that the limos were in bad shape. And that the driver - who also died - complained about the poor condition of the limos. The limo was a 2001 Ford excursion. That is a pretty old limo, and the only reason to use that old a limo for that model and year is because the owner is a greedy asshole or he couldn't afford better. Owner should be held criminally liable, just like when a drink driver kills people. He deserves to be in jail for decades.
 
That is sad.
I am just wondering how 18 people inside the Limo died?
I don't think it burned out. That must have been one hell of a crash at very high speeds.

Reading a report they said the driver missed a stop sign and barreled into a parked SUV at high speed. They said the engine was pushed back into the drivers seat...so yeah, fucking scary shit and high speeds.
 
It hit an immovable object (a tree) at high speed. The body can't handle going from 60-0 instantly.

It hit a parked SUV, not a tree. Unless there's new reports stating differently?

"On Monday, investigators continued to search for clues as to what caused the 2001 Ford Excursion limousine to speed down a rural highway, through a stop sign and into an unoccupied car, killing 17 friends in the vehicle who were on their way to celebrate a birthday party."
 
I would like to know what happened.

How did the driver lose control of the vehicle? Why did it crash into a parked car.

One of the passengers texted that the motor was deafeningly loud and that they would all be deaf by the time they arrived at the pub.

It was reported that the vehicle failed inspection and shouldn't have been on the road.
 
It hit a parked SUV, not a tree. Unless there's new reports stating differently?

"On Monday, investigators continued to search for clues as to what caused the 2001 Ford Excursion limousine to speed down a rural highway, through a stop sign and into an unoccupied car, killing 17 friends in the vehicle who were on their way to celebrate a birthday party."

From the look of the crash pictures, it looks like it continued after hitting the pedestrians and vehicle until it hit an embankment. No sign of braking either apparently.
 
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