Crime 19 Children and 2 Adults dead in Texas school shooting.

[djacobox372]

I'm curious about what the medical reports said about the victims.. how many of them had survivable wounds if treated immediately?

 

[sherdogwantedtonamemekiki]

Have you seen the long video yet?


It baffles me how nonchalant that guy stands around, given that was his wife and he knew she was in there.

Goddamnit.

And all the fucking talking and fiddle fucking around right outside the classroom they were supposed to assault. Son of a bitch.

For almost an hour they sit there point guns down the hall at the other goddamn cops doing the same.

And the motherfuckers hauling backpacks full of fucking shit, and the big Fat motherfucker who you'd have to plunger through the door with a battering ram to get him in there.

Total tragic embarrassment from start to finish.

It could not have been worse, unless one of them popped smoke in the hall or set the building on fire for no reason.

I have not, but your enraged explanation of it seems sufficient enough for me to understand that this makes 0 sense.

 

[skold]

The hand sanitising station those cops tactically defended for 90 minutes got to go home safely to its family...

 

[So Fresh]

 

[Revolver]

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

Adding to that, I got this today from Education Slice, A newsletter for schools, etc.

"
Texas report criticizes police response to Robb shooting
A review by Texas lawmakers of the Uvalde school shooting found that widespread failures by hundreds of heavily armed law-enforcement officers resulted in a delayed confrontation with the shooter that may have cost lives. Although 376 officers from local, state and federal agencies rushed to the May shooting at Uvalde’s Robb Elementary, none took command of the chaotic scene, effectively leaving the inexperienced local school district police department to lead the response, according to the preliminary findings by a committee of the Texas House of Representatives. The 77-page report concluded that officers “failed to prioritize saving the lives of innocent victims over their own safety.” “These local officials were not the only ones expected to supply the leadership needed during this tragedy. Hundreds of responders from numerous law enforcement agencies—many of whom were better trained and better equipped than the school district police—quickly arrived on the scene,” the report said. Uvalde police, responding to a car wreck by the shooter and shots fired, were the first to arrive, and that should have made one of them incident commander, the report said. Once school police chief Pete Arredondo arrived, he would have been a natural person to assume command, but he didn’t consider himself the commander, he told the committee. “You can always hope and pray that there’s an incident command post outside,” the report quotes Mr. Arredondo as testifying. “I just didn’t have access to that. I didn’t know anything about that.” Furthermore, the committee found that law enforcement “did not remain focused on the task of ‘stopping the killing’ as instructed by active shooter training.” Though Mr. Arredondo was consumed with finding a key to the door of the classroom the shooter entered, no one ever checked if it was locked. It likely wasn’t, the report found. No one called the school principal, who had a master key to all classrooms. The preliminary findings by Texas lawmakers are the first from multiple ongoing probes examining what went wrong in the response to the massacre. They offer the most comprehensive analysis to date of the police response, which has triggered broad criticism from victims’ families, the Uvalde community and lawmakers. Texas DPS is conducting the primary criminal investigation into the shooting and law enforcement’s response to it. Separately, the U.S. Department of Justice is reviewing the law enforcement response to identify lessons learned."



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Uvalde gunman identified as at-risk student
A year before the Uvalde school shooting, the gunman had already earned the nickname “school shooter” — a running joke among those he played online games with. He had also started wearing all black and making over-the-top threats, especially toward women. The interim report on the shooting from a Texas House committee presents the most complete picture to date of Salvador Ramos, the 18-year-old who killed 19 students and two teachers in his former fourth-grade classroom at Robb Elementary. The findings are based on law enforcement interviews with family members, data on the shooter’s phone and testimony presented to the committee. He also shot and wounded his grandmother, Celia Gonzales, before storming the school. He was born in Fargo, North Dakota, but moved to Uvalde as a child with his sister and mother, who struggled with a long history of drug use. A former girlfriend interviewed by the FBI said she believed the shooter had been sexually assaulted at an early age by one of the mother’s boyfriends but that the mother didn’t believe him, according to the report. He started falling behind in school but never received special education services, despite being identified as “at-risk” and having someone request speech therapy for him, according to the report, citing school records. Beginning in 2018, he was recording more than 100 absences a year, along with failing grades. But the report authors said it was unclear whether a school resource officer ever visited his home. By 2021, when he was 17 years old, he had only completed ninth grade, the report’s authors wrote."



Over 300 pigs! That's a fucking army.

 

[ElKarlo]

Tragic. And protocol is they even if it’s you, alone you go in. If it’s it that, it’s a team of like 3 iirc. These guys are cowards and this is why people like Alex Jones gets views. None of this was necessary and it shows an entire system filled with bloat and rot

 

[jamel]

Adding to that, I got this today from Education Slice, A newsletter for schools, etc.

"
Texas report criticizes police response to Robb shooting
A review by Texas lawmakers of the Uvalde school shooting found that widespread failures by hundreds of heavily armed law-enforcement officers resulted in a delayed confrontation with the shooter that may have cost lives. Although 376 officers from local, state and federal agencies rushed to the May shooting at Uvalde’s Robb Elementary, none took command of the chaotic scene, effectively leaving the inexperienced local school district police department to lead the response, according to the preliminary findings by a committee of the Texas House of Representatives. The 77-page report concluded that officers “failed to prioritize saving the lives of innocent victims over their own safety.” “These local officials were not the only ones expected to supply the leadership needed during this tragedy. Hundreds of responders from numerous law enforcement agencies—many of whom were better trained and better equipped than the school district police—quickly arrived on the scene,” the report said. Uvalde police, responding to a car wreck by the shooter and shots fired, were the first to arrive, and that should have made one of them incident commander, the report said. Once school police chief Pete Arredondo arrived, he would have been a natural person to assume command, but he didn’t consider himself the commander, he told the committee. “You can always hope and pray that there’s an incident command post outside,” the report quotes Mr. Arredondo as testifying. “I just didn’t have access to that. I didn’t know anything about that.” Furthermore, the committee found that law enforcement “did not remain focused on the task of ‘stopping the killing’ as instructed by active shooter training.” Though Mr. Arredondo was consumed with finding a key to the door of the classroom the shooter entered, no one ever checked if it was locked. It likely wasn’t, the report found. No one called the school principal, who had a master key to all classrooms. The preliminary findings by Texas lawmakers are the first from multiple ongoing probes examining what went wrong in the response to the massacre. They offer the most comprehensive analysis to date of the police response, which has triggered broad criticism from victims’ families, the Uvalde community and lawmakers. Texas DPS is conducting the primary criminal investigation into the shooting and law enforcement’s response to it. Separately, the U.S. Department of Justice is reviewing the law enforcement response to identify lessons learned."



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"
Uvalde gunman identified as at-risk student
A year before the Uvalde school shooting, the gunman had already earned the nickname “school shooter” — a running joke among those he played online games with. He had also started wearing all black and making over-the-top threats, especially toward women. The interim report on the shooting from a Texas House committee presents the most complete picture to date of Salvador Ramos, the 18-year-old who killed 19 students and two teachers in his former fourth-grade classroom at Robb Elementary. The findings are based on law enforcement interviews with family members, data on the shooter’s phone and testimony presented to the committee. He also shot and wounded his grandmother, Celia Gonzales, before storming the school. He was born in Fargo, North Dakota, but moved to Uvalde as a child with his sister and mother, who struggled with a long history of drug use. A former girlfriend interviewed by the FBI said she believed the shooter had been sexually assaulted at an early age by one of the mother’s boyfriends but that the mother didn’t believe him, according to the report. He started falling behind in school but never received special education services, despite being identified as “at-risk” and having someone request speech therapy for him, according to the report, citing school records. Beginning in 2018, he was recording more than 100 absences a year, along with failing grades. But the report authors said it was unclear whether a school resource officer ever visited his home. By 2021, when he was 17 years old, he had only completed ninth grade, the report’s authors wrote."



Over 300 pigs! That's a fucking army.

Ok…

I get it we all pissed about the fact that it was two companies worth of boots on ground.


But did anyone else register that there were like four different programs that red-flagged this kid?

not “gun” red flag either…

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

Ok…

I get it we all pissed about the fact that it was two companies worth of boots on ground.


But did anyone else register that there were like four different programs that red-flagged this kid?

not “gun” red flag either…

Yeah, for a year at least.

And how many more time bombs are actively out there as we ruminate this incident?

Ominous.

 

[jamel]

Yeah, for a year at least.

And how many more time bombs are actively out there as we ruminate this incident?

Ominous.

From the top down Texas leadership has failed that community.

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

 

[SmilinDesperado]

I always like when they have the Punisher logo and shit, Punisher would be hunting down these cops one by one.

That sounds like a fun story line, has it been done yet?

To serve and protect.

 

[chardog]

Tragic. And protocol is they even if it’s you, alone you go in. If it’s it that, it’s a team of like 3 iirc. These guys are cowards and this is why people like Alex Jones gets views. None of this was necessary and it shows an entire system filled with bloat and rot

thought you were banned, good to see you back

 

[IdahoCBR]

Adding to that, I got this today from Education Slice, A newsletter for schools, etc.

"
Texas report criticizes police response to Robb shooting
A review by Texas lawmakers of the Uvalde school shooting found that widespread failures by hundreds of heavily armed law-enforcement officers resulted in a delayed confrontation with the shooter that may have cost lives. Although 376 officers from local, state and federal agencies rushed to the May shooting at Uvalde’s Robb Elementary, none took command of the chaotic scene, effectively leaving the inexperienced local school district police department to lead the response, according to the preliminary findings by a committee of the Texas House of Representatives. The 77-page report concluded that officers “failed to prioritize saving the lives of innocent victims over their own safety.” “These local officials were not the only ones expected to supply the leadership needed during this tragedy. Hundreds of responders from numerous law enforcement agencies—many of whom were better trained and better equipped than the school district police—quickly arrived on the scene,” the report said. Uvalde police, responding to a car wreck by the shooter and shots fired, were the first to arrive, and that should have made one of them incident commander, the report said. Once school police chief Pete Arredondo arrived, he would have been a natural person to assume command, but he didn’t consider himself the commander, he told the committee. “You can always hope and pray that there’s an incident command post outside,” the report quotes Mr. Arredondo as testifying. “I just didn’t have access to that. I didn’t know anything about that.” Furthermore, the committee found that law enforcement “did not remain focused on the task of ‘stopping the killing’ as instructed by active shooter training.” Though Mr. Arredondo was consumed with finding a key to the door of the classroom the shooter entered, no one ever checked if it was locked. It likely wasn’t, the report found. No one called the school principal, who had a master key to all classrooms. The preliminary findings by Texas lawmakers are the first from multiple ongoing probes examining what went wrong in the response to the massacre. They offer the most comprehensive analysis to date of the police response, which has triggered broad criticism from victims’ families, the Uvalde community and lawmakers. Texas DPS is conducting the primary criminal investigation into the shooting and law enforcement’s response to it. Separately, the U.S. Department of Justice is reviewing the law enforcement response to identify lessons learned."



&


"
Uvalde gunman identified as at-risk student
A year before the Uvalde school shooting, the gunman had already earned the nickname “school shooter” — a running joke among those he played online games with. He had also started wearing all black and making over-the-top threats, especially toward women. The interim report on the shooting from a Texas House committee presents the most complete picture to date of Salvador Ramos, the 18-year-old who killed 19 students and two teachers in his former fourth-grade classroom at Robb Elementary. The findings are based on law enforcement interviews with family members, data on the shooter’s phone and testimony presented to the committee. He also shot and wounded his grandmother, Celia Gonzales, before storming the school. He was born in Fargo, North Dakota, but moved to Uvalde as a child with his sister and mother, who struggled with a long history of drug use. A former girlfriend interviewed by the FBI said she believed the shooter had been sexually assaulted at an early age by one of the mother’s boyfriends but that the mother didn’t believe him, according to the report. He started falling behind in school but never received special education services, despite being identified as “at-risk” and having someone request speech therapy for him, according to the report, citing school records. Beginning in 2018, he was recording more than 100 absences a year, along with failing grades. But the report authors said it was unclear whether a school resource officer ever visited his home. By 2021, when he was 17 years old, he had only completed ninth grade, the report’s authors wrote."



Over 300 pigs! That's a fucking army.

They were obviously an under equipped army.

If law enforcement is going to be expected to engage a single, unarmored and untrained shooter with the mental capacity if a 13 year old, they should be equipped to do so. They should have access to armored Humvee's with M60 mounted turrets, M224 mortar systems and close air support provided by A-10 warthogs piloted by the top officer in the Academy's 2 week flight school.

 

[ElKarlo]

thought you were banned, good to see you back

Hoes were mad and thanks man, appreciate it.

 

[Scerpi]

Can't express my disappointment in how this whole situation was handled...

All the way from threats the kid made in the previous year.

If there was ever a situation that makes me lose faith in humanity.

The fact that police actually restrained a mother who tried to go in after her kids. FFS... Fire all of them.

 

[Osculater]

Adding to that, I got this today from Education Slice, A newsletter for schools, etc.

"
Texas report criticizes police response to Robb shooting
A review by Texas lawmakers of the Uvalde school shooting found that widespread failures by hundreds of heavily armed law-enforcement officers resulted in a delayed confrontation with the shooter that may have cost lives. Although 376 officers from local, state and federal agencies rushed to the May shooting at Uvalde’s Robb Elementary, none took command of the chaotic scene, effectively leaving the inexperienced local school district police department to lead the response, according to the preliminary findings by a committee of the Texas House of Representatives. The 77-page report concluded that officers “failed to prioritize saving the lives of innocent victims over their own safety.” “These local officials were not the only ones expected to supply the leadership needed during this tragedy. Hundreds of responders from numerous law enforcement agencies—many of whom were better trained and better equipped than the school district police—quickly arrived on the scene,” the report said. Uvalde police, responding to a car wreck by the shooter and shots fired, were the first to arrive, and that should have made one of them incident commander, the report said. Once school police chief Pete Arredondo arrived, he would have been a natural person to assume command, but he didn’t consider himself the commander, he told the committee. “You can always hope and pray that there’s an incident command post outside,” the report quotes Mr. Arredondo as testifying. “I just didn’t have access to that. I didn’t know anything about that.” Furthermore, the committee found that law enforcement “did not remain focused on the task of ‘stopping the killing’ as instructed by active shooter training.” Though Mr. Arredondo was consumed with finding a key to the door of the classroom the shooter entered, no one ever checked if it was locked. It likely wasn’t, the report found. No one called the school principal, who had a master key to all classrooms. The preliminary findings by Texas lawmakers are the first from multiple ongoing probes examining what went wrong in the response to the massacre. They offer the most comprehensive analysis to date of the police response, which has triggered broad criticism from victims’ families, the Uvalde community and lawmakers. Texas DPS is conducting the primary criminal investigation into the shooting and law enforcement’s response to it. Separately, the U.S. Department of Justice is reviewing the law enforcement response to identify lessons learned."



&


"
Uvalde gunman identified as at-risk student
A year before the Uvalde school shooting, the gunman had already earned the nickname “school shooter” — a running joke among those he played online games with. He had also started wearing all black and making over-the-top threats, especially toward women. The interim report on the shooting from a Texas House committee presents the most complete picture to date of Salvador Ramos, the 18-year-old who killed 19 students and two teachers in his former fourth-grade classroom at Robb Elementary. The findings are based on law enforcement interviews with family members, data on the shooter’s phone and testimony presented to the committee. He also shot and wounded his grandmother, Celia Gonzales, before storming the school. He was born in Fargo, North Dakota, but moved to Uvalde as a child with his sister and mother, who struggled with a long history of drug use. A former girlfriend interviewed by the FBI said she believed the shooter had been sexually assaulted at an early age by one of the mother’s boyfriends but that the mother didn’t believe him, according to the report. He started falling behind in school but never received special education services, despite being identified as “at-risk” and having someone request speech therapy for him, according to the report, citing school records. Beginning in 2018, he was recording more than 100 absences a year, along with failing grades. But the report authors said it was unclear whether a school resource officer ever visited his home. By 2021, when he was 17 years old, he had only completed ninth grade, the report’s authors wrote."



Over 300 pigs! That's a fucking army.

 

[650lb Sumo]

https://news.sky.com/story/uvaldes-...hesitant-response-to-school-massacre-12680868

Uvalde's district police chief Pete Arredondo sacked over hesitant response to school massacre

The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) sealed Pete Arredondo's fate on Wednesday - three months to the day after a gunman killed 19 children and two teachers in one of the deadliest classroom attacks in US history.

In a unanimous vote, the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District's (UCISD) board of trustees dismissed police chief Pete Arredondo, three months to the day after one of the deadliest classroom shootings in US history.

He had been on unpaid administrative leave since shortly after the 24 May shooting.

Parents yelled "coward" in the room where the meeting took place.

Mr Arredondo did not attend, however minutes before it got underway his lawyer released a scathing 4,500-word letter that amounted to the police chief's fullest defence so far of his actions.

Over 17 defiant pages, it insisted Mr Arredondo was not the fumbling school police chief who a damning state investigation blamed for not taking command and wasted time by looking for keys to a likely unlocked door, but a brave officer whose level-headed decisions saved the lives of other students.

The letter also accused Uvalde school officials of putting his life at risk by not letting him carry a weapon to the school board meeting.

"Chief Arredondo is a leader and a courageous officer who with all of the other law enforcement officers who responded to the scene, should be celebrated for the lives saved, instead of vilified for those they couldn't reach in time," the letter stated.

 

[terrapin]

Can't express my disappointment in how this whole situation was handled...

All the way from threats the kid made in the previous year.

If there was ever a situation that makes me lose faith in humanity.

The fact that police actually restrained a mother who tried to go in after her kids. FFS... Fire all of them.

i agree man. this was life and death and these cops did nothing but not only that while doing nothing they prevented people who wanted to act to save lives from doing so. there is simply no justification for this on any level.

 

[HockeyBjj]

I'm not saying I'm condoning this at all, but I am honestly surprised none of the family members of the 19 dead kids had a bad night, got too into drinking, and tried to do something about the chief themselves

People have done dumber and less logical things in their grief