12 Untrained Strongmen vs a Silverback Gorilla. Which side wins?

[RedFoxOne]

well there it is indeed. A random site on the interwebz made the arbitrary claim a gorilla is 20x stronger than a man, with zero evidence to support the claim. Clearly better source than the other random sites that claim 8-15x stronger, also with zero evidence.

 

[Metusalemi]

That gorilla would rip through them like a grown man would rip through 12 five-year olds.

This was exactly my 1st thought. XD

 

[TronSpecial]

For any non gorilla believers check this out.

http://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/200qjg/respect_adult_silverback_gorilla/

 

[Frittata]

uhmm they are joking but just in case anyone takes it seriously:
they dont make much sense,just because a human is ripped apart with horses and ropes doesnt mean a Gorilla by itself will do it,its just not the same thing,even if a gorila was stronger than a horse which I doubt it.....it aint ripping a human in half either......

Anyway a gorilla aint beating the entire human population,they are big but not that big to take on hundreds,there is a cutoff at some point,the only debate is at how many people?
They are getting hurt,they are not invulnerable..........

 

[Kahran]

Some people ITT thinking lifting a lot of weights makes you become some fearless beast. A grown silverback Gorilla has guaranteed been in several life or death situations and they would fight with no fear, otherwise they die, fortunately humans are not raised this way in this day and age. There aren't many men in the world who would go into a life or death fight against a Gorilla and not shit themselves.

OP said this is in a bigger Octagon. There is no running outside of a locked cage and it takes less effort for a Gorilla to take out one human than vice versa, even if there are 12 of them.

Scared, tired and large humans equals food for a silverback.

 

[gspieler]

uhmm they are joking but just in case anyone takes it seriously:
they dont make much sense,just because a human is ripped apart with horses and ropes doesnt mean a Gorilla by itself will do it,its just not the same thing,even if a gorila was stronger than a horse which I doubt it.....it aint ripping a human in half either......

Anyway a gorilla aint beating the entire human population,they are big but not that big to take on hundreds,there is a cutoff at some point,the only debate is at how many people?
They are getting hurt,they are not invulnerable..........

If you think a dozen 300lb strongmen, working in unison, and without regard for their own lives, bullrushed a gorilla, and there's no possibility they could overwhelm the beast, then no amount of unarmed average men would. That is, the only way you defeat it would through exhaustion, as it would slowly tire from ripping heads and limbs off.

 

[Kahran]

uhmm they are joking but just in case anyone takes it seriously:
they dont make much sense,just because a human is ripped apart with horses and ropes doesnt mean a Gorilla by itself will do it,its just not the same thing,even if a gorila was stronger than a horse which I doubt it.....it aint ripping a human in half either......

Anyway a gorilla aint beating the entire human population,they are big but not that big to take on hundreds,there is a cutoff at some point,the only debate is at how many people?
They are getting hurt,they are not invulnerable..........

You seem to be underrating a Silverback. Op also didn't mention anything about the human population. He said 12 untrained men, that's all.
Also, of course a Silverback Gorilla is stronger than a horse, where are you getting this shit from, lol.

 

[Brampton_Boy]

As others have pointed out:

If we had a coordinated attack from 12 humans that are willing to die for their cause, I would be inclined to pick the humans.

Given that in 99.9% of instances, people prefer self preservation over the greater good, the Gorilla is going to pulverize the strong men.

 

[Kahran]

If you think a dozen 300lb strongmen, without regard for their own lives, bullrushed a gorilla, and there's no possibility they could overwhelm the beast, then no amount of unarmed average men would. That is, the only way you defeat it would through exhaustion, as it would slowly tire from ripping heads and limbs off.

But that's the thing. Humans being humans, they would definitely have regard for their lives. Most humans avoid danger instinctively. We are not fearless, and lifting weights does not change that.

 

[gspieler]

You seem to be underrating a Silverback. Op also didn't mention anything about the human population. He said 12 untrained men, that's all.
Also, of course a Silverback Gorilla is stronger than a horse, where are you getting this shit from, lol.

You ever seen a grown Clydesdale? They're about 6', 2000lbs, and almost no fat on them. Of course, there's a big variation in the size and strength of different breeds of horse.

 

[gspieler]

But that's the thing. Humans being humans, they would definitely have regard for their lives. Most humans avoid danger instinctively. We are not fearless, and lifting weights does not change that.

You could make the same argument about gorillas, and most other animals, for that matter. Most of that posturing, pounding their chest, etc. are just ways to avoid a fight.

 

[Kahran]

You ever seen a grown Clydesdale? They're about 6', 2000lbs, and almost no fat on them. Of course, there's a big variation in the size and strength of different breeds of horse.

Yes, I see your point. Those are definitely significant beasts. But if you take the strongest horse around and the strongest silverback Gorilla around, i doubt that the gorilla does not have more raw power, the way they move and live also gives them much better control over their strength than a horse.

 

[Frittata]

You seem to be underrating a Silverback. Op also didn't mention anything about the human population. He said 12 untrained men, that's all.
Also, of course a Silverback Gorilla is stronger than a horse, where are you getting this shit from, lol.

just because you say it doenst make it so,biggest horse weighted 1,500 kilograms,no gorilla is touching that

 

[Kahran]

You could make the same argument about gorillas, and most other animals, for that matter. Most of that posturing, pounding their chest, etc. are just ways to avoid a fight.

There's no posturing here though, this is clearly stated as a fight to the death. And when that's the situation, I know which party is more likely to be afraid.

 

[gspieler]

Yes, I see your point. Those are definitely significant beasts. But if you take the strongest horse around and the strongest silverback Gorilla around, i doubt that the gorilla does not have more raw power, the way they move and live also gives them much better control over their strength than a horse.

Sure, a gorilla has better motor control, and thus will be able to apply his strength in more practical ways than a horse, but in terms of raw force output, I'd go with the horse.

 

[Kahran]

just because you say it doenst make it so,biggest horse weighted 1,500 kilograms,no gorilla is touching that

So you're saying anything that weighs more than something makes it much stronger and more likely to win in a fight? More weight doesn't always mean more strength but i'll take your example. 1,500 KG is quite insane.

 

[Frittata]

So you're saying anything that weighs more than something makes it much stronger and more likely to win in a fight? More weight doesn't always mean more strength but i'll take your example. 1,500 KG is quite insane.

no,I only said that because someone posted an article that horses could rip a tied human apart so a gorilla could do it too,a gorilla is diferent than horses and ropes,it wont rip you apart or rip you in half.

 

[Flemmy Stardust]

The twelve dudes would easily crush it if they actually attacked.

 

[Cid]

Gorilla mauls them.

He's a female orangutan vs a sumo twice her weight in tug of war. Gives you an idea how physically inferior we are.

 

[FyrFytr998]

In a legit fight or flight situation where flight is taken out of the equation. The Silverback will go HAM on the humans and prevail. Shit humans can't even take out chimps.