12 Untrained Strongmen vs a Silverback Gorilla. Which side wins?

Jesus Christ I laughed hard reading this thread.

Anyway, some of you are terribly misinformed. A gorilla would kill 12 strongmen easily. Very easily.

Zookeeper Gabe needs to weigh in on this thread.

He has aids.
 
I feel like once 3 or 4 of them are brutally torn apart the rest would just be like "fuck this" and run away.
 
Untrained as to what? Trained to fight a silverback gorilla!

Any 12 unarmed men against a prime silverback is suicide, especially if you gave that gorilla a reason to go apeshit and go for it (took his baby) they would get MAULED so bad, so so bad.
 
You need to give the humans a STRONG motivation to fight for it to even be imaginable. There is zero escape, this is a fight to the death, and if the humans lose, all their families die too.

Even in that situation, I honestly don't know how the humans could damage the gorilla without weapons. Choking it? No. Blows to the back of the head or spine? I doubt it but that may be their best shot.

Gorilla 10/10 times.

Give the humans access to improvised weapons and everything changes drastically.

Perhaps the 12 strongmen could form a circle around the gorilla, then 2 or more men storm from behind (as others distract from the front) to grab the gorilla by its lower legs and pull up + back so that the gorilla ends up belly down on the floor. The gorilla's first instinct would likely be to try shaking his legs loose and using his arms to push his upper body up off the floor. I think at this point the strongmen can withstand the gorilla's lower body strength from that prone position and keep control of the legs while staying out of arm's reach. So after pushing his upper body up the scene would look like a wheelbarrow race (except there'd be at least one person holding each leg)

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From this position the gorilla's head is exposed, and strongmen from each side and the front can then rush in and soccer kick and stomp the head from every available angle. When the gorilla inevitably uses his arms to defend his head, his body falls back to the floor making him very vulnerable to stomps to the back of his head and spine. If need be the strongmen controlling the legs could also start dragging the gorilla backwards to distract him from defending his head.

From the wheelbarrow position you could also try having additional strongmen take the gorilla's arms, although they might open themselves up to being bitten if they get overpowered. It would probably be better to have coordinated blitzes where two men rush in to grab and quickly release the arms while other men simultaneously storm in with head stomps. Get in range, stomp head, get out of range. Rinse, repeat.
 
11 could distract it while one jumps on its back and RNC it.

First thing I thought of but I have no idea.

Maybe the Gorilla would bite through the forearm of the guy trying to sink the RNC.
 
Theoretically the men could win but realistically it's unimaginable. Once the silverback pretty much crushes the first or second person, all the rest of the men would be demoralized and run for the hills.

First and foremost, the gorilla has fur and fat to protect it. Their skins are rather tough. With barefist there's just no chance. Meanwhile the gorilla's fangs and claws will cut through human skin like butter.

Gorilla's have fingers not claws and there bites aren't so deadly

"On May 18, 2007, Bokito jumped over the ditch that separated his Rotterdam enclosure from the public and violently attacked a woman, dragging her around for tens of metres and inflicting bone fractures as well as more than a hundred bite wounds."
 
Silverbacks are over effin rated.

if Sigourney weaver punked one of the males in "Gorillas in da mist" how in the hell is prime pudizan who can strict form curl 225lbs FFS. how the hell is a bitch made gorilla eating grass and sleeping all day going to beat him. and 11 more, guys like Ver magnusun, Savicas zydrunas?!?!? have you seen what feats of strength these mofo's are capable of mayne??.


and don't even dream about putting prime Bill Kazmier on that squad. That said one game bred Pitbull eviscerates them all including the Gorilla.
 
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If you mean pure strength (ie pulling power), the horse is a lot stronger than a gorilla. Its not even close - you know that video of a female orangutan out pulling a sumo wrestler? A female horse would casually walk away dragging that sumo wrestler as if he wasn't even there. Horse power measures sustained output (ie a twelve hour day); a horse can put out much more power than that for a few minutes.

Look at it this way - ever watch a horse jump on equestrian shows? That's 1000+ pounds jumping considerably higher and further than a 600 pound gorilla can jump. It takes huge strength to get something that heavy that high. And show horses are small and weak by horse standards - old plow horses were over 2000 pounds and could pull out tree stumps.

Gorillas are better fighters than horses though.

Humans are just weak. Gorillas are much stronger than us, but even silverbacks generally lose to male lions (which are as big, as strong, and have better claws, jaws and teeth). And they've fought lions and big bears (like grizzlies) and the bears typically win (probably because they're 1500+ pounds and can break a horses back with one paw swipe). And then you get into elephants and rhinos ... twelve humans unarmed against an angry elephant is not something to visualize.

And yet gorillas, bears, lions, elephants and tigers are on the verge of extinction, because humans haven't fought without weapons for probably 50,000 years. Putting a human unarmed against any animal is very artificial; our caveman ancestors would have thought that absolutely daft, reached for their stone axe or spear and then show you how we're supposed to do it.

Something like MMA is a cool sport, but its not real fighting for humans. We're about weapons, and have been for a very long time.

Great post. Although, I meant in fighting terms since that's what this thread was about. I must have misunderstood previous posters horse statement.
 
If you mean pure strength (ie pulling power), the horse is a lot stronger than a gorilla. Its not even close - you know that video of a female orangutan out pulling a sumo wrestler? A female horse would casually walk away dragging that sumo wrestler as if he wasn't even there. Horse power measures sustained output (ie a twelve hour day); a horse can put out much more power than that for a few minutes.

great post.

but im'a have to call bullsheet on the horse "out pulling" a strong man. I've personally seen Strongmen pulling 747's, freight trains, and big ass Fire Trucks. I even saw this arm wrestling champ on youtube holding two 1500cc Harley Davidson Motorcycles at full throttle from launching with out breaking his gable grip.

You think a Horse can do that mayne? and mind you two 1500cc Harley's put out the equivalent of 200 HP HORSE POWER each 2/3.14 x(H _1) / {2 H2.17} =500+ HORSE POWER!:eek:

Try finding me 500 horses that can keep two full throttle Harley's from launching?
 
If you mean pure strength (ie pulling power), the horse is a lot stronger than a gorilla. Its not even close - you know that video of a female orangutan out pulling a sumo wrestler? A female horse would casually walk away dragging that sumo wrestler as if he wasn't even there. Horse power measures sustained output (ie a twelve hour day); a horse can put out much more power than that for a few minutes.

great post.

but im'a have to call bullsheet on the horse "out pulling" a strong man. I've personally seen Strongmen pulling 747's, freight trains, and big ass Fire Trucks. I even saw this arm wrestling champ on youtube holding two 1500cc Harley Davidson Motorcycles at full throttle from launching with out breaking his gable grip.

You think a Horse can do that mayne? and mind you two 1500cc Harley's put out the equivalent of 200 HP HORSE POWER each 2/3.14 x(H _1) / {2 H2.17} =500+ HORSE POWER!:eek:

Try finding me 500 horses that can keep two full throttle Harley's from launching?

Ignoring for the moment that horse power is extended horse duration, not instanteous power (ie for a minute burst a horse can put out very many horse power - think of difference in speed between how fast a human can average running for 12 hours vs the speed of Usain Bolt over 100 meters), holding a bike means keeping the torque from the engine from being applied to the ground. The engine keeps turning, but there's slippage either at the clutch or, more commonly, at the wheels. Friction (or lack of it) is your friend. If you had that strongman grab the crankshaft and try to stop it you'd find he'd have very little success.

Here's an amusing clip I found on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-srzT2olJ2Q

People have no idea how strong horses are.
 
Anyway, some of you are terribly misinformed. A gorilla would kill 12 strongmen easily. Very easily.

"Misinformed"? As if there is a real answer out there. It is lame is when people answer 100% either direction, as if there is no variability or no chance of anything beyond what they imagine to be true in this ridiculous scenario. May as well try to use your imagination.
 
Horses are crazy strong when it come to pulling. My father in law had this massive bull that didn't want to leave its pen, so threw a rope around its neck, hitched it to a horse and that horse just drug the bull out like no big deal. That wasn't even a draft horse.
 
If you mean pure strength (ie pulling power), the horse is a lot stronger than a gorilla. Its not even close - you know that video of a female orangutan out pulling a sumo wrestler? A female horse would casually walk away dragging that sumo wrestler as if he wasn't even there. Horse power measures sustained output (ie a twelve hour day); a horse can put out much more power than that for a few minutes.

Look at it this way - ever watch a horse jump on equestrian shows? That's 1000+ pounds jumping considerably higher and further than a 600 pound gorilla can jump. It takes huge strength to get something that heavy that high. And show horses are small and weak by horse standards - old plow horses were over 2000 pounds and could pull out tree stumps.

Gorillas are better fighters than horses though.

Humans are just weak. Gorillas are much stronger than us, but even silverbacks generally lose to male lions (which are as big, as strong, and have better claws, jaws and teeth). And they've fought lions and big bears (like grizzlies) and the bears typically win (probably because they're 1500+ pounds and can break a horses back with one paw swipe). And then you get into elephants and rhinos ... twelve humans unarmed against an angry elephant is not something to visualize.

And yet gorillas, bears, lions, elephants and tigers are on the verge of extinction, because humans haven't fought without weapons for probably 50,000 years. Putting a human unarmed against any animal is very artificial; our caveman ancestors would have thought that absolutely daft, reached for their stone axe or spear and then show you how we're supposed to do it.

Something like MMA is a cool sport, but its not real fighting for humans. We're about weapons, and have been for a very long time.

So.

Cave man or astronaut?

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We should have a series of this threads. Like every Sunday, to fill a gap that Game of thrones left, some clever dude makes a new one.

"Dragon vs Tank"
"Robocop vs The Witcher"
"Hercules vs Oberyn Martell"
 
Some people ITT thinking lifting a lot of weights makes you become some fearless beast. A grown silverback Gorilla has guaranteed been in several life or death situations and they would fight with no fear, otherwise they die, fortunately humans are not raised this way in this day and age. There aren't many men in the world who would go into a life or death fight against a Gorilla and not shit themselves.

OP said this is in a bigger Octagon. There is no running outside of a locked cage and it takes less effort for a Gorilla to take out one human than vice versa, even if there are 12 of them.

Scared, tired and large humans equals food for a silverback.

I've just broken my thumb and typing is a nightmare but:

Do you even lift?

Gorillas are peaceful creatures who rely on bluffs/display.

Humans fight to the death in survival situations all the time. Is normal.

Gorilla is vegetarian, humans are obviously not food.
 
If you mean pure strength (ie pulling power), the horse is a lot stronger than a gorilla. Its not even close - you know that video of a female orangutan out pulling a sumo wrestler? A female horse would casually walk away dragging that sumo wrestler as if he wasn't even there. Horse power measures sustained output (ie a twelve hour day); a horse can put out much more power than that for a few minutes.

Look at it this way - ever watch a horse jump on equestrian shows? That's 1000+ pounds jumping considerably higher and further than a 600 pound gorilla can jump. It takes huge strength to get something that heavy that high. And show horses are small and weak by horse standards - old plow horses were over 2000 pounds and could pull out tree stumps.

Gorillas are better fighters than horses though.

Humans are just weak. Gorillas are much stronger than us, but even silverbacks generally lose to male lions (which are as big, as strong, and have better claws, jaws and teeth). And they've fought lions and big bears (like grizzlies) and the bears typically win (probably because they're 1500+ pounds and can break a horses back with one paw swipe). And then you get into elephants and rhinos ... twelve humans unarmed against an angry elephant is not something to visualize.

And yet gorillas, bears, lions, elephants and tigers are on the verge of extinction, because humans haven't fought without weapons for probably 50,000 years. Putting a human unarmed against any animal is very artificial; our caveman ancestors would have thought that absolutely daft, reached for their stone axe or spear and then show you how we're supposed to do it.

Something like MMA is a cool sport, but its not real fighting for humans. We're about weapons, and have been for a very long time.

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what now, playboy?
 
That gorilla would rip through them like a grown man would rip through 12 five-year olds.

This. I know strongmen. I've trained in gym where they trained, and although they are very strong and tough dudes, gorillas might as well be Saiyans compared to them.
 
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