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10 - 8's are a joke

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  1. markys00 Silver Belt

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    What would you suggest? I think the old scoring system was better and took a little bit more human error out of things.
     
  2. IngaVovchanchyn Plutonium Belt Platinum Member

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    Absolutely. Treating every round the same is one of the biggest problems in MMA judging.
     
  3. MarleyLynx Red Belt

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    I haven't really put enough thought into it tbh.
    The problem is so much is subjective.
    Say you judge the fight as a whole... how do you gauge gas tanks, concussive damage and filter that in with fight stats, rounds, impact and aggression?
    Right now you can have 2 rounds basically a draw and 1 round dominant and the guy w 2 drawed rounds can win cuz it might just be 2 10-9's and a 9-10.
     
  4. J Danger Armed with a Mind

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    I don’t think there’s enough 10-8s and 10-10s honestly
     
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  5. J Danger Armed with a Mind

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    If we scored fights the way I would like to then Usman/Colby 2 would be 49-48 Usman

    2 rounds for Kamaru
    1 for Colby
    2 draws

    but that’s not perfect either. I think rounds that are that close should be 10-10s and a lot of people don’t agree.
     
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  6. Rebelfett The Last Likebender Staff Member Senior Moderator

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    Agreed. Smart thinking like that is why you're a leader of men, sir
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  7. 2004 account For a fair sport/true mma fan, ain't no shill

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    It's that way by design, who's convenience is it and follow the paper.
     
  8. Bourbaki Blue Belt

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    It's pretty much already implemented in the rules. Judges don't follow the rules closely.
     
  9. TheAmericanGazelle Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    From a statistical point of view, the more scoring distinctions the better, assuming you can maintain quality control and consistent standards over time across different judges.

    That might be more easily accomplished with two more judges than trying to chop up more scoring distinctions (either officially or unofficially) within a single judge.
     
  10. BigDanStudd White Belt

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    The problem with trying to copy boxing with the knockdown rule is pretty obvious - there's no official ruling of knockdowns in MMA like there are in boxing. In boxing you have a referee determining if something was a knockdown and implementing a standing 8 count.

    MMA action can be fast and we see a lot of slips and trips that look like knockdowns. We have a close fight, one guy is winning a round but slips when blocking a punch and the judges think it's a knockdown, suddenly he unjustly goes from winning a 10-9 round to losing a 10-8 round.
     
  11. TheHabitualLineStepper White Belt

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    And I'm trying to explain to you why it was a retarded comparison you clown.
     
  12. SherdogFan23 Brown Belt

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    Two knock-downs should never automatically give a 10-8. Some fighters get knocked down (or taken down) but are immediately back on their feet with no diminished result.

    Nonetheless, the current ten point scoring system is terrible for a complex sport like MMA. There should be a higher point range for each round. And certain events should be scored as minimum set amounts or higher

    KD - fighter in trouble
    KD - fighter not hurt
    TD - no control occurred
    TD - control occurred for minimum time period
    submission attempt - failed
    submission attempt - fighter in trouble for a time period
    Significant Strike count
    Control in cage
    violations - deductions (fence grab, groin strike, eye poke)
    etc etc etc.
     
  13. kingofthecans Orange Belt

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    Not a Khabib fan, but he should have more 10-8 rounds for himself then.
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