Woman calls police to report disturbance, ends up killed by police

why is the option to turn the body cameras on/off even an option? make them be on at all times they are on the job.
 
Lord of Lies said:
This is part of the problem. I have several friends and family that are cops (all for 15+ years), they said the hiring standards have been lowered in order to attract people to the job (and for diversity). The result is people who should not be cops becoming cops.
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that's scary. Let us face it, it's not like the right side of the bell curve were becoming cops in the first place.
 
JSN said:
that's scary. Let us face it, it's not like the right side of the bell curve were becoming cops in the first place.
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Not entirely true in most cases in the present day. A lot of your big city departments are more relaxed on qualifications because let's face it, they have thousands of spots to fill. Most of your medium sized departments (50-150 sworn) that make up the majority of America require at the very least an Associate's Degree if not a BS.

The wages are decent, good benefits and the best draw is the pension. A lot of states are looking to get rid of pensions though and if that happens look out. The 22 year old mall cop will be a real cop because no one else will want to do it.
 
rocketskates said:
Not entirely true in most cases in the present day. A lot of your big city departments are more relaxed on qualifications because let's face it, they have thousands of spots to fill. Most of your medium sized departments (50-150 sworn) that make up the majority of America require at the very least an Associate's Degree if not a BS.
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I almost feel like an associate's degree makes you more stupider than a high school grad.
 
JSN said:
I almost feel like an associate's degree makes you more stupider than a high school grad.
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Well, quite honestly it's just a show for the public of "look how educated" our cops are. Education doesn't make you a good cop. Some people are cut out for and some aren't.
 
rocketskates said:
Well, quite honestly it's just a show for the public of "look how educated" our cops are. Education doesn't make you a good cop. Some people are cut out for and some aren't.
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shitty thing is everyone should be learning scientific method and logic. Our criminal justice system is based on slightly more modern paradigms than "if she floats, she's a witch."

I was greatly disturbed by the Frontline piece on what passes for forensic science.

I'm kin of digressing, but agreed on dog and pony show for the public. You could literally be retarded and get an undergrad degree in a lot of subjects.
 
Cop got startled and thought she was going to pull a weapon out her jammies and shot her is whatim betting on

Not bashing cops or guns but we seem to have a real issue of cowards with guns being a major danger to the rest of is.

This bitch called a cop for help and ended up dead is a story we keep on hearing

We really need to invest into some serious training

Also those cams need to be on the whole time they are on the clock
 
spin_ said:
'body cams not turned on' should be an automatic something.


not wrongful death conviction, but something.
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Funny how the body cams always happen to be off when this stuff happens...
 
tdluxon said:
Funny how the body cams always happen to be off when this stuff happens...
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they're always off the same way your wife perceives that you always leave the toilet seat up. In reality the culture is there's poor compliance using them and there definitely should be penalties for that.
 
white lives matter, time to riot and loot the streets boys!
 
JSN said:
they're always off the same way your wife perceives that you always leave the toilet seat up. In reality the culture is there's poor compliance using them and there definitely should be penalties for that.
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No doubt but it seems to be a common pattern. This one there was multiple cameras and none were on? Regardless of what happened, that's not acceptable, they should be fired regardless of the outcome of the investigation for violating policy
 
freakyfarley said:
They should be fired/sued for turning off their mandatory body cams.

edit: Bodycams need to be turned on, default is off but still.
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That's so idiotic, what a ridiculous design and excuse. A camera battery lasts a couple hours and costs like 10 bucks. There's no reason it can't run full time
 
Those cameras can hold SD cards with enough memory to record their entire shift. No excuses to not always have them on.
 
emefer said:
Wow indeed. Just part of how we got to where we are now. Check this on the officer who show Tamir Rice. http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2014/12/cleveland_police_officer_who_s.html#incart_m-rpt-1
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Ugh. Cop pay should be higher and entrance requirements tougher, make it a desirable job that people aspire to and you'll attract better candidates.

But the fact that the best candidates are explicitly not wanted kinda makes you give up hope...which you probably should anyway, I'm pretty sure humanity is eventually doomed with all the stupid shit in world. We have the power to destroy the planet in seconds, and eventually some dumbass is gonna do that.
 
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