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. But it's still a fact he hasn't beaten many top fighters.
I think DC has a much better case than No Rush or JBJ...
But what about your criterias?
. But it's still a fact he hasn't beaten many top fighters.
Would you really consider Stipe a top 20 HW goat after beating four fighters with an average age of 40 years old? Hunt is a shit win, he doesn't even have a winning record. JDS was a shell of his former self and he actually got beat by a past his prime JDS already. I can't believe all the recency bias. Obviously Stipe is a solid win but winning vs. Stipe, Rumble and Gus doesn't make you a GOAT candidate.
By cutting 40 pounds to fight at LHW for a good part of his career?
1st JDS vs Miocic doesnt desserve any debate, imo... At best, Miocic could pretend he earned a Draw, and that´s a reach...Stipe Miocic, Gustafsson, Anthony Johnson, Dan Henderson, Josh Barnett, Anderson Silva, Frank Mir, Roy Nelson, and etc... He has beaten soo many top fighters its ridiculous.
I agree with you on ppl overhyping Stipes wins especially with JDS. However, there is a debate of Stipe winning that first fight. Mark Hunt is a solid win bc he is so tough and has beaten some of the best. Alistair Overeem is a solid win especially since overeem had an opportunity to win, so you can't say he was past his prime. Fabricio Werdum, Roy Nelson, Arlovski, Roy Nelson, and etc.. are all still quality wins. And Stipe was the most dominant HW champion in the UFC, so yes he is a top 20 HW. If you consider Werdum, Overeem, and Arlovski top 10 HW's (as I do) then you need to have Stipe among those greatest HW's.
He was still undersized and didn't have the power advantage against most of his opponents.
1st JDS vs Miocic doesnt desserve any debate, imo... At best, Miocic could pretend he earned a Draw, and that´s a reach...
I agree but it was still a very competitive fight against a monster in JDS (without Cain JDS wouldve dominated for a while) and I mention it because many ppl believe that Stipe won. Not me necessarily.
Do you really think Stipe's accomplishments are better than ANY of the following HWs?
Fedor
Cain
JDS
Coleman
Vovchanchyn
Werdum
Overeem
Big Nog
Rutten
You must be quite new to MMA to make a claim like that.
Better than Coleman, Vovchanchyn, Overeem, and Rutten. Overeem I can see an argument that Stipe has dominated in a very shallow HW era, but Stipe still has quality wins against some of the best HW's. He KO'd Werdum and Overeem for fuck sake
DontBelieve1
DC is 5'10 prob 5'9
Alexander Gustaffson 6'5-6
Anthony Johnson 6'2 (power advantage)
Volkan 6'2 (power advantage)
Anderson Silva 6'2
Patrick Cummins 6'2
The only person that was similar height to DC was Hendo, and Hendo has the punching power advantage.
Whats not to believe?
He beat a 39 years old Werdum who came rushing in and didn't even take him serious.
Then he struggled against Undereem/Econoreem after almost getting finished.
Undersized
GSP imho, it's tricky because Cormier is a HW that was killing himself to make LHW because of Cain.