- Joined
- Jan 8, 2007
- Messages
- 50,523
- Reaction score
- 840
what about not prosecuting drugs?
I'll pay it for you if you agree to post the results. For 15 bucks, this is good entertainment either way lol
Make no mistake...this is what the argument is all about and what the Trump maga crowd is all about...ethno nationalism. The false assertion that America is a white country or for "white " looking people. The assertions that America is a post racial society is false and has been proven false these past few years.
Native Americans (Hispanics) need to take notice.
I think logic and reason is hard to come by today. Many issues are not driven by evidence and truth, they are driven by emotion. That is our society today. With calling names like "bigot, intolerant, racist etc."I would be especially interested in how to answer the 2nd question - how might we establish, or reestablish differences of opinion and reason in the fractured state of internal "tribal" discussions and divisions.
Real critical thinking and theory to those who do not want to listen, without reflexively thinking pro-Trump, anti-Trump, or anything about Trump, -- no Trump involved - but rather, "I want to convince the intellectuals, leaders, silent majorities of voters, and the open minded to influence, or push the partisans, and activists." How would you build that backbone? How would you instill that maturity? How would you have the order of political reason be restored over the wishes of the political ego? Please give any thoughts you have.
And you think that will be cheaper than 5 billion on "border security"? To charge/fine citizens who are looking for a cheap part-time and in my case once a year labor project? Sounds almost as promising as the war on drugs. Why stop or legalize drugs coming in, when you can scare the population with stiff fines and jail time. It's working out like you wouldn't believe.
I hope you see where the problem with that would be.
Nothing about ethno-nationalism requires isolation. Do you consider Japan to be isolationist? South Korea?
I don't think you're qualified to determine the cause of homosexuality and what type of treatment people should recieve. Your views are based on your own religious beliefs, which you're free to practice, but not compel others to follow.I think logic and reason is hard to come by today. Many issues are not driven by evidence and truth, they are driven by emotion. That is our society today. With calling names like "bigot, intolerant, racist etc."
Take the issue of promoting transgender behavior by Obama and the dems. We had Obama telling us how good, brave an courageous being a transgender was. You've now got states like California where it's illegal to counsel kids away from transgenderism. California now states that they will take your kid away from you and give them hormones for a sex change out there. Not due to biological facts, but due to "tolerance and social justice". The reasonable thin would be to counsel the kid on his mental, emotional and spiritual problems for why he is trying to dress and act like a girl.
There are many issues where the left will not discuss the evidence. They ride on emotion for social justice instead of looking at what is truth and what is right.
I can't align myself with a democrat party that promotes abortions and even brags and cheers people for killing unborn babies.
I can't align myself with the promotion of LGBTQ and the sexual deviancy that democrats have been promoting heavily since Obama. Because of the Obama and democrat worldview, we have trannies being promoted to little kids by trannies reading books and having story time in the libraries across the country.
And if I were to argue these issues today, I will instantly be accused of being a bigot. It's all driven by emotion.
My worldview is in direct opposition to the Leftist Democrat worldview.
Another ahutdown would just be more proof that Trump isn't a great dealmaker.I welcome a shutdown.
Force the political left to choose illegals over citizens.
And right before they need to garner support for a presidential nominee...
People can decide what treatement they want or if they want no treatment at all. But it should not be made illegal by democrats and leftists to counsel a kid out of his trans issues. Nor his gay issues if the parents and the kid want true mental health and true help.I don't think you're qualified to determine the cause of homosexuality and what type of treatment people should recieve. Your views are based on your own religious beliefs, which you're free to practice, but not compel others to follow.
You believe it's a mental health disorder but can't discount physiological causes like hormones or brain morphology. If someone is born as a hermaphrodite who gets to decide what gender they should be? Should physical characteristics take precedence over the feeling of the actual human being? I'm not familiar with the law you're referring to but why should school counselors be allowed to subject students to their own religious beliefs?People can decide what treatement they want or if they want no treatment at all. But it should not be made illegal by democrats and leftists to counsel a kid out of his trans issues. Nor his gay issues if the parents and the kid want true mental health and true help.
So you say. I disagree with your self-assessment.
At this stage of the game, when you're clearly laying a trap (Pelosi within seconds of speaking about the wall, "the Trump Shut-down" almost under her breath) and up until now not showing any inkling of conversing "in good faith," then you'll see how this was a sham political stunt by Nancy and Chuck. Again, I went over this already. I'll link you back to the post I know you already read,
, but a direct quote from my third paragraph: "Finally, Pelosi, like any Democrat establishment member, demonstrates her bigotry of low expectations for the common person when she wishes to hide their discussion behind closed doors. Yup, the "everyone is a snowflake" movement, the "common person needs safe-spaces" came from Democrats make no mistake."
That wouldn't be good, hence the effort he is making to fulfill his promise. And, unlike his political opponents who wish he and his family harm for leaving a business career to enter into their sacred cash cow of politics that they run, he is actually doing what he is doing for the good of the people.
And further to this, open-minded people aren't blind to him putting himself out there on this issue, so come on now - let's truly be nonpartisan here. He can rightly say he was opposed tooth-and-nail just like everything else he does and that will only get worse come January. And most everyone knows this.
Your pushing your own (or CNN's) interpretation of what political damage looks like.
What the left doesn't seem to understand, is that yes, you've all finally wakened the right! This is why someone like Trump got voted in! Good job! And yet you are clueless, it seems, when it comes to your involvement lol. But I digress.
Shutting down government shows courage and strength - if indeed it comes to that.
And again, as per my previous post somewhere in this thread, it was the transparent political aim to portray Trump as the unhinged tyrant - a CNN trope millions see through now with ease.
It sounds like what I already posted, that it's hard for Dems to back down on the fascist Nazi they created for political purposes without care for the country, the POTUS' family and the POTUS himself.
The war wasn't created by Republicans, it was created by a corrupt Democrat establishment funded and driven by deep state. That's the reality of the situation we're in.
Another ahutdown would just be more proof that Trump isn't a great dealmaker.
I have no idea who he voted for but was going by his comments about Trump. I guess if he voted for Trump he's not a NeverTrumper.Interesting way to be a neverTrumper by voting for Trump.
The fact that he doesn't have the votes.
You guys throw the word obstructionist around too freely.Oh I see.
You're referring to the Obstructionist Democrats.
Not the American People who actually WANT the Wall.
Got it.
Japan and South Korea are hardly what i would call libertarian societies.
I have no idea who he voted for but was going by his comments about Trump. I guess if he voted for Trump he's not a NeverTrumper.
@panamaican did you vote for Trump? Did your views change after the election?