You would think something that is on youtube Kids app would have to be screened first? These videos are really weird.
We know that human/child trafficking exists. It breaks my heart that there is probablly some kid in a cage, in some shit hole, with only a computer playing these videos 24/7, except when they are being pedo'd.
People are too busy worrying about Trumps next tweet, or which athlete will kneel, to pay attention to real problems going on.
When i was in college, I took an elective sociology class called "Social Probles". For our final projects, one student did the problem of Human Trafficking. It is insane the stats/numbers involved with it.... shocking and depressing.
watched about 7 minutes of it and i just got this shitty creepy feeling from it and i closed it.
i don't know who would let their kids watch horrid shit like that.
I don't think anyone would. I think kids are seeing this because tablets play the new baby sitter role. Most of the time parents aren't even monitoring what their kids are actually watching on these things when they should be.
Okay, let's do this. I'm going to explain what #ElsaGate is, what theories are floating around, and the disturbing shit you find when you dig deeper:
#ELSAGATE: #ElsaGate began when someone found out what kids are potentially watching when their parents hand them an iPad to watch Youtube videos. As most of you know, there is a suggested video autoplay feature both in the Youtube app, the Youtube Kids App, and on the website itself. While you can hand your kids an episode of a kid friendly Disney-themed video, it can quickly devolve into the type of disgusting videos a lot of people have discovered browsing this thread as a starting point.
So what are the videos? Youtube seems to have AI content creators. The videos are often low-budget productions that are likely made in an automation program. They tend to feature Disney and Marvel/DC characters. Most of these videos are head-scratchingly dumb with no substance, but also something you can see your toddler watching for an hour without complaint while you wash dishes or some shit. The videos that has the internet raging are often in the same format: Low-budget, automated productions, with a twist: These videos tend to have adult themes; Drug and alcohol use, sexual content, scat, needles, spiders, etc. A running theme seems to be female characters tied up while male characters poop on them, or "dryhump" them.
This will have more detail a bit further down, but some of the videos are live action, featuring children.
THE THEORIES: A common theory floating around is that these videos, down the rabbit-hole of suggested-video auto-play, aim to condition children to internalize negative behaviors. We all know if you throw it at the wall (metaphorically representing the psyche), it sticks with children. The theory being that it's a type of subconscious grooming for children. The theory kind of loses any hold because, presumably, the children who see this content are completely random. They're not individually targeted, and there isn't really a way to track who is watching the videos.
Another theory [or anti-theory] is that the content is just automated for ad revenue. While it's true that there are some notable channels with this very same content hosting multiple ads-per-video while getting millions of [likely botted] views, most of these videos have very few views and no ads. Often, channels will have only a single video uploaded.
Another anti-theory is that the videos are being provided for weird fetishists and aren't meant to be seen by kids at all; However, none of the videos are marked as "age-restricted", and are in fact available for viewing on the Youtube Kids app.
Then we have the pedophile ring theory: Some people theorize that a pedophile ring uses these videos to communicate in the comment sections. Most of these videos have gibberish comments. Usually strings of numbers and letters. Some suggest that it's just toddlers smashing away at the keyboard, but most people think the likelihood of that happening consistently on every video is pretty low. So, some think that it's some sort of code. People on Reddit are working at figuring out whether or not it means anything. Perhaps the comments are a way with screwing with Google's algorithms to make kids more likely to find the videos. Some users have pointed out that just searching gibberish letter combinations will often bring up these types of videos; So perhaps the comments are just bots randomly generating these combinations.
DEEPER IN THE RABBIT HOLE: I noted that some people think the gibberish in the comments may be code. As it turns out, some of them are Youtube video URLs. These videos seem to be almost exclusively young girls dancing in small outfits. Other users have found that some comments are simply dates and times, but when input into the Youtube search, more videos of young girls dancing or playing with toys pop up. They seem to be stock Webcam recordings; On a lot of webcams, if you upload a video without titling it, it will simply be titled "Webcam [Date/Time]". For instance: "Webcam 5/28/15 07:43", and other variations. Due to these types of videos, Redditers found that you can input dates and times in the Youtube search bar, and pretty much any modern date and time will just have hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of young children. Now, plenty of people are technologically illiterate, and a lot of webcam software comes with direct uploading capabilities. That would explain it.
Except for the views. These often candid (though plenty of videos are kids who are aware that the camera is on) videos can have tens of thousands of views. Once you get into this territory, the suggested videos seem to become more and more pedophile-based in nature. A lot of Russian language videos of young girls suggestively posing for the camera or bathing. A lot of it is under the tag "morning routine".
Circling back to #ElsaGate itself, eventually the two types of videos converge. Little girls in surreal "home movies" involving the same sort of themes as the AI-generated videos described above. One channel in particular focuses on a young Russian girl and a "Crazy Doctor". The videos feature simulated shots to the little girl's bottom, legs, and even tongue.
There are other videos, stop motion claymation style stuff that people have found to have messages hidden in the audio. These videos feature clay characters speaking gibberish, but when slowed down, they seem to advertising child pornography. Other people have found short videos that are uploaded but almost immediately deleted that show children, and are speculating that the videos are showing children that are for sale.
#ElsaGate is something more than just ad-farming. There's more than the surrealist cartoons. Youtube seems to be utilized by pedophiles buying, selling, and even producing child pornography. Perhaps even human trafficking operations. This rabbit hole goes deep.
Everything in this post is mined from time spent reading about ElsaGate on Reddit. I don't have the stomach to go clicking down that particular dark corner of Youtube. Some people have that mental fortitude and are doing good work in uncovering what's really going on with this whole thing. I don't recommend to anyone to go to Youtube looking for this shit.
Okay, let's do this. I'm going to explain what #ElsaGate is, what theories are floating around, and the disturbing shit you find when you dig deeper:
#ELSAGATE: #ElsaGate began when someone found out what kids are potentially watching when their parents hand them an iPad to watch Youtube videos. As most of you know, there is a suggested video autoplay feature both in the Youtube app, the Youtube Kids App, and on the website itself. While you can hand your kids an episode of a kid friendly Disney-themed video, it can quickly devolve into the type of disgusting videos a lot of people have discovered browsing this thread as a starting point.
So what are the videos? Youtube seems to have AI content creators. The videos are often low-budget productions that are likely made in an automation program. They tend to feature Disney and Marvel/DC characters. Most of these videos are head-scratchingly dumb with no substance, but also something you can see your toddler watching for an hour without complaint while you wash dishes or some shit. The videos that has the internet raging are often in the same format: Low-budget, automated productions, with a twist: These videos tend to have adult themes; Drug and alcohol use, sexual content, scat, needles, spiders, etc. A running theme seems to be female characters tied up while male characters poop on them, or "dryhump" them.
This will have more detail a bit further down, but some of the videos are live action, featuring children.
THE THEORIES: A common theory floating around is that these videos, down the rabbit-hole of suggested-video auto-play, aim to condition children to internalize negative behaviors. We all know if you throw it at the wall (metaphorically representing the psyche), it sticks with children. The theory being that it's a type of subconscious grooming for children. The theory kind of loses any hold because, presumably, the children who see this content are completely random. They're not individually targeted, and there isn't really a way to track who is watching the videos.
Another theory [or anti-theory] is that the content is just automated for ad revenue. While it's true that there are some notable channels with this very same content hosting multiple ads-per-video while getting millions of [likely botted] views, most of these videos have very few views and no ads. Often, channels will have only a single video uploaded.
Another anti-theory is that the videos are being provided for weird fetishists and aren't meant to be seen by kids at all; However, none of the videos are marked as "age-restricted", and are in fact available for viewing on the Youtube Kids app.
Then we have the pedophile ring theory: Some people theorize that a pedophile ring uses these videos to communicate in the comment sections. Most of these videos have gibberish comments. Usually strings of numbers and letters. Some suggest that it's just toddlers smashing away at the keyboard, but most people think the likelihood of that happening consistently on every video is pretty low. So, some think that it's some sort of code. People on Reddit are working at figuring out whether or not it means anything. Perhaps the comments are a way with screwing with Google's algorithms to make kids more likely to find the videos. Some users have pointed out that just searching gibberish letter combinations will often bring up these types of videos; So perhaps the comments are just bots randomly generating these combinations.
DEEPER IN THE RABBIT HOLE: I noted that some people think the gibberish in the comments may be code. As it turns out, some of them are Youtube video URLs. These videos seem to be almost exclusively young girls dancing in small outfits. Other users have found that some comments are simply dates and times, but when input into the Youtube search, more videos of young girls dancing or playing with toys pop up. They seem to be stock Webcam recordings; On a lot of webcams, if you upload a video without titling it, it will simply be titled "Webcam [Date/Time]". For instance: "Webcam 5/28/15 07:43", and other variations. Due to these types of videos, Redditers found that you can input dates and times in the Youtube search bar, and pretty much any modern date and time will just have hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of young children. Now, plenty of people are technologically illiterate, and a lot of webcam software comes with direct uploading capabilities. That would explain it.
Except for the views. These often candid (though plenty of videos are kids who are aware that the camera is on) videos can have tens of thousands of views. Once you get into this territory, the suggested videos seem to become more and more pedophile-based in nature. A lot of Russian language videos of young girls suggestively posing for the camera or bathing. A lot of it is under the tag "morning routine".
Circling back to #ElsaGate itself, eventually the two types of videos converge. Little girls in surreal "home movies" involving the same sort of themes as the AI-generated videos described above. One channel in particular focuses on a young Russian girl and a "Crazy Doctor". The videos feature simulated shots to the little girl's bottom, legs, and even tongue.
There are other videos, stop motion claymation style stuff that people have found to have messages hidden in the audio. These videos feature clay characters speaking gibberish, but when slowed down, they seem to advertising child pornography. Other people have found short videos that are uploaded but almost immediately deleted that show children, and are speculating that the videos are showing children that are for sale.
#ElsaGate is something more than just ad-farming. There's more than the surrealist cartoons. Youtube seems to be utilized by pedophiles buying, selling, and even producing child pornography. Perhaps even human trafficking operations. This rabbit hole goes deep.
Everything in this post is mined from time spent reading about ElsaGate on Reddit. I don't have the stomach to go clicking down that particular dark corner of Youtube. Some people have that mental fortitude and are doing good work in uncovering what's really going on with this whole thing. I don't recommend to anyone to go to Youtube looking for this shit.
I spent the time, I clicked around on Youtube, and like I said earlier in the thread, it is very unlikely that this is not the worst case scenario. It is not random. It is not AI generated. It is not for ad revenue.
Okay, let's do this. I'm going to explain what #ElsaGate is, what theories are floating around, and the disturbing shit you find when you dig deeper:
#ELSAGATE: #ElsaGate began when someone found out what kids are potentially watching when their parents hand them an iPad to watch Youtube videos. As most of you know, there is a suggested video autoplay feature both in the Youtube app, the Youtube Kids App, and on the website itself. While you can hand your kids an episode of a kid friendly Disney-themed video, it can quickly devolve into the type of disgusting videos a lot of people have discovered browsing this thread as a starting point.
So what are the videos? Youtube seems to have AI content creators. The videos are often low-budget productions that are likely made in an automation program. They tend to feature Disney and Marvel/DC characters. Most of these videos are head-scratchingly dumb with no substance, but also something you can see your toddler watching for an hour without complaint while you wash dishes or some shit. The videos that has the internet raging are often in the same format: Low-budget, automated productions, with a twist: These videos tend to have adult themes; Drug and alcohol use, sexual content, scat, needles, spiders, etc. A running theme seems to be female characters tied up while male characters poop on them, or "dryhump" them.
This will have more detail a bit further down, but some of the videos are live action, featuring children.
THE THEORIES: A common theory floating around is that these videos, down the rabbit-hole of suggested-video auto-play, aim to condition children to internalize negative behaviors. We all know if you throw it at the wall (metaphorically representing the psyche), it sticks with children. The theory being that it's a type of subconscious grooming for children. The theory kind of loses any hold because, presumably, the children who see this content are completely random. They're not individually targeted, and there isn't really a way to track who is watching the videos.
Another theory [or anti-theory] is that the content is just automated for ad revenue. While it's true that there are some notable channels with this very same content hosting multiple ads-per-video while getting millions of [likely botted] views, most of these videos have very few views and no ads. Often, channels will have only a single video uploaded.
Another anti-theory is that the videos are being provided for weird fetishists and aren't meant to be seen by kids at all; However, none of the videos are marked as "age-restricted", and are in fact available for viewing on the Youtube Kids app.
Then we have the pedophile ring theory: Some people theorize that a pedophile ring uses these videos to communicate in the comment sections. Most of these videos have gibberish comments. Usually strings of numbers and letters. Some suggest that it's just toddlers smashing away at the keyboard, but most people think the likelihood of that happening consistently on every video is pretty low. So, some think that it's some sort of code. People on Reddit are working at figuring out whether or not it means anything. Perhaps the comments are a way with screwing with Google's algorithms to make kids more likely to find the videos. Some users have pointed out that just searching gibberish letter combinations will often bring up these types of videos; So perhaps the comments are just bots randomly generating these combinations.
DEEPER IN THE RABBIT HOLE: I noted that some people think the gibberish in the comments may be code. As it turns out, some of them are Youtube video URLs. These videos seem to be almost exclusively young girls dancing in small outfits. Other users have found that some comments are simply dates and times, but when input into the Youtube search, more videos of young girls dancing or playing with toys pop up. They seem to be stock Webcam recordings; On a lot of webcams, if you upload a video without titling it, it will simply be titled "Webcam [Date/Time]". For instance: "Webcam 5/28/15 07:43", and other variations. Due to these types of videos, Redditers found that you can input dates and times in the Youtube search bar, and pretty much any modern date and time will just have hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of young children. Now, plenty of people are technologically illiterate, and a lot of webcam software comes with direct uploading capabilities. That would explain it.
Except for the views. These often candid (though plenty of videos are kids who are aware that the camera is on) videos can have tens of thousands of views. Once you get into this territory, the suggested videos seem to become more and more pedophile-based in nature. A lot of Russian language videos of young girls suggestively posing for the camera or bathing. A lot of it is under the tag "morning routine".
Circling back to #ElsaGate itself, eventually the two types of videos converge. Little girls in surreal "home movies" involving the same sort of themes as the AI-generated videos described above. One channel in particular focuses on a young Russian girl and a "Crazy Doctor". The videos feature simulated shots to the little girl's bottom, legs, and even tongue.
There are other videos, stop motion claymation style stuff that people have found to have messages hidden in the audio. These videos feature clay characters speaking gibberish, but when slowed down, they seem to advertising child pornography. Other people have found short videos that are uploaded but almost immediately deleted that show children, and are speculating that the videos are showing children that are for sale.
#ElsaGate is something more than just ad-farming. There's more than the surrealist cartoons. Youtube seems to be utilized by pedophiles buying, selling, and even producing child pornography. Perhaps even human trafficking operations. This rabbit hole goes deep.
Everything in this post is mined from time spent reading about ElsaGate on Reddit. I don't have the stomach to go clicking down that particular dark corner of Youtube. Some people have that mental fortitude and are doing good work in uncovering what's really going on with this whole thing. I don't recommend to anyone to go to Youtube looking for this shit.
I spent the time, I clicked around on Youtube, and like I said earlier in the thread, it is very unlikely that this is not the worst case scenario. It is not random. It is not AI generated. It is not for ad revenue.
Yep. And looking on Reddit, a lot of people suspect that the captors are also showing these videos to Kids to "condition" them into believing what's being done to them is normal.
Okay, let's do this. I'm going to explain what #ElsaGate is, what theories are floating around, and the disturbing shit you find when you dig deeper:
#ELSAGATE: #ElsaGate began when someone found out what kids are potentially watching when their parents hand them an iPad to watch Youtube videos. As most of you know, there is a suggested video autoplay feature both in the Youtube app, the Youtube Kids App, and on the website itself. While you can hand your kids an episode of a kid friendly Disney-themed video, it can quickly devolve into the type of disgusting videos a lot of people have discovered browsing this thread as a starting point.
So what are the videos? Youtube seems to have AI content creators. The videos are often low-budget productions that are likely made in an automation program. They tend to feature Disney and Marvel/DC characters. Most of these videos are head-scratchingly dumb with no substance, but also something you can see your toddler watching for an hour without complaint while you wash dishes or some shit. The videos that has the internet raging are often in the same format: Low-budget, automated productions, with a twist: These videos tend to have adult themes; Drug and alcohol use, sexual content, scat, needles, spiders, etc. A running theme seems to be female characters tied up while male characters poop on them, or "dryhump" them.
This will have more detail a bit further down, but some of the videos are live action, featuring children.
THE THEORIES: A common theory floating around is that these videos, down the rabbit-hole of suggested-video auto-play, aim to condition children to internalize negative behaviors. We all know if you throw it at the wall (metaphorically representing the psyche), it sticks with children. The theory being that it's a type of subconscious grooming for children. The theory kind of loses any hold because, presumably, the children who see this content are completely random. They're not individually targeted, and there isn't really a way to track who is watching the videos.
Another theory [or anti-theory] is that the content is just automated for ad revenue. While it's true that there are some notable channels with this very same content hosting multiple ads-per-video while getting millions of [likely botted] views, most of these videos have very few views and no ads. Often, channels will have only a single video uploaded.
Another anti-theory is that the videos are being provided for weird fetishists and aren't meant to be seen by kids at all; However, none of the videos are marked as "age-restricted", and are in fact available for viewing on the Youtube Kids app.
Then we have the pedophile ring theory: Some people theorize that a pedophile ring uses these videos to communicate in the comment sections. Most of these videos have gibberish comments. Usually strings of numbers and letters. Some suggest that it's just toddlers smashing away at the keyboard, but most people think the likelihood of that happening consistently on every video is pretty low. So, some think that it's some sort of code. People on Reddit are working at figuring out whether or not it means anything. Perhaps the comments are a way with screwing with Google's algorithms to make kids more likely to find the videos. Some users have pointed out that just searching gibberish letter combinations will often bring up these types of videos; So perhaps the comments are just bots randomly generating these combinations.
DEEPER IN THE RABBIT HOLE: I noted that some people think the gibberish in the comments may be code. As it turns out, some of them are Youtube video URLs. These videos seem to be almost exclusively young girls dancing in small outfits. Other users have found that some comments are simply dates and times, but when input into the Youtube search, more videos of young girls dancing or playing with toys pop up. They seem to be stock Webcam recordings; On a lot of webcams, if you upload a video without titling it, it will simply be titled "Webcam [Date/Time]". For instance: "Webcam 5/28/15 07:43", and other variations. Due to these types of videos, Redditers found that you can input dates and times in the Youtube search bar, and pretty much any modern date and time will just have hundreds, if not thousands, of videos of young children. Now, plenty of people are technologically illiterate, and a lot of webcam software comes with direct uploading capabilities. That would explain it.
Except for the views. These often candid (though plenty of videos are kids who are aware that the camera is on) videos can have tens of thousands of views. Once you get into this territory, the suggested videos seem to become more and more pedophile-based in nature. A lot of Russian language videos of young girls suggestively posing for the camera or bathing. A lot of it is under the tag "morning routine".
Circling back to #ElsaGate itself, eventually the two types of videos converge. Little girls in surreal "home movies" involving the same sort of themes as the AI-generated videos described above. One channel in particular focuses on a young Russian girl and a "Crazy Doctor". The videos feature simulated shots to the little girl's bottom, legs, and even tongue.
There are other videos, stop motion claymation style stuff that people have found to have messages hidden in the audio. These videos feature clay characters speaking gibberish, but when slowed down, they seem to advertising child pornography. Other people have found short videos that are uploaded but almost immediately deleted that show children, and are speculating that the videos are showing children that are for sale.
#ElsaGate is something more than just ad-farming. There's more than the surrealist cartoons. Youtube seems to be utilized by pedophiles buying, selling, and even producing child pornography. Perhaps even human trafficking operations. This rabbit hole goes deep.
Everything in this post is mined from time spent reading about ElsaGate on Reddit. I don't have the stomach to go clicking down that particular dark corner of Youtube. Some people have that mental fortitude and are doing good work in uncovering what's really going on with this whole thing. I don't recommend to anyone to go to Youtube looking for this shit.
Really? by what estimates do you exactly measure this absurd statement. Whoop'd do we have fancy electronic gadgets and comforts, so we must be better?
Last time I checked 1000 years ago civilization wasn't recovering from 2 world wars, Hitler, Stalin, pol pot and apartheid genocides. More people have died in the last 100 years to governmental violence and genocide(s) then did in 1000 AD (High Middle Ages)
Stop believing that stupid men in white coats, politicians, and progressiveness means shit all to society.
*Side Note* Why are people in the 21st century so fucking stupid. (It's rhetorical bitches, so don't answer)
I read an interesting article/interview about/with a hacker who brought down a pedophile ring online. The thing that struck me the most was that he basically said it's safer for pedophiles to use the "clearnet" than the deep web. He said that rings operate on all social media (including YouTube), but on the deep web, everything is likely to be watched by alphabet organizations. Due to its reputation as a criminal means, it's much more heavily monitored than the "normal" internet.
I read an interesting article/interview about/with a hacker who brought down a pedophile ring online. The thing that struck me the most was that he basically said it's safer for pedophiles to use the "clearnet" than the deep web. He said that rings operate on all social media (including YouTube), but on the deep web, everything is likely to be watched by alphabet organizations. Due to its reputation as a criminal means, it's much more heavily monitored than the "normal" internet.
If my appendix bursts or I get stung by the bee now I can just drive 10 minutes to the hospital and people fix me and then I go home.
That's better than just dying like would have happened prior to 100 years ago.
To each their own I guess. It's apples to oranges.
During that time the world was still not fully discovered. If I so choose to move my ass away from civilization and build a cabin in the woods I could without any concern and taxation if I did it intelligently enough.
Just as you could easily go to the hospital for those things, you could as easily get hit crossing the street from a car or get blown up in plane by a terrorist. (hyperbole on the second part so calm down) It depends on what you equate to being perceived better.
Regardless, this banter is just going to sidetrack this thread.
Right because uninhibited land already falls under modern governments sovereignty as government land by default. I'm sure they won't mind if I build a cabin on *their* land.
I feel like you're failing to grasp the scale of wilderness in many countries.
They don't have tax inspectors hiking hundreds of kilometers into the wilderness looking for random hermits living in shacks.
Yeah man, it's scary shit. Most parents allow their children on these tablets without all that much supervision. It isn't hard to stumble upon any of this shit on youtube. The crazier shit is they aren't doing a thing about it, it seems.
The worst part is his mom just shov s it in his face and leaves him in his room by himself with it for hours.
He’s watching all this shit still at her house, he doesn’t even ask for his iPad at my house , he doesn’t even want it here because I actually spend time with him.
I’ve told her about this shit and she’s to stupid to notice it.
He can’t go ten minutes with her without his iPad and freaking out but can go whole week with me without even thinking about it.
I told her not to buy him one when she was hammering me to buy one for him. I said no he was too young and she did anyway.
She got it for him For Christmas last year, he had just turned 3
The worst part is his mom just shov s it in his face and leaves him in his room by himself with it for hours.
He’s watching all this shit still at her house, he doesn’t even ask for his iPad at my house , he doesn’t even want it here because I actually spend time with him.
I’ve told her about this shit and she’s to stupid to notice it.
He can’t go ten minutes with her without his iPad and freaking out but can go whole week with me without even thinking about it.
I told her not to buy him one when she was hammering me to buy one for him. I said no he was too young and she did anyway.
She got it for him For Christmas last year, he had just turned 3
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