Wal-Mart to raise age to purchase firearm to 21

[floivanus]

Voting sure . . . making teen pregnancy illegal is a crazy idea . . . just like bumping the driving age to 21. Some 16 year-olds can hand driving and others can't . . . even at 21 or older.

And some; actually most, 18 year olds can own, shoot and be responsible with a long gun. Just because a few people cannot be responsible doesn’t mean we need to punish the masses. Teen pregnancy leads to single motherhood more often than not, raise the age of consent to 21 and that no longer happens right?

Let’s put blow-n-goes in all vehicles that are out there as well, don’t want drunk drivers on the road

 

[cincymma79]

Private company
Who cares

 

[heloder]

Society is constantly improving by every metric that matters, despite the histrionic outbursts about the downfall of civilization (which has been used to slow progress at every point in history to uphold the status quo).

The Internet porn effect.

 

[spamking]

Not really. If you can't be trusted to make good decisions for yourself you can't be trusted to shape the character of a child.

I agree . . . but to make it ILLEGAL? That's just stupid.

 

[spamking]

And some; actually most, 18 year olds can own, shoot and be responsible with a long gun.

Highly debatable depending on where they live IMO. But I agree, many kids 18 or under responsibly handle a rifle every year to hunt, etc.

Just because a few people cannot be responsible doesn’t mean we need to punish the masses.

I agree.

Teen pregnancy leads to single motherhood more often than not, raise the age of consent to 21 and that no longer happens right?

Based on what? How'd consent get brought into this discussion?

Let’s put blow-n-goes in all vehicles that are out there as well, don’t want drunk drivers on the road

Nope . . . we don't. But isn't this punishing the masses?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I agree . . . but to make it ILLEGAL? That's just stupid.

Why? It's simple logic really.

 

[spamking]

Why? It's simple logic really.

What are we arguing about? And why?

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

What are we arguing about? And why?

Nothing without you putting forth some arguments.

To stem the tide of boredom?

 

[spamking]

Nothing without you putting forth some arguments.

To stem the tide of boredom?

Why do we need to make sex before 21 illegal and how exactly will that be enforced?

I can't believe I'm asking this question . . . . I got married at 21 and my wife was 20 . . . 25 years and counting.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Why do we need to make sex before 21 illegal and how exactly will that be enforced?

I can't believe I'm asking this question . . . . I got married at 21 and my wife was 20 . . . 25 years and counting.

Not sex. Procreation. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[spamking]

Not sex. Procreation. Sorry for the confusion.

I thought I saw someone mention making 21 the age of consent . . . which implies no sex until 21 or older.

Regardless, while I agree teenage pregnancy is an issue to hold a 20 or 21 year-old to the same standard as a teen sounds a little harsh.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I thought I saw someone mention making 21 the age of consent . . . which implies no sex until 21 or older.

Regardless, while I agree teenage pregnancy is an issue to hold a 20 or 21 year-old to the same standard as a teen sounds a little harsh.

Yeah, wasn't me though.

All I'm saying is raising a kid requires far more responsibility and can be far more damaging than gun ownership. So if 21 is good enough for guns and drinking then it sure as shit is good enough for child-rearing. Sounds like common sense to me.

 

[vindaloo]

i'd like to see 25 become the new adult age, since this is the age when the brain is supposed to be fully developed by

 

[jefferz]

I don't want to disparage people who are in the military but my understanding is unless you're infantry or in a combat unit post basic most military guys, if they're like desk jockeys or something similar, rarely if ever have to re-qualify on their firearms.

Like, there was a photo of an Army colonel or Major making the rounds about a year ago when he went through re-qualifying on the Berretta and he was holding the damn gun so close to his face in a picture that if he pulled the trigger the back of the slide would have smashed into his right eye socket and blinded him in that eye.

And the ranking system is pretty cool sounding to civilians but doesn't mean much. Like, you hear "he achieved expert in basic" for the Texas shooter and layman are like "wow, he must be a good shot" when in reality all he scored in basic was like 20 of 25 in the shooting portion.

I live near an Air Force base and I get a lot of guys asking to deer hunt. I’ll go walk with them because they’re usually under manned.
I’m always amazed at the amount of people that couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn.

 

[Gregolian]

I live near an Air Force base and I get a lot of guys asking to deer hunt. I’ll go walk with them because they’re usually under manned.
I’m always amazed at the amount of people that couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn.

Some from inside said barn.

 

[RockstarChris]

Just think, a 20 year old can come home after doing a 2 year tour in the middle east fighting terrorists and now he cant even go buy a shotgun at a local store.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

However, you're also completely correct. Adam Lanza supposedly was diagnosed with severe mental health issues that were ignored by his mother. His mother was directly responsible for that tragedy, so what could be learned from that? That outside intervention is required if family members refuse to treat a mentally ill person?

Because that shit happens all the time. For every drug addict out there, there's usually an enabler mother in the background involved (or other family member like grand parent) that allowed and sometimes facilitated the situation to disintegrate.

From what I read Lanza was diagnosed with Aspergers and the same people that diagnosed him said there were no indicators that he would commit a crime like that.

On the question of Lanza's state of mind, the report noted "significant mental health issues that affected his ability to live a normal life and to interact with others, even those to whom he should have been close... What contribution this made to the shootings, if any, is unknown as those mental health professionals who saw him did not see anything that would have predicted his future behavior."
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There was that unconfirmed statement where someone claims to have heard him threaten to kill his mom and the kids way back in 08 and said that his mom was scared because Lanza had an assault rifle, but they didn't own the AR until 2010 - so we can throw that out.

 

[spamking]

Yeah, wasn't me though.

All I'm saying is raising a kid requires far more responsibility and can be far more damaging than gun ownership. So if 21 is good enough for guns and drinking then it sure as shit is good enough for child-rearing. Sounds like common sense to me.

Regardless . . . 18 for this, 21 for that . . . none of it makes sense.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

Regardless . . . 18 for this, 21 for that . . . none of it makes sense.

Clearly.

 

[jamel]

Can die for your country but cant drink a beer or buy a gun... Gotdamn what a time to be alive.