Hi there, my friend is 29 and he wants to start training mma. Do you guys think he is too old to start it ? are there known fighters who started mma around this age ? Or he should totally drop it ?
Thanks
Go to the training sections. It's
way better to ask people who
actually train questions about
anything related to training than a bunch of people who parrot things they've heard in passing watching MMA events and reading news articles.
The fact that so many people have put so much importance on "you'll never be a top-15 fighter unless it's a shitty division, but go ahead" is a testament to how little these people know. Yeah, that's what being a man is about... not following your dream and accepting a mediocre version of it if you
do do it. Along with stuff like "if they come from an amateur wrestling background, then yeah", which's just such bullshit I'm not even gonna go into it. You don't have to have a six pack all your life to be able to do something athletic at a high level; it's just moronic to think otherwise.
Most people defeat themselves before they're ever defeated by anyone else, and that's the kind of mentality that a lot of these people have.
Nobita Naito didn't even
start training until he was 23 (no martial arts background, no Kendo, no lifting weights,
nothing), and he didn't make his pro debut until he was 28, and he's currently the top strawweight in the world (and, contrary to popular belief associated with the ignorance surrounding the smaller divisions, strawweight is a deceptively deep weight class and the talent at the top of the division is
extremely legit and on par with many other divisions.)
Lyle Beerbohm didn't start training until he was 25 (he was a degenerate gangster before that, not really an athletic lifestyle like people preach about, with the exception of maybe being on the freshmen football team before dropping out of high school) and didn't make his pro debut until he was 27, and he got to be a top-20 lightweight, fought Shinya Aoki and Pat Healy, and beat fighters legends of this sport like Duane Ludwig, Vitor Shaolin and Marcus Aurelio.
Casey Suire didn't start training until he was in his 30s, and he didn't make his debut until he was 34. And before he died, he complied a respectable 6-2 record (and I think he had some boxing matches outside of his 1-0 Boxrec profile), and he was still improving even at 40. He might've wrestled before that in his youth, but he wasn't so physically active in the time between his wrestling and his shootfighting training that that really was the key factor.
Wasn't there a Crossfit champion that was an out-of-shape, non-athletic-lifestyle guy in his late-20's/early-30's before he started Crossfitting?
There're people who go from a Jiu-Jitsu white belt to a black belt in, like, 5 years just because they train
so much and are
so dedicated to learning. You can have that quality regardless of your age, and if you're a good grappler you have a GREAT chance at having success in this sport.
Fighting isn't Football or Hockey. It's not something you have to be involved in in a segmented hierarchy from the time you're 10 and work your way up through the educational leagues all your life for a chance to get well-known enough for a big team to contract you. You can do it any time you want, and if your heart's in it, you have as good a chance to take it to a high level as anyone else. If your heart's
really in it, you can take anything
way further than any of your detractors would've ever thought you could.
If you're, like, 50 that's another story, but being that old is the exception to anything, and 29 isn't.
Shit, you can still join the army and learn to kill people at 35 if you lived an obese sedentary lifestyle for the previous 34 years. You can learn to be a high-level
killer, but learning to fight is out of the question...
The greatest talent anyone can have is a never-say-die attitude. Even Duane Ludwig-- remember, TJ Dillashaw's trainer?-- has said that
that is more important than anything vague like "athleticism" or "fighting talent", and that quality is what separated TJ from the rest of the TAM guys. Miguel Torres has said the same thing.