Social There were roughly 12 million Indians living in America when Europeans arrived, by 1900 there was just 237,000. How is that not a genocide?

[Seahawks Fan]

Seriously of all the groups in America who claim victimhood, Native Americans have arguably the strongest case. They were indisputably the victims of genocide which neither history nor the American government is willing to acknowledge. The genocide of the Native Americans was probably the most persistent and effective eradication of any ethnic group in world history, and the fact that there are any living Native Americans at all is a miracle. There isn't a reparations package big enough to compensate for what was done to these people. At this point I would just settle for the truth being told. Every U.S. History textbook should have a chapter entitled "The Genocide of The Native Americans". No more pussyfooting around, THERE WAS A GENOCIDE!

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Colonisation was genocidal in general if we're being honest.

 

[Two Crows]

Of course it was genocide. That's how the world worked before the modern age.

"Most persistent and effective" in world history? No, it took centuries to get that far. Modern (20th century and forward) Europeans and Africans are far more efficient. Possibly others, but I'm not informed enough of Asian activities to comment.

Edit: Quick history check (at least according to Google, take it with a grain of salt) make the Ottoman Empire look like the potential kings of genocide.

Edit II: The latest woke estimates put the North Americans at over 60 million in 1492, so it was over 10% of the entire planet!!! Clearly the most dangerous people in history! Lol.

European colonization of the Americas killed 10 percent of world population and caused global cooling

The “Great Dying” of Indigenous populations in the Americas after the arrival of Europeans is the largest human mortality event in proportion to the global population, putting it second in absolute terms only to World War II. The devastation of the population also caused a drop in atmospheric...

theworld.org

 

[Osculater]

Damn you germs!

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

I can see the argument for it, but the time frame is probably the biggest issue. You're talking about a 400 year period. Genocides usually have a much shorter time frame. The holocaust for example was about 5 years.

 

[Jesus X]

There is 5 million native americans today that 237 k number sounds low.

 

[Ballsaque]

Seriously of all the groups in America who claim victimhood, Native Americans have arguably the strongest case. They were indisputably the victims of genocide which neither history nor the American government is willing to acknowledge. The genocide of the Native Americans was probably the most persistent and effective eradication of any ethnic group in world history, and the fact that there are any living Native Americans at all is a miracle. There isn't a reparations package big enough to compensate for what was done to these people. At this point I would just settle for the truth being told. Every U.S. History textbook should have a chapter entitled "The Genocide of The Native Americans". No more pussyfooting around, there WAS A GENOCIDE!

Who says it was not?...

 

[Anewt]

When more are killed by diseases its pretty hard for me to call genocide.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Yes, the Native Americans got exterminated and the few survivors were forced to live on dingy reservations.

The worst was when they would take trains and shoot the Buffalo - and let them rot, because the Indians relied on them for food and clothing. Sad. Buffalo used to roam the great plains freely, now they are almost gone.

 

[Blayt7hh]

pretty sure it is recognized as a genocide. Just one we dont talk about much

 

[fedorthegoat777]

Clash of cultures, only the strong survive. Only one way of life will prevail. Now the Native American culture is the same as the European culture.

Just like when the Muslim culture gets imported to Europe, only one culture will be left at the end.

 

[Scerpi]

There is 5 million native americans today that 237 k number sounds low.

Someone's lying with extreme hyberbole to make a point?

Shocking

American Indians and Alaska Natives - By the Numbers

www.acf.hhs.gov

There are 5.2 million American Indians and Alaska Natives making up approximately 2 percent of the U.S. population.
There are 14 states with more than 100,000 American Indian or Alaska Native residents. These states are California, Oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, Washington, New York, North Carolina, Florida, Alaska, Michigan, Oregon, Colorado and Minnesota.

 

[Lord_Impaler]

Seriously of all the groups in America who claim victimhood, Native Americans have arguably the strongest case. They were indisputably the victims of genocide which neither history nor the American government is willing to acknowledge. The genocide of the Native Americans was probably the most persistent and effective eradication of any ethnic group in world history, and the fact that there are any living Native Americans at all is a miracle. There isn't a reparations package big enough to compensate for what was done to these people. At this point I would just settle for the truth being told. Every U.S. History textbook should have a chapter entitled "The Genocide of The Native Americans". No more pussyfooting around, there WAS A GENOCIDE!

Can you post the source that claims there are 237k American Indians left?

 

[Rob Battisti]

Damn you germs!

This OP knows literally nothing about history.

90-95% were killed due to disease.

You think the handful of new comers killed 6 million?

 

[Bunk Moreland]

How can you have genocide if the word wasn’t around till 1944 and not codified till 1946.

 

[jamel]

Yeah sending your sick and poor to an uncharted country was an accident not something done from evil intentions… like smallpox blankets that came from the same sick and poor people.

Colonization was just a big misunderstanding and not a bunch of illegal aliens fleeing religious persecution.

It’s different!

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Someone's lying with extreme hyberbole to make a point?

Shocking

American Indians and Alaska Natives - By the Numbers

www.acf.hhs.gov

There are 5.2 million American Indians and Alaska Natives making up approximately 2 percent of the U.S. population.
There are 14 states with more than 100,000 American Indian or Alaska Native residents. These states are California, Oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, New Mexico, Washington, New York, North Carolina, Florida, Alaska, Michigan, Oregon, Colorado and Minnesota.

Don’t forget the Pequot and Mohegan “Indian” living a rich life in Connecticut.

 

[jx820]

This may be the most thoroughly shit on thread in my entire time on sherdog. Congrats, that's some kind of accomplishment.

 

[Richmma80]

The native americans also genocided each other. There's been several ice ages in which Asiatic people crossed to the Americas and each time, when they came across one another, more likely than not, they genocided and enslaved and sometime cannibalised the losing side. Original natives no longer exist. The ones we see today are descendants of the natives that won the war against the previous natives who also won the war against the prior natives, etc...

 

[4daLuLZ]

They moved to India ?
Hence the 1.5 billion population ?