Senate votes today to allow ISPs to sell customer browsing history to advertisers

[Rjay]

Use a reputable VPN and all these privacy issues go away.

 

[Kemeticsoul]

Time to heat up the tar and cut open some pillows.

Lots of spongebob, dahahahahahahaha.

 

[lsa]

Use a reputable VPN and all these privacy issues go away.

Cyber Ghost Vpn is pretty cheap and very stable/fast

 

[method115]

Makes me wonder if it'll drive internet prices down. You'll need more customers on internet to sell the data so it could make ISP's charge less to attract more customers.

 

[Higus]

Makes me wonder if it'll drive internet prices down. You'll need more customers on internet to sell the data so it could make ISP's charge less to attract more customers.

not likely, most places don't have more than 1 or 2 ISP options and internet is basically a necessary utility at this point. They have all the cards, there's no incentive to lower the price. This is just a new revenue stream for them.

 

[method115]

not likely, most places don't have more than 1 or 2 ISP options and internet is basically a necessary utility at this point. They have all the cards, there's no incentive to lower the price. This is just a new revenue stream for them.

Yea I doubt it as well.

 

[neverwas]

oh god! everybody is gonna find out about my brazillian tranny porn fetish.

 

[neverwas]

i mean,if i had one.

 

[weich]

The VPN will encrypt the tunnel into the network, but once you're inside the network, the network can still log your activity. If you have Verizon or Comcast, they may have access to those logs, no?

The ISP at the end point would be the one to log that traffic. Depending on the setup that could be useless to anyone.

The traffic your local ISP will have is much more valuable. I'd say it's even more valuable than what Facebook can get.

 

[sub_thug]

The ISP at the end point would be the one to log that traffic. Depending on the setup that could be useless to anyone.

The traffic your local ISP will have is much more valuable. I'd say it's even more valuable than what Facebook can get.

Yeah, but a VPN connection won't make an ounce of difference in whether or not those local logs at the ISP are useful, right? I totally get why those unencrypted logs would be desired though. That would be gold for any targeted advertisement. I bet law enforcement would want those records too. With a standard deviation model like Splunk uses for its behavioral analytics, you could probably baseline when someone is performing criminal activity. The civil liberties ramifications are horrifying though.

 

[no fat chicks]

I mostly do my porn searches at the local library, so I should be fine

 

[Fatchops]

Yeah, but a VPN connection won't make an ounce of difference in whether or not those local logs at the ISP are useful, right? I totally get why those unencrypted logs would be desired though. That would be gold for any targeted advertisement. I bet law enforcement would want those records too. With a standard deviation model like Splunk uses for its behavioral analytics, you could probably baseline when someone is performing criminal activity. The civil liberties ramifications are horrifying though.

If you are using a VPN, the ISP will just see X amount of encrypted traffic to and from the VPN providers IP address. It would render your browsing history useless, at least as far as selling it to marketers.
As to whether or not the VPN provider keeps logs, well, lets just say there is a cottage industry of VPN providers who provide such services.

https://torrentfreak.com/vpn-services-anonymous-review-2017-170304/

 

[Guestx]

The VPN will encrypt the tunnel into the network, but once you're inside the network, the network can still log your activity. If you have Verizon or Comcast, they may have access to those logs, no?

Well if you have an encrypted connection between your computer and the VPN server then all traffic between those two machines is encrypted. So your ISP is able to see that communication is taking place, but it can't tell what that communication is exactly. It just sees a stream of encrypted data going back and forth.

It's not much different between tunneling into a corporate VPN server. If you work for, say, US Bank and you're working from home over VPN, then your ISP is not able to read the traffic between your computer and the US Bank VPN server. It just knows that communication is taking place.

 

[Pwent]

are they gonna tailor their marketing around internet searches? like people gonna get flyers and popups regarding cheap prices on shemale "massage therapy"?

asking for a friend

 

[weich]

are they gonna tailor their marketing around internet searches? like people gonna get flyers and popups regarding cheap prices on shemale "massage therapy"?

asking for a friend

That will probably happen, but I don't think it will only impact your online ads. It will almost assuredly impact the mailers you receive, and I could see bigger providers like Time Warner and Comcast using this to custom tailor TV advertising to you as well.

They will be able to create a scary profile of you and anyone who lives inside your house. One company has developed a data miner that goes to facebook and scrubs information. That data is fed to an alogrithm, and once a FB user has liked 300 items the algorithm can predict your future decisions better than you can. Imagine what will happen when you no longer have to like anything, all of your traffic will be analyzed and combined with real world data and sold off. Essentially everything you do will be known by your ISP and anyone they sell to.

One of the arguments I've heard in favor of this bill is that it levels the playing field between ISPs and mobile carriers. So rather than choosing to restrict mobile carriers they are going to allow ISPs to gather and sell the same info.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

So people will know I like to pump off to chubby girls with huge boobs once in awhile.


Eh

 

[Cravat]

Let the market decide whether or not we should have a right to privacy.

 

[Guestx]

Let the market decide whether or not we should have a right to privacy.

With the way that so many people clearly don't care about their privacy, I can't say I trust the market in this situation.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

I wonder if a VPN is used it's still possible.

It depends on who provides your VPN service. Some won't cave to corporations or the IS government. Some do though.

 

[Francis Rossi]

Who voted Ferengi into office then?